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26 Mar 2020, 5:39 pm
EzraS wrote:
I hope so. I still have the same feeling I had a month ago. That looking back it will turn out that there was a huge overreaction to this thing.
I have my "Doom and Gloom" archive to refer to and post segments of when this is all over.
That will be fun.
Darmok wrote:
[i]Chinese media caught erasing history and 'Wuhan virus' from reports
China’s Global Times changes ‘Wuhan pneumonia’ to ‘novel coronavirus-related pneumonia’ in January article
China’s Global Times changes ‘Wuhan pneumonia’ to ‘novel coronavirus-related pneumonia’ in January article
Al la 1984.
What else would you expect from the CCP?
26 Mar 2020, 5:43 pm
Pepe wrote:
jimmy m wrote:
PLACING THE COVID19 CORONAVIRUS IN THE PROPER PERSPECTIVE
I read the following article by Rich Kozlovich today published in Paradigms and Demographics
Coronavirus in Perspective, Part III
It tried to place the current COVID19 pandemic in relationship with other biological threats.
We keep hearing how amazingly dangerous, and how infectious this version of coronavirus is, which there are 40 of them, with estimates and predictions that are frightening the public to the point of hysteria. Hysteria that’s created a new affliction called moronavirus!
I read the following article by Rich Kozlovich today published in Paradigms and Demographics
Coronavirus in Perspective, Part III
It tried to place the current COVID19 pandemic in relationship with other biological threats.
We keep hearing how amazingly dangerous, and how infectious this version of coronavirus is, which there are 40 of them, with estimates and predictions that are frightening the public to the point of hysteria. Hysteria that’s created a new affliction called moronavirus!
The hysteria is *almost* as bad as the Climate Change panic!
And very similar. My guess is most of the people saying millions will die are the same ones saying the world is coming to an end in ten years. And are calling Rich Kozlovich a Covid Denier.
Also like with climate change panic there is a lot of politics involved. Probably many of those wanting socialism are hoping prolonged Covid shutdowns will make it happen. Hoping prolonged shutdowns will bring capitalism to its knees.
26 Mar 2020, 5:46 pm
Darmok wrote:
[i]Imperial College scientist who predicted 500K coronavirus deaths in UK revises to 20K or fewer
Boy is *his* face red.
26 Mar 2020, 5:50 pm
26 Mar 2020, 5:52 pm
EzraS wrote:
Pepe wrote:
The hysteria is *almost* as bad as the Climate Change panic!
And very similar. My guess is most of the people saying millions will die are the same ones saying the world is coming to an end in ten years. And are calling Rich Kozlovich a Covid Denier.
Also like with climate change panic there is a lot of politics involved. Probably many of those wanting socialism are hoping prolonged Covid shutdowns will make it happen. Hoping prolonged shutdowns will bring capitalism to its knees.
Yep,
I have seen this sort of talk.
I'm putting *that* nonsense in a separate archive.
You have to wonder what is wrong with these extremists.
Thankfully, I find deviant/pathological mindsets "verrrry interestink".
26 Mar 2020, 5:55 pm
Pepe wrote:
Darmok wrote:
[i]Imperial College scientist who predicted 500K coronavirus deaths in UK revises to 20K or fewer
Boy is *his* face red.
Going both ways since it is at 23,963 deaths right now. Probably 100k deaths is more realistic. But that is still 500k less deaths than caused by the common flu.
26 Mar 2020, 5:57 pm
EzraS wrote:
Pepe wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
There are still too many relatively healthy people getting in serious and critical condition.
If we let this run unbridled, there would be many more deaths and hospitalizations.
If we let this run unbridled, there would be many more deaths and hospitalizations.
Action, yes.
Panic, no.
The way to practically combat it is for at risk people to isolate. Which has always been the practical and effective method of prevention regarding virus deaths.
Sounds like a no brainer.
But some people have no brains.
A case in point of what happened in Italy.
One mayor literally was threatening people with putting a flamethrower through the houses of recalcitrants.
"The is no cure for 'stupid.'"
26 Mar 2020, 5:59 pm
26 Mar 2020, 5:59 pm
EzraS wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Darmok wrote:
[i]Imperial College scientist who predicted 500K coronavirus deaths in UK revises to 20K or fewer
Boy is *his* face red.
Going both ways since it is at 23,963 deaths right now. Probably 100k deaths is more realistic. But that is still 500k less deaths than caused by the common flu.
Bull-dust.
He was talking about the UK, not the entire world.
Re-read.
26 Mar 2020, 6:02 pm
Darmok wrote:
EzraS wrote:
The way to practically combat it is for at-risk people to isolate.
But, how will that advance world socialism and enrich my circle of friends?
It won't,
Hence Marxists licking bus and train steadying handles before the world can get it's shite together. <joke>
kraftiekortie wrote:
There are too many otherwise healthy people getting in serious/critical condition. That’s a fact.
One is too many.
Still alive I see.
Feeling better?
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26 Mar 2020, 6:03 pm
26 Mar 2020, 6:10 pm
blooiejagwa wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Pepe wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Someone here thought I was stupid for thinking hospitals were getting overloaded by people coming in for testing.
Aren't their faces red now.
Nah, too much ego.
Pepe wrote:
EzraS wrote:
I would like to see the number of cases reach the millions since in all likelihood it actually is. Then it will be discovered that the percentage of deaths from COVID-19 is considerably lower than it looks right now. And the world can ease down from red alert panic mode.
I think many people might be finally realising that.
I hope so. I still have the same feeling I had a month ago. That looking back it will turn out that there was a huge overreaction to this thing.
You're wrong. The overreaction/protective measures now is what's preventing more of a spike in cases and decreasing the length of time necessary long term. The numbers show that.
I mean that's been repeated countless times. We know it is mild for most and it will taper off. It tapers off BECAUSE we initially overreact and follow precautions-- not despite it.
Every country who managed to contain the issue in the end did it because they 'overreacted' - a necessary step.
You can contract it but die of compromised immunity of something else or complications from it.
If the money issue is getting at people maybe they should have shown the same anger when government gives many billions yearly to fund wars that aren't even to do with them and/or are supporting military action illegal by international law
We are talking about panic and hysteria = bad.
Not rational caution when dealing with the unknown.
Maybe that is just me.
26 Mar 2020, 6:11 pm
26 Mar 2020, 6:15 pm
Syd wrote:
Just a friendly reminder, when gauging the current threat level, it's best to listen to the DOCTORS who are actually on the front lines and seeing the situation first-hand.
The same guys who said that face masks didn't help, because their real agenda was to stop people panic buying them so there would be more for the health workers?
Never forget.
We are dealing with neurotypicals who have no problem with lying on a grand scale.
We do have to think for ourselves, also.
26 Mar 2020, 6:18 pm
kraftiekortie wrote:
If we allowed this thing to run amok, we would have been in extremely deep trouble.
We did the right thing with the extreme measures.
It IS the unknown. This is a virus like no other.
We did the right thing with the extreme measures.
It IS the unknown. This is a virus like no other.
Am I having trouble getting the message across?
Rational action good.
Panic bad.
Hysteria, optional.
To be clear:
I am in favour of considered, rational government action.
All good now?
26 Mar 2020, 6:21 pm
Pepe wrote:
Syd wrote:
Just a friendly reminder, when gauging the current threat level, it's best to listen to the DOCTORS who are actually on the front lines and seeing the situation first-hand.
The same guys who said that face masks didn't help, because their real agenda was to stop people panic buying them so there would be more for the health workers?
Never forget.
We are dealing with neurotypicals who have no problem with lying on a grand scale.
We do have to think for ourselves, also.
