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03 Apr 2020, 3:11 pm
funeralxempire
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03 Apr 2020, 3:18 pm
IsabellaLinton wrote:
jimmy m wrote:
This is the abstract of a paper out of China:
Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) causes the infectious disease COVID-19, which was first reported in Wuhan, China in December, 2019. Despite the tremendous efforts to control the disease, COVID-19 has now spread to over 100 countries and caused a global pandemic. SARS-CoV- 2 is thought to have originated in bats; however, the intermediate animal sources of the virus are completely unknown. Here, we investigated the susceptibility of ferrets and animals in close contact with humans to SARS-CoV-2. We found that SARS-CoV-2 replicates poorly in dogs, pigs, chickens, and ducks, but efficiently in ferrets and cats. We found that the virus transmits in cats via respiratory droplets. Our study provides important insights into the animal reservoirs of SARS-CoV-2 and animal management for COVID-19 control.
Source: Susceptibility of ferrets, cats, dogs, and different domestic animals to SARS-coronavirus-2
Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) causes the infectious disease COVID-19, which was first reported in Wuhan, China in December, 2019. Despite the tremendous efforts to control the disease, COVID-19 has now spread to over 100 countries and caused a global pandemic. SARS-CoV- 2 is thought to have originated in bats; however, the intermediate animal sources of the virus are completely unknown. Here, we investigated the susceptibility of ferrets and animals in close contact with humans to SARS-CoV-2. We found that SARS-CoV-2 replicates poorly in dogs, pigs, chickens, and ducks, but efficiently in ferrets and cats. We found that the virus transmits in cats via respiratory droplets. Our study provides important insights into the animal reservoirs of SARS-CoV-2 and animal management for COVID-19 control.
Source: Susceptibility of ferrets, cats, dogs, and different domestic animals to SARS-coronavirus-2
Are you saying that you believe this jimmy?
Are cats and .... ferrets
.... actually carriers, or are you pointing out their poor science? I've often wondered why they say animals can't contract COVID from humans, but it apparently started with animals.
Cats and ferrets are both potential carriers of a number of viruses. My understanding is that so far we're not certain which animals can get infected with SARS-CoV-2 or how readily they can be infected. Obviously since this started in an animal population there's animals that can be infected, but the fact that infects bats and possibly some other mammals doesn't mean it has a high potential to infect the animals we're most prone to keeping in our homes.
Just like there's diseases that we can catch from animals but that aren't prone to being spread between humans, it's possible that some animals can catch this from us but not transmit it between each other.
From the sounds of Jimmy's article it appears that cats and ferrets can catch it from us and from other members of their species, meanwhile dogs, pigs and fowl don't become infected enough to spread it among themselves or back to us.
I'd imagine talking about 'animals' is an over-simplification and that you'd need to go species by species to have a real understanding of how it impacts non-human animals.
It's interesting that ferrets and cats can carry it but dogs can't, dogs and ferrets are much more closely related than either are to cats.
03 Apr 2020, 3:21 pm
IsabellaLinton wrote:
Are you saying that you believe this jimmy?
Are cats and .... ferrets .... actually carriers, or are you pointing out their poor science?
I've often wondered why they say animals can't contract COVID from humans, but it apparently started with animals.
Are cats and .... ferrets
.... actually carriers, or are you pointing out their poor science? I've often wondered why they say animals can't contract COVID from humans, but it apparently started with animals.
I don't know! The study needs to be replicated, preferably outside China. But it might explain the reports a few weeks ago of Chinese dropping pets from high buildings to their deaths.
