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24 Jan 2017, 8:30 pm

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^^ "Anarchists" are the farthest left of the Left. They are basically communist guerrilla units seeking violent overthrow of the state.

(They are not to be confused with certain 19th-century schools of thought, sometimes called Individualist Anarchism, which are ancestors of modern libertarianism.)

Those folks look plenty confused to me.

I don't think anyone gets to tell anarchists what they are, by definition.

Being more or less on the left, they probably try to tell each other what it means and are so sure that they know how to be a real anarchists that other anarchists want to punch them in the face. I'm on the left, and that's how we act until we start punching each other in the face and all the liberals run away (hyperbole).

My sister dated one of those guys, and he was a disaster. If the communists had been funding him, he would have not had some of the problems that he did. I don't hate them and I think they can serve a useful purpose even though I get angry at them all the time. Sort of like I feel about legit intellectual conservatives. I get to have an opinion on that.

Anyway, anarchy is everything we do when we don't even think about calling in the government. If a real anarchist burned my car, it would be personal. Libertarians say I'm not a libertarian if I say that I will burn down their factory for polluting my water, so they are not real anarchists.

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24 Jan 2017, 8:33 pm

Hmmm,looks like there are right wing anarchists out there.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National-anarchism

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24 Jan 2017, 9:14 pm

Just overheard on the local Fake News:

"[The traffic jam]will be cleared shortly. It will take a long time to clear."

No one can decide which alternative facts are facts anymore!

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24 Jan 2017, 10:22 pm

Mr.Robb supports Trump.Lots of Trump signs in the area where his compound is located,Zinc,AR.
http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/ar ... the-litter

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24 Jan 2017, 10:45 pm

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Mr.Robb supports Trump.Lots of Trump signs in the area where his compound is located,Zinc,AR.
http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/ar ... the-litter

That doesn't seem to convince anyone. Even I see a huge problem. You can say some racists support Trump. You may get howls or arguments that the source is acting in bad faith, but anyone could call the guy and check. Most activist organizations don't get a lot of calls from curious people and are happy to take them.

But, racists support Trump does not imply that all his supporters are racists, nor indeed even that he supports racists (he supports only himself), so you proved that an idiot is an idiot and nothing else.

I really want to find their limit, though. The supporters. He has no limits, in my opinion, so theirs are really interesting to me. The darned thing is Heisenberg, though. I can't measure it without affecting it.

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24 Jan 2017, 11:00 pm

jrjones9933 wrote:

But, racists support Trump does not imply that all his supporters are racists, nor indeed even that he supports racists (he supports only himself), so you proved that an idiot is an idiot and nothing else.

I suppose the 62% of white American women who supported Trump don't approve his misogyny or the 30% of Latinos who voted for Trump agree with his comments they are rapists and criminals.
The people who voted for Trump aren't all stupid, at best I think they are willing compromise their morals and ethics for some ulterior motive...at worst they wanted to teach African Americans, Latinos and muslims a lesson...

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24 Jan 2017, 11:21 pm

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That worst sounds pretty bad to me, but I don't need to go there. I don't know.

I've talked to people here, I've talked to my family as little as possible about this, I got an earful of unsolicited opinions in my business school classes, and I listened to lots of Trump voters in interviews every chance I got. I have tried to figure out what's up, and I don't get it. They don't usually sound stupid, but they make unfalsifiable claims. It's hard to explain to people why unfalsifiable claims are a problem, and just trying to say the word will make people's eyes glaze over, but I can't address an unfalsifiable claim. Sorry.

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24 Jan 2017, 11:39 pm

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I just figured since they're acting like terrorists, they wanted to dress like them too.

Maybe they could take a leaf out of some these Trump supporters
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... acism-hate

Just more sensationalism. No such groups were at the inauguration.

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<--- Still waiting to see people reveling in the streets about the Trump presidency.

They're afraid of being attacked by angry violent leftists.

Misslizard wrote:

Not exactly.Those are Anarchists,not leftists.

They were part of the leftist riots being cheered on by them.

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24 Jan 2017, 11:47 pm

Why should anyone answer the questions that people actually ask when they can just make up questions they prefer and answer those?

Why should Trump hire people to paint the leaves green? If they needed to be green, just claim that they were.

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25 Jan 2017, 4:57 am

...Why are these cowardly afraid-to-celebrate-Trump,,s-victory tin the wave of violent leftists attacking people who support Trump letting that sway them ?
They don,t have enough guns or something ? :mrgreen:

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EzraS wrote:

I just figured since they're acting like terrorists, they wanted to dress like them too.

Maybe they could take a leaf out of some these Trump supporters
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... acism-hate

Just more sensationalism. No such groups were at the inauguration.

redrobin62 wrote:

<--- Still waiting to see people reveling in the streets about the Trump presidency.

They're afraid of being attacked by angry violent leftists.

Misslizard wrote:

Not exactly.Those are Anarchists,not leftists.

They were part of the leftist riots being cheered on by them.[/quote]

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25 Jan 2017, 8:43 am

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You're saying avoiding confrontations with violent leftist who attack people, equals being cowardly? I thought it just meant being sensible.

But afraid was the wrong word. I should have said leery. Most sane people are leery of kooks and try to avoid them flipping out on them. The way that leftist kook flipped out on that guy sitting next to her on an airplane and had to be carted off to the rubber room.

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25 Jan 2017, 8:47 am

I don't believe in anybody rioting, period----leftist, rightist, whatever.

People who burn cars deserve to go to jail, no matter their political affiliation.

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25 Jan 2017, 10:44 am

EzraS wrote:

cyberdad wrote:

EzraS wrote:

I just figured since they're acting like terrorists, they wanted to dress like them too.

Maybe they could take a leaf out of some these Trump supporters
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... acism-hate

Just more sensationalism. No such groups were at the inauguration.

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<--- Still waiting to see people reveling in the streets about the Trump presidency.

They're afraid of being attacked by angry violent leftists.

Misslizard wrote:

Not exactly.Those are Anarchists,not leftists.

They were part of the leftist riots being cheered on by them.

You mean leftist protest,the majority were peaceful.Only a minority of the group caused trouble and were arrested.Show me a picture of peaceful protestors cheering the anarchists on.Do you know what agenda the guys in black had?For all you know they are right wing anarchists.Every been to a party where an undesirable crashes it?There isn't any way to control who shows up for these events.You obviously turn a deaf ear to the comments of the people on the left here that don't condone that activity and lump us all as violent agitaters just waiting to loot,rape and pillage.Thats like saying one autistic shooter means all autistics want to shoot up a school.

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25 Jan 2017, 10:50 am

^ :cheers:

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25 Jan 2017, 10:55 am

Lots of people in the media still don't get it. They keep saying Trump is still campaigning... No, wrong. The internal slogan of the campaign was Let Trump be Trump. They won on that; they won on Trump; get over it. Trump will continue to be Trump. That wasn't Trump campaigning, that. was. Trump.

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25 Jan 2017, 11:18 am

Misslizard wrote:

You mean leftist protest,the majority were peaceful.Only a minority of the group caused trouble and were arrested.Show me a picture of peaceful protestors cheering the anarchists on.Do you know what agenda the guys in black had?For all you know they are right wing anarchists.Every been to a party where an undesirable crashes it?There isn't any way to control who shows up for these events.You obviously turn a deaf ear to the comments of the people on the left here that don't condone that activity and lump us all as violent agitaters just waiting to loot,rape and pillage. Thats like saying one autistic shooter means all autistics want to shoot up a school.

We're not talking about one person or a few, but hundreds at the least. And them and all the rest coming completely unglued over things they've made up they're sure is going to happen in the future. And in the meantime taking any little matter that comes along and blowing it completely out of proportion with complete sensationalism while displaying total paranoia. I just find it amusing enough to comment on it.

And again, after them constantly referring to everyone on the other side of things as being Nazis and Ku Klux Klan and a slew of other over the top hyperbole, once again they aren't really in a position to complain about getting a little back of what they dish out by the shovel full.

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At this point, those here who worship the ground he walks upon don't give a f*ck if it turns out that, privately, he's a necrophiliac, bestiality-addicted, pedophile who bangs his daughters once a month or so.

Great example of what I'm talking about!

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