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28 Mar 2020, 7:43 am

The first person from my home city died from CV yesterday.


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28 Mar 2020, 8:11 am



Cutie pie :heart:



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28 Mar 2020, 8:15 am



Watch this video at 3:28 into the film. Humor at its best.


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28 Mar 2020, 8:19 am

EzraS wrote:
... ... [ what's all the fuss about? ] ... ...

I think that you may well be right, and that I've been totally wrong.

Just read this https://www.globalresearch.ca/swiss-doc ... 19/5707642

... and was in shock ( real shock, shaking and crying ), after reading it, shock at the extraordinary levels of incompetency/human error/foolishness of governments etc and of corruption/manipulation/exploitation and lies running rampant worldwide at the moment if the data in this piece is to be believed.

Shock that governments either unable to think more clearly and look after their citizens better, and/or that they are so corrupt/in cahoots with or in debt to/under thumb of big business *** that they would participate in encouraging so much fear and in bringing in measures so harsh, so disastrous to so many of the poorest, when data widely available for at least a week, ( much longer in scientific journals etc ) now indicates that this coronavirus is about as dangerous as a bad cold or a bout of flu.

*** Economists and financial pundits etc have been saying for a couple of years now that another global crash was imminent, and that it would be far worse than the last one and that the chances of people around the world letting their governments bail out the banks and big corps again was much smaller this time. As it is they now have perfect "cover story" and they're qualifying for huge aid packages from govts. ...



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28 Mar 2020, 8:20 am

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That's a very good post (last para especially) and ditto regarding offending anyone.

The issue with the face masks with the silver cloth is that I read that material's protective properties wash off.

So it's a one-use situation which sounds rather wasteful for the effort that was put in making it.

Alternatively I suppose one could use a paper cloth mask first and this one over is to have it hygienic and lasting a longer time without having to wash it.


Yes there are two rules with silver cloth material: never wash and keep away from sunlight.
It takes a different mindset. The material by its very nature is hygienic.

This is the first pair of antimicrobial Fingertip Kenized Silver Cloth Gloves that my wife made. It is a bit of work for my wife to make. Not as simple as face mask. But I think they turned out well as a prototype.

I guess if it ever goes into production, I would make the base of the glove out of bamboo fabric (similar to the heavy weight fabric used in the bamboo stockings I purchased) because of its natural antimicrobial properties and then add the silver cloth fingertips.

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Products rushed out pose a number of risks.


This is in the concept/prototyping stage. Let the creative juices flow!


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28 Mar 2020, 8:39 am

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Cutie pie :heart:


It's interesting how the shape of the head is similar to that of a dog,



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28 Mar 2020, 8:53 am

ouinon2 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
... ... [ what's all the fuss about? ] ... ...

I think that you may well be right, and that I've been totally wrong.


Just for the record I did not write that. It went:

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Joe90 wrote:
Well then why all this fuss and lockdowns and stuff?

I think one reason is because in case it gets really bad, politicians and elected officials don't want the public saying they did not take enough precautions.


However I have expressed being skeptical about this thing killing people the way the Spanish Flu did. And that it would probably be closer to the H1N1 pandemic (which was also associated with the Spanish Flu in 2009).

ouinon2 wrote:
Just read this https://www.globalresearch.ca/swiss-doc ... 19/5707642

... and was in shock ( real shock, shaking and crying ), after reading it, shock at the extraordinary levels of incompetency/human error/foolishness of governments etc and of corruption/manipulation/exploitation and lies running rampant worldwide at the moment if the data in this piece is to be believed.

Shock that governments either unable to think more clearly and look after their citizens better, and/or that they are so corrupt/in cahoots with or in debt to/under thumb of big business *** that they would participate in encouraging so much fear and in bringing in measures so harsh, so disastrous to so many of the poorest, when data widely available for at least a week, ( much longer in scientific journals etc ) now indicates that this coronavirus is about as dangerous as a bad cold or a bout of flu.

*** Economists and financial pundits etc have been saying for a couple of years now that another global crash was imminent, and that it would be far worse than the last one and that the chances of people around the world letting their governments bail out the banks and big corps again was much smaller this time. As it is they now have perfect "cover story" and they're qualifying for huge aid packages from govts. ...


Very interesting. Hopefully it goes forth as a unanimous verdict and there can be an end to the nightmare.