03 Apr 2020, 3:25 pm
03 Apr 2020, 3:26 pm
03 Apr 2020, 3:29 pm
funeralxempire wrote:
IsabellaLinton wrote:
jimmy m wrote:
This is the abstract of a paper out of China:
Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) causes the infectious disease COVID-19, which was first reported in Wuhan, China in December, 2019. Despite the tremendous efforts to control the disease, COVID-19 has now spread to over 100 countries and caused a global pandemic. SARS-CoV- 2 is thought to have originated in bats; however, the intermediate animal sources of the virus are completely unknown. Here, we investigated the susceptibility of ferrets and animals in close contact with humans to SARS-CoV-2. We found that SARS-CoV-2 replicates poorly in dogs, pigs, chickens, and ducks, but efficiently in ferrets and cats. We found that the virus transmits in cats via respiratory droplets. Our study provides important insights into the animal reservoirs of SARS-CoV-2 and animal management for COVID-19 control.
Source: Susceptibility of ferrets, cats, dogs, and different domestic animals to SARS-coronavirus-2
Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) causes the infectious disease COVID-19, which was first reported in Wuhan, China in December, 2019. Despite the tremendous efforts to control the disease, COVID-19 has now spread to over 100 countries and caused a global pandemic. SARS-CoV- 2 is thought to have originated in bats; however, the intermediate animal sources of the virus are completely unknown. Here, we investigated the susceptibility of ferrets and animals in close contact with humans to SARS-CoV-2. We found that SARS-CoV-2 replicates poorly in dogs, pigs, chickens, and ducks, but efficiently in ferrets and cats. We found that the virus transmits in cats via respiratory droplets. Our study provides important insights into the animal reservoirs of SARS-CoV-2 and animal management for COVID-19 control.
Source: Susceptibility of ferrets, cats, dogs, and different domestic animals to SARS-coronavirus-2
Are you saying that you believe this jimmy?
Are cats and .... ferrets
.... actually carriers, or are you pointing out their poor science? I've often wondered why they say animals can't contract COVID from humans, but it apparently started with animals.
Cats and ferrets are both potential carriers of a number of viruses. My understanding is that so far we're not certain which animals can get infected with SARS-CoV-2 or how readily they can be infected. Obviously since this started in an animal population there's animals that can be infected, but the fact that infects bats and possibly some other mammals doesn't mean it has a high potential to infect the animals we're most prone to keeping in our homes.
Just like there's diseases that we can catch from animals but that aren't prone to being spread between humans, it's possible that some animals can catch this from us but not transmit it between each other.
From the sounds of Jimmy's article it appears that cats and ferrets can catch it from us and from other members of their species, meanwhile dogs, pigs and fowl don't become infected enough to spread it among themselves or back to us.
I'd imagine talking about 'animals' is an over-simplification and that you'd need to go species by species to have a real understanding of how it impacts non-human animals.
It's interesting that ferrets and cats can carry it but dogs can't, dogs and ferrets are much more closely related than either are to cats.
My cat has had some type of respiratory pneumonia for months. He actually has all the symptoms of COVID for humans.
I noticed the similarity some time ago and I've been giving him human antibiotics which help.
This article scared me because I've been wondering all along if there was an animal link.
I know that nothing's definitive but it's still pretty scary.
03 Apr 2020, 3:35 pm
03 Apr 2020, 3:36 pm
funeralxempire
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03 Apr 2020, 3:45 pm
IsabellaLinton wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
IsabellaLinton wrote:
jimmy m wrote:
This is the abstract of a paper out of China:
Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) causes the infectious disease COVID-19, which was first reported in Wuhan, China in December, 2019. Despite the tremendous efforts to control the disease, COVID-19 has now spread to over 100 countries and caused a global pandemic. SARS-CoV- 2 is thought to have originated in bats; however, the intermediate animal sources of the virus are completely unknown. Here, we investigated the susceptibility of ferrets and animals in close contact with humans to SARS-CoV-2. We found that SARS-CoV-2 replicates poorly in dogs, pigs, chickens, and ducks, but efficiently in ferrets and cats. We found that the virus transmits in cats via respiratory droplets. Our study provides important insights into the animal reservoirs of SARS-CoV-2 and animal management for COVID-19 control.
