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16 Nov 2021, 5:21 am

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Contrast the way 17 yr old Rittenhouse was treated by Kenosha police while walking with a loaded weapon in a riot with 16 year old Ma'Khia Bryant
https://www.npr.org/2021/04/20/98934278 ... -family-sa


The girl who was shot literally mid stab?

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Not exactly comparable situations...


This may be a more comparable situation:
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Suspected Texas high school gunman released on bail — one day after teacher and students shot

The Texas student who allegedly opened fire at his high school, injuring four people, including a teacher, was sprung from jail on Thursday afternoon — as an attorney who joined him insisted that the case wasn’t a “standard-issue school shooting.”

Timothy George Simpkins, 18, who attends Timberview High School in Arlington, will report to home confinement after he posted $75,000 bond at Tarrant County Jail, news station WFAA reported.

Simpkins, who was wearing a blue baseball cap and graphic T-shirt, didn’t answer questions from reporters as he was escorted from the jailhouse by two relatives into the back seat of a white Mercedes sedan.

As part of the conditions of his release, he will also have to submit to drug and alcohol testing and wear a GPS monitoring device.

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Footage on social media allegedly showed Simpkins getting into an altercation during class with another student that escalated to gunfire Wednesday.

The fight was broken up and the two students calmed down, but then Simpkins pulled out a firearm from his orange backpack and fired several shots that struck three people, according to an arrest warrant Thursday.

Calvin Pettitt, a 25-year-old English teacher who jumped in to break up the fight, was shot in the back, suffering broken ribs and a collapsed lung, according to police and his family.

Source: https://nypost.com/2021/10/07/suspected-texas-high-school-shooter-released-from-jail/



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16 Nov 2021, 5:21 am

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The prosecutor argued these pictures show heros who are trying to stop an active shooter who just murdered Rosenbaum.


I actually think that's the other missing part of the narrative the right are trying to hog. Most of the those who tackled Rittenhouse legit thought they were trying to disarm an active shooter. Certainly was the case for Huber and Grosskreutz at least.


Well, he *was* an "active shooter" trying to protect himself from 3 men chasing him down.
Presumably, he feared for his life.
I would have, not that I would have put myself in his situation in the first place.

I am assuming 3 men *were* chasing *him*, before any shots were made.
Please correct me if I am wrong. 8)



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16 Nov 2021, 5:31 am

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What I want to know is why did the prosecution even have this weapon's charge, if they knew no crime was committed there. Either the prosecution is really stupid, or they know no law was broken there, and they were hoping the defense and the judge would be stupid, and not notice this?

Another thing I don't understand is, people online were calling Rittenhouse a racist but I don't understand why. How was he racist?


He said he was protecting property from the progressive protestors, therefore he must be "racist".
Simples.
The usual binary politics. 8)

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Kyle Rittenhouse's mother says Biden 'defamed' her son by suggesting he is a white supremacist
"He is not a white supremacist. He is not a racist," Wendy Rittenhouse told Fox News host Sean Hannity.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ky ... e-rcna5453



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16 Nov 2021, 5:39 am

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Rittenhouse captured yawning, bored at the proceedings. Not really all that emotional after all his crying

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The defense smirking, after all the vigilante killing is funny even if its disrespectful to the families of the victims


I am not saying this must be why he is yawning, but people who experience severe emotional stress do find it taxing.
And the expression of the person in front may be due to something we are unaware of.

My point is, it is all speculation, if we are simply using the picture as reference.
I try not to jump to conclusions. 8)



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16 Nov 2021, 6:11 am

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Rittenhouse captured yawning, bored at the proceedings. Not really all that emotional after all his crying

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The defense smirking, after all the vigilante killing is funny even if its disrespectful to the families of the victims


Don't you realize how entirely misleading one snippet of time can be? I learned long ago not to read into photos like this. What you think you see is usually wrong, in my experience. People who aren't bored yawn. It could mean he was too stressed to sleep well, among other things. And funny moments can happen in court.


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16 Nov 2021, 9:19 am

KR's behavior so far would not impress anyone who has had to deal with narcissistic sociopaths.

My money is on at least one guilty verdict -- $50, with another $10 per additional guilty verdict.



