Emergence of a Deadly Coronavirus

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I believe it's against the rules to confront people by name or on an individual basis since that kind of approach can be taken by some as a direct attack on them personally.

Example: "Some people seem to be overly sensitive on WP." This is Ok. It's an opinion.

Example #2: "[ name of specific WP member ], you're overly sensitive." I could be wrong if mods want to clarify, but I think this isn't Ok to do.

I believe it's against the rules to confront people by name or on an individual basis since that kind of approach can be taken by some as a direct attack on them personally.

Example: "Some people seem to be overly sensitive on WP." This is Ok. It's an opinion.

Example #2: "[ name of specific WP member ], you're overly sensitive." I could be wrong if mods want to clarify, but I think this isn't Ok to do.

There were banks during the depression that collapsed that led to large banks in the US swallowing them up. One of them which comprises of over 200 collapsed banks. In that time the data has a margin of unemployment of anywhere between 20-30%. Where will this be after the multiple ripple effects?

.Good News for Pakistan

A medical doctor in Italy explains why subcontinental people have better immunity and that many patients in Italy/Europe are being labeled as dying due to Corona virus, even though they died to Ischemic Heart Disease or other illnesses:

"My name is Ahmad Bashir. I did my MBBS in 1996 from King Edward Medical College, Lahore and presently I am a PULMONOLOGIST (specialist in diseases of the lungs). I am here in Italy since 2002.

After some years in Rome, I have been in Milan since the last 12 – 13 years. Since the Corona pandemic, I have been on duty in hospital. Let me tell you of the situation in Italy:

There is not an emergency in hospitals of Italy BUT a WAR like situation. Not only doctors, nurses and paramedical staff are on duty, but also 2nd year medical students are also working around the clock here as doctors.

I don’t know what is the correct impression in the outside world, but I believe Italian government made a very bad crisis management probably because it wasn’t prepared for it. People may not believe me, but what I saw is as follows:

In Milan, no other patient besides Corona is being entertained. The other night, a 50 year old came with cardiac arrest in the emergency. Doctors gave him some tablets, even though he required a stent. He died after one hour. When his dead body went out, he was also declared as to have died of the corona virus.

This is the normal routine everyday now. Two patients on dialysis were also labeled to have died due to the corona virus. The actual number of deaths due to the corona virus are very limited. Almost every dead body coming out of the hospital is being labeled as a corona patient.

One can verify all this from independent media. There are lot of people of the subcontinent here in Italy. To my knowledge not a single Indian or Pakistani died due to the Corona virus itself. I have told this to CureVac also.

Common cold virus is being addressed differently in different regions. People of the Subcontinent including Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, probably due to the dirty atmosphere have the common cold at an average of seven attacks per year as compared to three or less in other areas.

This may have been a blessing in disguise as this may have increased the immunity of the population in these areas. Many are showing genetic resistance or immunity to the virus. Even the people of the subcontinent born in Italy have shown better immunity among the overall Italian public.

Because Pakistan is my home country, I am surprised at the panic there. From the behavioural studies of the virus, we can say that with the prevailing climate, atmosphere etc in Indo-Pak the natural cure is already there.

I pray that you spread this message and be free of the panic and misunderstanding. Ameen.”

Translated from Urdu.


I leave it to your discernment ..

Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte has warned violators of coronavirus lockdown measures they could be shot for causing trouble and said abuse of medical workers was a serious crime that would not be tolerated.

In a televised address, Duterte said it was vital everyone cooperates and follows home quarantine measures, as authorities try to slow the contagion and spare the country’s fragile health system from being overwhelmed.

The Philippines has recorded 96 coronavirus deaths and 2,311 confirmed cases, all but three in the past three weeks, with infections now being reported in the hundreds every day.

It is getting worse. So once again I’m telling you the seriousness of the problem and that you must listen,” Duterte said late on Wednesday.

“My orders to the police and military ... if there is trouble and there’s an occasion that they fight back and your lives are in danger, shoot them dead.”

“Is that understood? Dead. Instead of causing trouble, I will bury you.”

His comments came after media reports of a disturbance and several arrests on Wednesday of residents in a poor area of Manila who were protesting about sufficient government food aid.

They also follow outrage among the medical community about social stigma and instances of hospital workers suffering physical abuse and discrimination, which Duterte said must be stopped.

Activists deride Duterte over his fierce rhetoric and accuse him of inviting violence and vigilantism, as shown in his war on drugs, during which police and mystery gunmen have killed thousands of people accused of using or selling drugs.

Duterte’s office typically calls his remarks hyperbole to underline his point.

The national police chief on Thursday said police understood that Duterte was demonstrating his seriousness about public order, and no one would be shot

Of course Covid does not suddenly have 10% mortality rate in Italy only. The main reason for this statistics is, people are not tested unless very severily ill. Also, I can imagine quite a chaos in Italian hospitals.

I don't know if the post is real or fake but it confirms the point that healthcare system collapse is more deadly than the virus itself.
I wonder how it looks in Spain - they have reached the same daily death rate as Italy.
"To my knowledge not a single Indian or Pakistani died due to the Corona virus itself." - It must be at least two weeks old. First death in India occurred on March 17, in Pakistan on March 20.

Will these deaths be also attributted to coronavirus?

One semi conspiracy theory is that China plans on buying stuff up after the collapse.

EMTs in New York have a new directive. Prior to this virus if they responded to a cardiac arrest call and could not revive the person on site, they would immediately bring them to the hospital in order for the hospital to try to revive the person. The new directive? If EMTs can't revive a person on site whose heart has stopped due to cardiac arrest, they do not transport to the hospital. The person is left dead on scene.

Yeah national leaders aren't hysterical over the virus and they can be trusted. There was also the Italian politician who threatened to use flamethrowers.

Yes,it is a side effect.

Pretty sure he was being sarcastic about that. Or whatever exaggerating to make a point is called. Hyperbole

https://www.businessinsider.com/florida-stay-at-home-order-exempts-religious-services-coronavirus-2020-4

"Religious gatherings in churches, synagogues, and other facilities will still be permitted under Florida's new stay-at-home order to combat COVID-19."