Who was your Favorite Capitol Rioter and why?

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04 Feb 2021, 6:37 pm

I'm actually running out of "superlatives" to describe these MAGAs.



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04 Feb 2021, 11:26 pm

how 'bout epithets? Hinterwäldler is a start.



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05 Feb 2021, 2:52 pm

I wonder what real Native Americans think of Fuzzy Horned Buffalo Hat Man?


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05 Feb 2021, 2:59 pm

they may likely think that he is another evil white man.



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05 Feb 2021, 6:59 pm

If you want to know what white Americans think of native Americans you only have to look at the dead fish eyes and condescending sneer coming from a teenager wearing a MAGA hat by the name of Nicolas Sandmann as he stared down at an old native American elder.

Sandmann was financially rewarded hundreds of thousands of dollars after he and his teenage friends were filmed openly disrespected a native American man in a video that went viral.

This is the type of spirit that underpins the MAGA thinking. When you legitimise this type of thinking then any wonder you can't culturally appropriate native attire (and throw in horns) in order to denigrate/ridicule.



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05 Feb 2021, 8:55 pm

that delinquent teen's parents are at fault here. they enabled him to become sociopathic.



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05 Feb 2021, 9:56 pm

auntblabby wrote:
that delinquent teen's parents are at fault here. they enabled him to become sociopathic.


Despite the valiant attempts by the progressive education systems - People in colonies such as the US, Australia and Canada can't see that they are simply internalising their parent's prejudices which were inherited from their parents. The ugly attitudes that exists a mere 50 years ago haven't just vanished. They have transformed.



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05 Feb 2021, 9:58 pm

cyberdad wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
that delinquent teen's parents are at fault here. they enabled him to become sociopathic.


Despite the valiant attempts by the progressive education systems - People in colonies such as the US, Australia and Canada can't see that they are simply internalising their parent's prejudices which were inherited from their parents. The ugly attitudes that exists a mere 50 years ago haven't just vanished. They have transformed.

i guess that is what the good book meant when it talked about how the sins of the fathers are visited upon the sons to the third generation.



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05 Feb 2021, 9:59 pm

auntblabby wrote:
that delinquent teen's parents are at fault here. they enabled him to become sociopathic.



I agree that many families have created a toxic environment that feeds on--and into--this crap (Kyle Rittenhouse and his wing-mom, anyone?). On the other hand, I also hear stories about family members who have just one or two members who've gone completely off the rails.* I think this article speaks pretty well to that, but I admit I haven't read it all yet:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... xtremists/

*I suspect they are in the minority. The scale of bigotry and lunacy is enormous.



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05 Feb 2021, 10:05 pm

not enough of these families that are part of the solution.



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05 Feb 2021, 11:07 pm

My question/comment was specifically referring to a white/Caucasian protester who apparently presented himself as a ‘shaman’ by wearing a pseudo Native American Buffalo skin hat, and identities himself with the Qanon group.
He lives with his mother,
Committed a felony by breaking in to the Capitol, went on a hunger because he didn’t get the food he demanded, s
And goes by 3 different names.
How does he identify with Native Americans?
Why is it Okay for him to do so?
If I were a Native American I would be furious.


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05 Feb 2021, 11:36 pm

the more discerning among the populace know the man is non compos mentis, lacking basic decency, IOW a moral imbecile.



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06 Feb 2021, 5:15 am

Sylkat wrote:
My question/comment was specifically referring to a white/Caucasian protester who apparently presented himself as a ‘shaman’ by wearing a pseudo Native American Buffalo skin hat, and identities himself with the Qanon group.
He lives with his mother,
Committed a felony by breaking in to the Capitol, went on a hunger because he didn’t get the food he demanded, s
And goes by 3 different names.
How does he identify with Native Americans?
Why is it Okay for him to do so?
If I were a Native American I would be furious.


I don't think he identifies with native Americans. He wanted to come across as a patriot and was play-acting using a fake native identity purely as a parody.

As Aunt Blabs correctly pointed out native Americans have enough on their plate to worry about this MAGA moron.



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06 Feb 2021, 8:08 am

Actually, one of the things (among many) that bother me is that images of him in full fantasy gear/costume have been broadcast around the world and will live on the Internet forever.
Visually, there is a blatant reference to Native American culture.
Someone, somewhere, will think he is real.
Having the truth available a month after this mob criminal action does not guarantee that that truth is going to change initial international impressions.
In addition, did his mother not have any concerns regarding his ideas and fantasies?
Did she even TRY to get him into therapy?


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06 Feb 2021, 8:29 am

In keeping with the original topic:
Jenny Cudd, an arrested Capitol Rioter, is being given time off from jail to take a lovely pre-scheduled vacation trip to sunny Mexico.
She was only charged with 2 misdemeanors, but has described her actions, on Facebook, as more violent, sounding more like felonies to me.
She bragged on Facebook about participating in breaking down Pelosi’s door.
She also bragged about the whole mob/riot/attack, foul-mouthed, and that she ‘...would do it again !’
And she gets to take a sunshine-and-tequila beer vacation.
She is considered ‘not a flight risk’ and ‘not a danger to the public’
What if Pelosi had been in that office?


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06 Feb 2021, 9:11 am

Something pretty rotten seems to lurk in dark places of the States of 'Merica.


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