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16 Nov 2021, 11:10 am

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I am assuming 3 men *were* chasing *him*, before any shots were made.
Please correct me if I am wrong. 8)

He killed Rosenbaum, and then he fled, and was chased by a crowd of people.

The crowd was calling for someone to "get him".


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16 Nov 2021, 11:14 am

Rittenhouse was looking for trouble----and, yes, he certainly found it.....

I sense he will be convicted on most of the charges----but that his sentence will be mitigated somewhat because of his age.



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16 Nov 2021, 11:46 am

This may have gone unnoticed ..

"Prosecutors were given a boost Friday when Judge Bruce Schroeder ruled they could argue that Rittenhouse had provoked the initial encounter with Rosenbaum by raising his weapon in the moments before Rosenbaum began to chase him".

So, the prosecutor argued that Rittenhouse provoked Rosenbaum to chase him.


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16 Nov 2021, 2:08 pm

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I am assuming 3 men *were* chasing *him*, before any shots were made.
Please correct me if I am wrong. 8)

He killed Rosenbaum, and then he fled, and was chased by a crowd of people.

The crowd was calling for someone to "get him".


Why was the crowd yelling get him if they didn't know he was active shooter? Isn't yelling get him to someone holding a carbine a bad idea, unless they are more certain it was him?



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16 Nov 2021, 2:41 pm

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Rittenhouse captured yawning, bored at the proceedings. Not really all that emotional after all his crying

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The defense smirking, after all the vigilante killing is funny even if its disrespectful to the families of the victims


Don't you realize how entirely misleading one snippet of time can be? I learned long ago not to read into photos like this. What you think you see is usually wrong, in my experience. People who aren't bored yawn. It could mean he was too stressed to sleep well, among other things. And funny moments can happen in court.


Agreed.
Some people don't have an open mind and will manipulate the situation to suit their particular bias.
I am no longer surprised there are still so many people who have such a poor understanding of human psychology. 8)



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16 Nov 2021, 2:43 pm

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I am assuming 3 men *were* chasing *him*, before any shots were made.
Please correct me if I am wrong. 8)

He killed Rosenbaum, and then he fled, and was chased by a crowd of people.

The crowd was calling for someone to "get him".


Now, could you provide evidence of what you have stated?



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16 Nov 2021, 2:45 pm

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This may have gone unnoticed ..

"Prosecutors were given a boost Friday when Judge Bruce Schroeder ruled they could argue that Rittenhouse had provoked the initial encounter with Rosenbaum by raising his weapon in the moments before Rosenbaum began to chase him".

So, the prosecutor argued that Rittenhouse provoked Rosenbaum to chase him.


Did Rosenbaum threaten Rittenhouse?
Was there a reason for Rittenhouse's action?



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16 Nov 2021, 2:51 pm

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KR's behavior so far would not impress anyone who has had to deal with narcissistic sociopaths.

My money is on at least one guilty verdict -- $50, with another $10 per additional guilty verdict.


I have been victimised by many sanctimonious narcissists and also psychopaths, yet I am still open-minded about Rittenhouse.
Admittedly, I am still at the beginning of my investigation. 8)



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16 Nov 2021, 2:55 pm

Pepe wrote:
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I am assuming 3 men *were* chasing *him*, before any shots were made.
Please correct me if I am wrong. 8)

He killed Rosenbaum, and then he fled, and was chased by a crowd of people.

The crowd was calling for someone to "get him".


Now, could you provide evidence of what you have stated?

Or you can do some research on a topic you're posting a lot about?

What I said above is not disputed, and is on video.


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16 Nov 2021, 2:58 pm

ironpony wrote:
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I am assuming 3 men *were* chasing *him*, before any shots were made.
Please correct me if I am wrong. 8)

He killed Rosenbaum, and then he fled, and was chased by a crowd of people.

The crowd was calling for someone to "get him".


Why was the crowd yelling get him if they didn't know he was active shooter? Isn't yelling get him to someone holding a carbine a bad idea, unless they are more certain it was him?

Rittenhouse just killed someone, and fled.

That makes him look guilty.

So, likely, the crowd believed he was a murderer trying to get away.


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