Emergence of a Deadly Coronavirus

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You know I empathise Ez, and I have high-risk family members in isolation too. I understand what you are trying to say.

I see your logic and your reasonable thought. I just don't understand how all the immunocompromised people of the world could legitimately leave work, stay home, isolate for an unknown number of months, while everyone else carries on spreading the virus around this planet. In essence, it would be like saying that the vulnerable population (hundreds of millions) would just disappear from society. I sincerely doubt they would get media attention or sympathy, and they would be fired from their jobs, most likely without government support or advocacy. It would be terribly difficult to sweep these people under the rug and cross our fingers that they can come out again one day. I know that isn't your intention to be harsh like that, and I see that there's no easy solution in this mess. I just felt like commenting. I'm glad you are doing well and taking good precautions in the meantime.

This is why my nephew was screened. He knew he couldn't fly without a test, for ethical reasons if not the law.

He was positive. Flying or interacting with the public when you are a known risk is very irresponsible. I've read about people being fined or even imprisoned in other countries for endangering others.

If someone is going to talk about third world hellholes, I sure as hell am going to react. And it was completely in response to what was said prior as well not just that post - re: economy. In perspective, when economy suffers for legitimate reasons, people act affronted, but when this is going on they don't give a damn, can't have it both ways and not be called out for hypocrisy.

EzraS I linked the article earlier
https://nationalpost.com/health/how-tai ... life-go-on

Sorry.
This thread is on "fire" and it is hard to cope with all the traffic flow.
I might start to panic and as a result.

So the better solution is for billions to stay prisoners in their homes for months on end, loose their jobs and millions of business to go bankrupt? How could that possibly help? Do you think those at risk are going to benefit more from that? What is going to happen to me when my parents become totally destitute? Do you think I will be better off when that happens?

What will happen to all children and dependents when their parents and caregivers become destitute?

In fact I should have been flagged.

So the better solution is for billions to stay prisoners in their homes for months on end, loose their jobs and millions of business to go bankrupt? How could that possibly help? Do you think those at risk are going to benefit more from that? What is going to happen to me when my parents become totally destitute? Do you think I will be better off when that happens?

What will happen to all children and dependents when their parents and caregivers become destitute?

Just a friendly reminder, when gauging the current threat level, it's best to listen to the DOCTORS who are actually on the front lines and seeing the situation first-hand.

The people who are going to suffer the most are the poor, the struggling working class, the minorities, the immigrants, the refugees etc, not the tyrants.

We probably can’t open up our nation by Easter....but let’s hope the curve is flattened by Easter.

@pepe If they don't take it down (or whatever happens here, from flagging), just PM me, and I'll know what you want deleted, what is off topic,
to ease off or what exactly is wrong from an outsider's view.
Going forward do that as I'm guessing mods are easygoing. Still haven't had a message from them.

Nope. You don't understand the value of time. Read https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56.

With this virus, what the lockdown has achieved is we bought time. Rapid testing is a reality. Now we just need to mass produce rapid testing kits. The lockdown also gave us time to discover that hydroxychloroquine plus azythromycin work alright. The lockdown gave us time for the masks and respirators. The lockdown gave us time to move the homeless into proper accomodations. The lockdown taught everyone about social distancing, about how to handle packages, about frequent hand washing, about wearing masks in unventilated areas and in public transportation.

The lockdown gave us time to plan for the re-start of the work force. We can send recovered people back to work. They have the immunity. We can send young people back to work, but with a condition: frequent testing. Younger people of course are careless, but precisely because they are careless, many of them will get infected, and two weeks after their infection, they will contribute to herd immunity.

The early measures in Taiwan gave it time to develop rapid testing kit. In the world there are now several versions of rapid testing kits available. What's going to allow people to go back to work is not a cure, is not a vaccine, but rapid testing. We need time to mass produce rapid testing kits. Now we are pretty sure that in another month, tops 1.5 months, rapid testing kits will be enough to allow some decent size of people to return to work. Now it's about how to time the mass production of rapid testing kits with the number of people returning to work. We need to be smart in re-introducing the work force in phases, so that we have enough test kits to test everyone on a frequent basis.

To say it more simply:
- lockdown = fighting in the dark, you don't know who are at risk --> very wasteful in resources
- rapid testing = targeted fighting, you know precisely who are at risk --> very little waste of resources

But you have to pause to think, what has allowed us to get to the stage of achieving rapid testing? Yep, it's the lockdown. The lockdown bought us time. It's was scientific problem, and it needed a scientific solution. Whenever people are faced with major issues, the first thing is to buy time. With time, you can assemble your team. Once you have a team, you have brains to help you solve problems. Time is essential.

We don't want a repeat of the situation in Italy, where doctors have to decide who live and who die. This virus will be defeated by the people making rapid testing kits.