Who was your Favorite Capitol Rioter and why?

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06 Feb 2021, 10:31 am

The guy who never made the headlines because he had all of his gonzo paraphernalia loaded up in his car and just never went. Maybe his kids needed to go to practice, maybe the car wouldn't start, maybe he just got too drunk or stoned to go.

More should have followed his example.


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06 Feb 2021, 11:12 am

Dear Techstepgenr8tion,
I never thought about that!
That there were/are more,and a lot of them didn’t/couldn’t get there!
You are so, so right!
No telling how many more,no telling how much worse it could have been!
Are they going to try for another demonstration/destructive riot when their cohorts come to trial?
If so, are they organizing right now?
Are their kids selling patriotic cupcakes outside of their local grocery stores to raise legal defense money?
I have a feeling that the ACLU would say ‘NO!’
If asked. :roll:


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06 Feb 2021, 11:17 am

cyberdad wrote:
Sylkat wrote:
My question/comment was specifically referring to a white/Caucasian protester who apparently presented himself as a ‘shaman’ by wearing a pseudo Native American Buffalo skin hat, and identities himself with the Qanon group.
He lives with his mother,
Committed a felony by breaking in to the Capitol, went on a hunger because he didn’t get the food he demanded, s
And goes by 3 different names.
How does he identify with Native Americans?
Why is it Okay for him to do so?
If I were a Native American I would be furious.


I don't think he identifies with native Americans. He wanted to come across as a patriot and was play-acting using a fake native identity purely as a parody.

As Aunt Blabs correctly pointed out native Americans have enough on their plate to worry about this MAGA moron.

It’s not him that is the issue.Its how white rioters were treated compared to peaceful protesters of color.
https://www.yesmagazine.org/social-just ... e-capitol/


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06 Feb 2021, 11:19 am

Sylkat wrote:
Dear Techstepgenr8tion,
I never thought about that!
That there were/are more,and a lot of them didn’t/couldn’t get there!
You are so, so right!
No telling how many more,no telling how much worse it could have been!
Are they going to try for another demonstration/destructive riot when their cohorts come to trial?
If so, are they organizing right now?
Are their kids selling patriotic cupcakes outside of their local grocery stores to raise legal defense money?
I have a feeling that the ACLU would say ‘NO!’
If asked. :roll:

I doubt it (on the more protests). They might be 10 or 20% of NewsMax's target audience though. It'll be interesting to see what gets advertised over there going forward - after all the advertisers know their demographics just about better than anyone else. If it's all hearing aids, heart monitors, and Tom Selleck selling reverse mortgages I guess we'll know what's up.


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06 Feb 2021, 1:28 pm

As you perceptively pointed out , however, there ARE sympathizers and wannabes amongst us.
Disturbing thought.


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06 Feb 2021, 1:43 pm

Sylkat wrote:
As you perceptively pointed out , however, there ARE sympathizers and wannabes amongst us.
Disturbing thought.

Oh - go on Meetup.com, 95% or more of people can't even get off their couch to go to a local coffee shop to meet people about a topic, it's more about putting your face on the page to 'feel' like you're doing something, costing the organizers more for Meetup.com because the site assumes they're getting real traffic (100 members, 5 regulars, maybe 5 irregulars). This isn't just capitol rioters - it's just about anything that requires getting in a car or hopping a bus.


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06 Feb 2021, 1:59 pm

I hope you are right.
Truly.
But, how many of the demonstrators/vandals/rioters were never taken seriously by families or friends?
I hope that the ones who acted are the only ones with adequate initiative.
Or cash.
Or transportation.


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06 Feb 2021, 2:22 pm

This might be a bit controversial but - I'm hoping for the same for both capital hill rioters and 'non-peaceful' antiFa and BLM who were in Portland and other places.

I see this whole thing got a lot of attention on race - it's just wrong all the way around. We're arguing one very punctuated event of several hours vs. over 100 days worth of siege on a federal building. One can talk about power and privilege comparisons, some of the capitol hill protestors might have been suburbanites, plenty were probably rural, IMHO they're not the same thing. Much like you've got loads of antiFa who are upper middle class. The trouble is if you think the world is f'd up - try getting into journalism, try getting into law, try your hand at exposing the problems and establishing information networks that drive more adequate narratives. Damage to property and vandalism really aren't things to say 'It's okay for this group but not this group', much like it's not equitable for the police to say 'Welp - he/she's white!'.


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06 Feb 2021, 2:45 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
This might be a bit controversial but - I'm hoping for the same for both capital hill rioters and 'non-peaceful' antiFa and BLM who were in Portland and other places.



I don't think that's controversial at all. Violence should always be condemned. Unfortunately, we live in a political climate where the severity of violence is judged on a scale.

"Whelp, the other side is worse. So...yadda yadda, yadda."

"Whose worse, Hitler or Stalin?"

"Well, Stalin is worse, because...(I'm on the right.)

"No, Hitler is worse, because...(I'm on the left.)

Seems like utter madness to me.


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06 Feb 2021, 2:51 pm

VegetableMan wrote:
"Whose worse, Hitler or Stalin?"

"Well, Stalin is worse, because...(I'm on the right.)

"No, Hitler is worse, because...(I'm on the left.)

Seems like utter madness to me.

Oh I love those! :lol:

"Which way would you like to die least? Freeze to death or burn alive?"

"Oh wait... hold on I forgot to bring my bong."


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06 Feb 2021, 3:33 pm

Would you rather be killed by a tiger or a bear? Another good question!


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06 Feb 2021, 3:43 pm

Regarding the last 4 posts;
I’m nodding my head, smiling and saying ‘Yesss!’


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06 Feb 2021, 8:39 pm

Misslizard wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Sylkat wrote:
My question/comment was specifically referring to a white/Caucasian protester who apparently presented himself as a ‘shaman’ by wearing a pseudo Native American Buffalo skin hat, and identities himself with the Qanon group.
He lives with his mother,
Committed a felony by breaking in to the Capitol, went on a hunger because he didn’t get the food he demanded, s
And goes by 3 different names.
How does he identify with Native Americans?
Why is it Okay for him to do so?
If I were a Native American I would be furious.


I don't think he identifies with native Americans. He wanted to come across as a patriot and was play-acting using a fake native identity purely as a parody.

As Aunt Blabs correctly pointed out native Americans have enough on their plate to worry about this MAGA moron.

It’s not him that is the issue.Its how white rioters were treated compared to peaceful protesters of color.
https://www.yesmagazine.org/social-just ... e-capitol/


Yep, the native leader stated what everyone was thinking.
“If Native people or any people of color had done what those White supremacists did at the Capitol, we’d be filling body bags today,”

The police have historically has a long tradition of being the long arm/fist of white supremacy in America. When you have clearly demarcated predominantly white neighborhoods/towns outside of the major American cities then the police become the protectors of those zones and invariably the harshness of the police on minorities makes perfect sense when seen through that lense.



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07 Feb 2021, 5:00 am

Cause and effect. Anyone want to find things Trump said that condition MAGAs into thinking they can do violent acts then watch this little gem from 2016



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07 Feb 2021, 11:19 am

An bullhorn user, mother of eight kids, is now arrested. She used a metal pipe to smash windows at the Capitol building:

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/woman-wh ... 19359.html



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07 Feb 2021, 7:50 pm

Hatemale wrote:
All of them. Removed by moderator. Of course they failed too. They aren't revolutionaries. Revolutionaries are people with nothing to lose and these were people with everything to lose. Their job, wife, car, etc.
"Job, wife, car"?  Maybe for some, but Half-Naked Buffalo Man was a basement-dwelling mama's boy!


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