Emergence of a Deadly Coronavirus

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27 Mar 2020, 2:01 am

There are five things needed to stop the rise in infection
1. close international borders
2. impose self-isolation on those with flu like symptoms
3 practice hygiene - washing hands regularly and sanitizer
4. practice social distance
5. make test kits widely available

This was all that was needed not 100,000 posts :roll:

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27 Mar 2020, 2:16 am

Dr. Anthony Fauci in the New England Journal of Medicine:

This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387

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27 Mar 2020, 2:18 am

Context: Australia

-Finally, finally, finally, thermal scanning at Australian airports. :roll:

-No "Micky Mouse" self-quarantine any longer.
Enforced quarantine for those disembarking from ships.

-2/3 infections as a result of people coming into the country.

-Ruby Princess cruise ship may be responsible for 10% of infections.

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-Megachurches in Korea caused a spike in infections.

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27 Mar 2020, 2:39 am

http://www.rfi.fr/en/france/20200325-fr ... y-reported

In France they are generally, ( as in the UK and several other countries ) only testing people who are hospitalised, and it seems that unusual numbers of people have been dying in care homes where Covid 19 symptoms reported in many residents ... but these deaths not being tested post-mortem for coronavirus ( unlike in Italy ), and so they are not appearing in official statistics.

I hate this sort of poor data situation. It's everywhere right now.

PS. Apparently they don't test for coronavirus postmortem in Germany either ...

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27 Mar 2020, 2:48 am

Quote:

‘Patient zero’ at Wuhan market identified
“Patient zero” at the Wuhan seafood market central to the coronavirus outbreak has been identified as a 57-year-old seafood merchant.

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Ebola drug to treat COVID-19

A drug used to treat ebola will be used to treat COVID-19 patients in a clinical trial in Australia and a TB vaccine will be trialled to protect healt...

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27 Mar 2020, 3:07 am

The crucial point int the NEMJ article just posted by Darmok
Community spread in the United States could require a shift from containment to mitigation strategies such as social distancing in order to reduce transmission. Such strategies could include isolating ill persons (including voluntary isolation at home), school closures, and telecommuting where possible.

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27 Mar 2020, 3:15 am

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Chinese-backed company's mission to source Australian medical supplies

As the coronavirus took hold in Wuhan earlier this year, staff from the Chinese government-backed global property giant Greenland Group were instructed to put their normal work on hold and source bulk supplies of essential medical items to ship back to China.

A whistleblower from the company has told the Herald it was a worldwide Greenland effort - and the Sydney office was no different, sourcing bulk supplies of surgical masks, thermometers, antibacterial wipes, hand sanitisers, gloves and Panadol for shipping.

The company even posted its efforts of packing pallets in the company’s Sydney headquarters on social media.

"Basically all employees, the majority of whom are Chinese, were asked to source whatever medical supplies they could," one company insider told the Herald. This exercise went on for weeks through January and February, he said. https://www.smh.com.au/national/chinese ... 54du8.html

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27 Mar 2020, 3:17 am

Pepe wrote:

‘Patient zero’ at Wuhan market identified
“Patient zero” at the Wuhan seafood market central to the coronavirus outbreak has been identified as a 57-year-old seafood merchant.

Well, maybe, but I'm pretty sure he got it from Agnes.

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27 Mar 2020, 3:23 am

Darmok wrote:

EzraS wrote:

There is one thing I feel certain of. There are politicians, media outlets and reporters and even doctors/experts who hate and fear Trump so much, they would say just about anything to try keeping him from being reelected. Probably in their minds Trump getting reelected is worse than unnecessary long term massive unemployment.

Inaccurate Virus Models Are Panicking Officials Into Ill-Advised Lockdowns
How a handful of Democratic activists created alarming, but bogus data sets to scare local and state officials into making rash, economy-killing mandates.

As U.S. state and local officials halt the economy and quarantine their communities over the Wuhan virus crisis, one would hope our leaders were making such major decisions based on well-sourced data and statistical analysis. That is not the case.

A scan of statements made by media, state governors, local leaders, county judges, and more show many relying on the same source, an online mapping tool called COVID Act Now. The website says it is “built to enable political leaders to quickly make decisions in their Coronavirus response informed by best available data and modeling.”

An interactive map provides users a catastrophic forecast for each state, should they wait to implement COVID Act Now’s suggested strict measures to “flatten the curve.” But a closer look at how many of COVID Act Now’s predictions have already fallen short, and how they became a ubiquitous resource across the country overnight, suggests something more sinister.

[A long list of officials who have cited and acted on this group's data are given]

So why is the organization or seemingly innocent online mapping tool using inaccurate algorithms to scaremonger leaders into tanking the economy? Politics, of course.

Founders of the site include Democratic Rep. Jonathan Kreiss-Tomkins and three Silicon Valley tech workers and Democratic activists — Zachary Rosen, Max Henderson, and Igor Kofman — who are all also donors to various Democratic campaigns and political organizations since 2016. Henderson and Kofman donated to the Hillary Clinton campaign in 2016, while Rosen donated to the Democratic National Committee, recently resigned Democratic Rep. Katie Hill, and other Democratic candidates. Prior to building the COVID Act Now website, Kofman created an online game designed to raise $1 million for the eventual 2020 Democratic candidate and defeat President Trump.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/25/in ... lockdowns/

Models? Gee where have I heard that term before? This thing just has to be turned into Climate Catastrophe's ugly brother doesn't it?

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27 Mar 2020, 6:22 am

Announced three minutes ago: Boris Johnson has tested positive for Covid-19.
It’s on the Guardians’ live news feed and Laura Kuensberg’s twitter.

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27 Mar 2020, 6:28 am

So far only the minor league outlets are covering this.

One would think BBC would have something to say.

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27 Mar 2020, 6:30 am

Neither the Guardian nor the BBC count as minor.

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27 Mar 2020, 6:57 am

Took em long enough.

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27 Mar 2020, 8:20 am

If everyone was basically honest and honourable (as I believe everyone on this forum actually is)
this needn't have carried on so long and for an indefinite period.

The problem is many (maybe most) people aren't. If a person with it or other flu symptoms in general would just stay home everyone else (but the extra vulnerable) could carry on.

That's why I believe in imposing strict measures like in Taiwan and Singapore where they track infected and quarantined people make sure people are being taken care of and ensure everyone in that situation (around them) is following protocol.

The reason rates declined everywhere was because ppl finally began following protocol. But it didn't need to be this drastic to begin with.

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27 Mar 2020, 8:21 am

Darmok wrote:

Forms of fallout.

Harvard, Boasting $40 Billion Endowment, Lays Off Dining Hall Workers Due to Coronavirus
Country's richest university cuts costs as pandemic sweeps country

Harvard University, which has the largest endowment of any school in the country, is cutting its subcontracted dining hall workers without pay as it shuts down in response to the coronavirus pandemic.

The move is drawing criticism from employment rights advocates on and off campus who point to the university's $40.9 billion endowment as evidence that the school is hardly in financial straits. They also claim the decision violates Harvard's wage equality policy, which requires the university to compensate dining hall contract workers in a fashion comparable to the school's directly hired employees.

https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/harv ... endowment/

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27 Mar 2020, 8:35 am

We have more people in my state under 65 with it than people over.

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