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27 Mar 2020, 12:57 pm

Another interesting article about old world remedies:

My father, Ed Palkot, has a unique perspective on the current coronavirus pandemic.

He's sheltering in place now in his suburban New York home. And he's 106. He survived the last major global ‎pandemic.

That one infected 500 million people around the world and killed some 50 million, 675,000 in the U.S.

‎American cities were especially hard-hit, including Pittsburgh, Penn. The city of just over half-a-million at the time saw 4,500 deaths from the virus and 24,000 reported cases. And Dad was one of them.

Edward was 5 years old. According to him, he probably contracted the “dreaded disease” from his “playmates.” Unlike the current COVID-19, the Spanish flu hit younger people harder than the elderly.

“Those who drank whiskey escaped the flu,” Dad recalls his mother Mamie suggesting, “those who did not, succumbed.”

In fact, Dad’s mother and father were fine. Ed, the only child at the time, got the attention.

Pittsburgh's mayor reluctantly followed guidance from Pennsylvania authorities to close public spaces, so the virus came with a vengeance. The city scrambled to set up makeshift hospitals. People crowded in, struggled to breathe, their lungs filling with liquid. There were no respirators then.

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At the Spanish flu’s peak, people were dying in the city at the rate of 100 a day.

“The procession of horse-drawn hearses seemed to continue endlessly,” he said. Most of the wakes were at home, not funeral homes. “You learned of a death by a wreathe at the door — purple for older people, white for the young.”

When the death rate increased, Dad recalled, just plain flowers were used.

Source: Reporter's notebook: How my dad, 106, survived the 'other' pandemic - the Spanish flu


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27 Mar 2020, 2:40 pm

^ it may have been you, but I recall someone here mentioning that love of vodka may be why Russia is doing better than most countries in all this.

I think they say Germany did the best because of a better approach to testing.


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27 Mar 2020, 2:52 pm

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^ it may have been you, but I recall someone here mentioning that love of vodka may be why Russia is doing better than most countries in all this.

I think they say Germany did the best because of a better approach to testing.


I believe the big thing helping Russia's numbers at the moment is that they classify COVID-19 cases as pneumonia.


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27 Mar 2020, 2:53 pm

Crazy how we have gone from 98 US cases on March 1 to 97,000 cases on March 27th


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27 Mar 2020, 2:58 pm

blooiejagwa wrote:
^ it may have been you, but I recall someone here mentioning that love of vodka may be why Russia is doing better than most countries in all this.

I think they say Germany did the best because of a better approach to testing.


That is part of it but Germany also has a lot more medical beds then Italy a lot of Italy's problem is the healthcare system is overloaded to the point they are having to choose who to treat leading to a lot higher death rate.

South Korea ranks second in the world in the number of hospital beds per 1000 people and Germany ranks 4th in the world. Italy ranks 26th and the USA ranks 32nd thus why we see the stories about setting up Hotels to house the sick and using Hospital ships in the USA.


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27 Mar 2020, 3:56 pm

In New York City they have a drug combo that is working on CV patients but it needs FDA approval.

There is also a company near called Berkshire sterile manufacturing that is working on a drug that could cure CV.


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27 Mar 2020, 4:43 pm

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 1537454266

Positive interlude: Wild mountain goats roam freely in the streets of Eilat during lockdown. What a wonderful sight! See MG?


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27 Mar 2020, 4:46 pm

The animals are certainly having it good :)



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27 Mar 2020, 4:48 pm

London Excel Conference Centre being turned into an emergency hospital. Temporary morgue being created within Birmingham Airport.



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27 Mar 2020, 4:52 pm

My sister said there is an underlying tension at work today.... because they have to plan for the expected surge of cases starting next week. She said they are shifting patients who can go back to the retirement home back as then the beds will be available at the hospital for anyone else who is admitted for anything (not just covid). Because of the surge of expected cases --not deaths, note, because a person here seems to think when we say cases of it, we mean death but we don't--will make less beds available for other types of patients including hers in rehab.

She said they are calm but working hard to prepare so there isn't a strain on the hospitals


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27 Mar 2020, 4:57 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
The animals are certainly having it good :)


My "squatting" rats aren't doing so well :wink:


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27 Mar 2020, 5:17 pm

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27 Mar 2020, 5:32 pm

Magna wrote:
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Considering how quickly the total cases in the USA surged pass the reported cases in China. I am willing to bet China was not being honest about the number of cases. If they would have many other counties would have likely taken it serious sooner.


I have zero doubt about China being dishonest with its reporting of the number of cases of the virus within the country.


Agreed.
China has no credibility.
You have to look beyond the poop they keep dishing out. :wink:

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Another article caught my attention:

More than 300 people have died and a further 1,000 have fallen ill in Iran after consuming methanol in the belief that it will protect them against the coronavirus, according to local media.


And indeed it did,
For "The 300".



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27 Mar 2020, 5:37 pm

I actually had a dream (nightmare more like) about a small pig that I took in that had coronavirus.

I placed it out on the balcony and asked my family to take care of it while I did other things (they were visiting).

They were over for the weekend so I spent my weekend doing other things. Then when I returned I asked my mom how it was and they hadn't fed it or given it any water nothing. I went and gave it everything and I was telling off my mom for not taking care of it, and she had the excuse of coronavirus, I said so what, you could have just put the food outside, you don't have to go near the pig.
I was so sad.

I was feeling so guilty for having fun because I could have been giving it something in the meantime, just so it wouldn't be hungry.
I woke up in the middle of a long argument with my family yelling at them....


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27 Mar 2020, 5:39 pm

Misslizard wrote:


The "better" viruses don't want to kill their hosts.
The coronavirus is much "smarter", by comparison.

blooiejagwa wrote:
I actually had a dream (nightmare more like) about a small pig that I took in that had coronavirus.

I placed it out on the balcony and asked my family to take care of it while I did other things (they were visiting).

They were over for the weekend so I spent my weekend doing other things. Then when I returned I asked my mom how it was and they hadn't fed it or given it any water nothing. I went and gave it everything and I was telling off my mom for not taking care of it, and she had the excuse of coronavirus, I said so what, you could have just put the food outside, you don't have to go near the pig.
I was so sad.

I was feeling so guilty for having fun because I could have been giving it something in the meantime, just so it wouldn't be hungry.
I woke up in the middle of a long argument with my family yelling at them....


I think you are telling a porky here. :mrgreen:



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27 Mar 2020, 5:47 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
The animals are certainly having it good :)


"The meek shall inherit the earth."

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If everyone was basically honest and honourable (as I believe everyone on this forum actually is)
this needn't have carried on so long and for an indefinite period.

The problem is many (maybe most) people aren't. If a person with it or other flu symptoms in general would just stay home everyone else (but the extra vulnerable) could carry on.

That's why I believe in imposing strict measures like in Taiwan and Singapore where they track infected and quarantined people make sure people are being taken care of and ensure everyone in that situation (around them) is following protocol.

The reason rates declined everywhere was because ppl finally began following protocol. But it didn't need to be this drastic to begin with.


Look on the bright side.
Most recalcitrants, or their mother and father, might be out of a job, due to their selfishness.
That thought always cheers me up. :mrgreen: