Kyle Rittenhouse trial

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Indeed, which gives me all the more hope that Rittenhouse will also go to prison!

Critically his claim that he was "protecting property" is a lie as no business contracted him or asked for his help.

Current rumours suggest a mis-trial could be likely - There are 2 jurors supposedly holding out, due to fear of backlash which could result from verdict.

What is it with you people and the prison rape fixation?

What is it with you people who are fixated on attacking those whose arguments you cannot refute?

You mean the ones I've been refuting for 20+ pages here? I decided to take a break to call out a creepy fascination that's already resulted in one mod warning in this thread; don't worry, I'm about to get to your claims of long distance lie detection shortly.

Just to set the stage a little bit, a nice opinion piece from NRO concisely sums up a lot of my feelings regarding certain reactions to an aspect of this case:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/11/ ... o-psychos/

I'm actually less sympathetic than this author, "psychos" don't choose to be born that way, where as the ideology poisoned people making these claims have in fact made a choice, a choice to be stupid, cruel, and malicious, and thus deserving of nothing but scorn.

You want to criminalize crying?

And, yet, she was condemned as a heartless monster by many sanctimonious elements of the community.
Sanctimony, self-righteousness and virtue signalling always rear their ugly head in tragedies such as this.
I find it tedious. <yawn> Oops



Ritterhouse was defending himself from being attacked.
Didn't you see the pics I presented earlier?

Was it justified?
I don't think so, but people do stupid things when they are being attacked.
But I am sure you never have done a dumb thing in your life, so you are in a position to judge. <irony>

"Walk a mile in someone else's shoes before you judge", sort of thing.

Moral of the story: Don't attack a stupid kid with an assault rifle.

Perhaps the gun laws in America need to change?

I hope that justice is served, free of politics.
That is my main concern interest.

"Critically"?
Your priorities are different to mine.

What sort of a "backlash"?



Hate and sanctimony is a problem, here.
Haven't you been paying attention?



I hope you don't think my keeping an objective open mind, with the intention of coming to a rational conclusion after gathering the facts, is an attack.

Has he given many interviews, or otherwise communicated outside of the courtroom? IIRC he's been in hiding for most of the time since being bailed out, and that photo of him at the bar was taken almost immediately after he was bailed out after several months in jail, so you'd expect him to be pretty happy about that, especially as the people he was with had helped to arrange the bail. As a person awaiting trial for murder, it was in his interest to maintain silence, as anything he said could have been used against him, including any statement of remorse, as a prosecutor could easily twist them into an admission of guilt. This is very basic legal stuff.



You mean the town where his father and other relatives lived, where he worked as a lifeguard, and where he spent the afternoon cleaning up the mess left by previous nights of rioting? Yeah, he had no connection to that place at all, it was completely ridiculous of him to be upset that it was being burned down night after night while the police stood by and watched. If he was there to initiate violence, he also did a very poor job of it, yelling "friendly! friendly! friendly!" as he rushed around with his med kit, and running from pursuit until literally cornered before resorting to force in all three shootings.



Yeah, poor unarmed Rosenbaum, who was literally fresh out of the mental hospital after a suicide attempt, who goaded multiple people to shoot him that night, had a long history of violence, and was shot in the act of chasing down Rittenhouse and trying to yank his rifle away. Amazing how you claim to know what someone's intent was who you've never met when you weren't there at the time, especially when both the video and the witness testimony confirms that all four shots were fired in less than 1 second, consistent with a self defense shooting to stop the threat, not your claim of a shot to neutralize and then three more to execute. IIRC, you're normally Mr law and order when the cops shoot someone, and they don't shoot once, pause to assess, than shoot again as necessary, they shoot until the threat is neutralized, which is exactly what occurred here. As a final aside, you don't seem to know what cold blooded means in either the legal or moral sense, as even if your argument had merit, which it does not, it would be a hot blooded murder in that it occurred in the heat of the moment, Rittenhouse did not plan out the shooting of Rosenbaum, lie in wait for him, or otherwise attack him with the proverbial cold blood required for that term to attach.



You've got at least 3 untruths in 2 sentences there, as he absolutely can claim self defense, in fact he could even claim it if he started things due to the fact that he was actively fleeing at the time of the shootings, but there is also no evidence of any threats or provocations coming from Rittenhouse (as opposed to Rosenbaum in particular), and he most certainly didn't create the danger, as that riot was happening whether he was there or not.

Aren't you the "evidence, please?" guy, who grills other members when they can't support what they say to your satisfaction (although you've gotten rather selective about that), the same person who boasts unironically of being a perfectly logical genius? And yet here you are making multiple unsupported assertions, misstating the law and the facts as shown by video, and claiming to know what's in the minds of others (when you're not making creepy prison rape reference)? Not a good showing, that's for sure.

Have you noticed how these comments tend to come from those who favor "mob justice" over the "rule of law"?

No, fully automatic rifles are heavily regulated here, they typically cost tens of thousands of dollars and require a federal background check including photos and fingerprints, that takes close to a year to complete. He had a bog standard AR15, a Smith and Wesson M&P, which is a basic entry level rifle that can be bought over the counter with a background check, which is semi automatic, one bullet per trigger pull. People don't seem to realize how quickly it's possible to shoot, guys who do competitive shooting aim for .10 seconds between shots, or 10 shots per second, it's not hard to achieve with a halfway decent trigger.

Then, consciously shooting someone 4 *separate* times is rather excessive, I would have thought.
But even professionals, such as police, do this, also.