We Swiss know our stuff :mrgreen:



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28 Mar 2020, 9:35 am

https://www.facebook.com/666789412/post ... 021334413/

Cheer up time!! ! Staying Inside Bee Gees style, it's the best Corona song so far!!


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28 Mar 2020, 9:36 am

Thanks :D



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28 Mar 2020, 9:48 am

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More, more and more rapid testing devices are popping up everywhere!

(1) DETECT COVID-19 IN AS LITTLE AS 5 MINUTES
https://www.abbott.com/corpnewsroom/product-and-innovation/detect-covid-19-in-as-little-as-5-minutes.html
... Abbott expects to produce about 5 million tests in April.

(2) Cheapest Rapid Physical Test

This new just came out in Taiwan, so I don't think the news has been translated into other languages, yet. The actual screening time is only 30 seconds. It doesn't detect the virus. Instead, it detect the existence of minute amount of liquid inside the lung (which is what truly matters for infecting other people). Because it's based on physical principles (as opposed to biochemical principles), the device is dirt-cheap. And the marginal cost of each additional test is essentially zero dollars. Considering that the R0 of the COVID-19 virus is barely 1.5~3.5, if a patient is discovered with this device, in all likeliness we will have discovered the patient BEFORE he/she has a chance to infect other people. If the accuracy of the device is confirmed, then this device (or similar devices) will be the real thing that will allow everyone to go back to work and school. This device makes it possible for everyone to be screened, every day. Of course, the positive cases will have to be followed by biochemical tests.


It is good to see all the creative geniuses around the world working so hard to put an end to this pandemic. Maybe next time one of these pandemics reappears (~once per decade) we will remember the lessons learned in this effort and quickly put the damn thing to bed.


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28 Mar 2020, 9:50 am

Something I find interesting is that going by total worldwide cases and the number of deaths, the mortality rate comes out to about 4.6%.

However going by the total number of cases in the US and the number of deaths, the mortality rate comes out to about 1.7%

And in New York the mortality rate comes out to about 1.3% (46,262 cases - 606 deaths).

Also since H1N1 infected as many as 60.8 million people in the US, it seems hard to believe that what is supposed to be a more contagious virus, has only infected less than 0.2% of that number, even with shutdowns in place. I think there has got to be a lot more people who have CV.



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28 Mar 2020, 9:53 am

The measures put in place are caused by the virulence of the virus.



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28 Mar 2020, 10:07 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
The measures put in place are caused by the virulence of the virus.


It is supposed to be more virulent than H1N1, but so far it has 0.2% the infection rate of H1N1.



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28 Mar 2020, 10:09 am

We’ll have to see when the curve is flattened, and cases go down rapidly.



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28 Mar 2020, 10:11 am

EzraS wrote:
ouinon2 wrote:
I think that you may well be right, and that I've been totally wrong.
... I have expressed being skeptical about this thing killing people the way the Spanish Flu did. And that it would probably be closer to the H1N1 pandemic (which was also associated with the Spanish Flu in 2009).
ouinon2 wrote:
Just read this https://www.globalresearch.ca/swiss-doc ... 19/5707642

... and was in shock ( real shock, shaking and crying ), after reading it, shock at the extraordinary levels of incompetency/human error/foolishness of governments etc and of corruption/manipulation/exploitation and lies running rampant worldwide at the moment if the data in this piece is to be believed.

Shock that governments either unable to think more clearly and look after their citizens better, and/or that they are so corrupt/in cahoots with or in debt to/under thumb of big business *** that they would participate in encouraging so much fear and in bringing in measures so harsh, so disastrous to so many of the poorest, when data widely available for at least a week, ( much longer in scientific journals etc ) now indicates that this coronavirus is about as dangerous as a bad cold or a bout of flu.

*** Economists and financial pundits etc have been saying for a couple of years now that another global crash was imminent, and that it would be far worse than the last one and that the chances of people around the world letting their governments bail out the banks and big corps again was much smaller this time. As it is they now have perfect "cover story" and they're qualifying for huge aid packages from govts. ...


Very interesting. Hopefully it goes forth as a unanimous verdict and there can be an end to the nightmare.

We Swiss know our stuff :mrgreen:

:)

It also occurred to me that perhaps another reason why this might have taken off so massively with so little proof of virulence is that an awful lot of people have been longing for something like this.



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28 Mar 2020, 10:17 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
We’ll have to see when the curve is flattened, and cases go down rapidly.


How much further down can they go than 0.2% of H1N1 cases?