Source: Susceptibility of ferrets, cats, dogs, and different domestic animals to SARS-coronavirus-2
Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) causes the infectious disease COVID-19, which was first reported in Wuhan, China in December, 2019. Despite the tremendous efforts to control the disease, COVID-19 has now spread to over 100 countries and caused a global pandemic. SARS-CoV- 2 is thought to have originated in bats; however, the intermediate animal sources of the virus are completely unknown. Here, we investigated the susceptibility of ferrets and animals in close contact with humans to SARS-CoV-2. We found that SARS-CoV-2 replicates poorly in dogs, pigs, chickens, and ducks, but efficiently in ferrets and cats. We found that the virus transmits in cats via respiratory droplets. Our study provides important insights into the animal reservoirs of SARS-CoV-2 and animal management for COVID-19 control.
Source: Susceptibility of ferrets, cats, dogs, and different domestic animals to SARS-coronavirus-2
Are you saying that you believe this jimmy?
Are cats and .... ferrets
.... actually carriers, or are you pointing out their poor science? I've often wondered why they say animals can't contract COVID from humans, but it apparently started with animals.
Cats and ferrets are both potential carriers of a number of viruses. My understanding is that so far we're not certain which animals can get infected with SARS-CoV-2 or how readily they can be infected. Obviously since this started in an animal population there's animals that can be infected, but the fact that infects bats and possibly some other mammals doesn't mean it has a high potential to infect the animals we're most prone to keeping in our homes.
Just like there's diseases that we can catch from animals but that aren't prone to being spread between humans, it's possible that some animals can catch this from us but not transmit it between each other.
From the sounds of Jimmy's article it appears that cats and ferrets can catch it from us and from other members of their species, meanwhile dogs, pigs and fowl don't become infected enough to spread it among themselves or back to us.
I'd imagine talking about 'animals' is an over-simplification and that you'd need to go species by species to have a real understanding of how it impacts non-human animals.
It's interesting that ferrets and cats can carry it but dogs can't, dogs and ferrets are much more closely related than either are to cats.
My cat has had some type of respiratory pneumonia for months. He actually has all the symptoms of COVID for humans.
I noticed the similarity some time ago and I've been giving him human antibiotics which help.
This article scared me because I've been wondering all along if there was an animal link.
I know that nothing's definitive but it's still pretty scary.
Please don't give your cat human antibiotics, among reasons if it's SARS-CoV-2 they won't do anything because antibiotics can't target viral infections.
Further, not all animals metabolize drugs the same way, that's why dogs and cats die if they eat (too much) chocolate. The theobromine hits animals like that harder because they can't process it the same way as us. The same is true with horses but they're so big it's sometimes used as a performance enhancing drug.
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03 Apr 2020, 3:46 pm
funeralxempire wrote:
IsabellaLinton wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
IsabellaLinton wrote:
jimmy m wrote:
This is the abstract of a paper out of China:
Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) causes the infectious disease COVID-19, which was first reported in Wuhan, China in December, 2019. Despite the tremendous efforts to control the disease, COVID-19 has now spread to over 100 countries and caused a global pandemic. SARS-CoV- 2 is thought to have originated in bats; however, the intermediate animal sources of the virus are completely unknown. Here, we investigated the susceptibility of ferrets and animals in close contact with humans to SARS-CoV-2. We found that SARS-CoV-2 replicates poorly in dogs, pigs, chickens, and ducks, but efficiently in ferrets and cats. We found that the virus transmits in cats via respiratory droplets. Our study provides important insights into the animal reservoirs of SARS-CoV-2 and animal management for COVID-19 control.
Source: Susceptibility of ferrets, cats, dogs, and different domestic animals to SARS-coronavirus-2
Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) causes the infectious disease COVID-19, which was first reported in Wuhan, China in December, 2019. Despite the tremendous efforts to control the disease, COVID-19 has now spread to over 100 countries and caused a global pandemic. SARS-CoV- 2 is thought to have originated in bats; however, the intermediate animal sources of the virus are completely unknown. Here, we investigated the susceptibility of ferrets and animals in close contact with humans to SARS-CoV-2. We found that SARS-CoV-2 replicates poorly in dogs, pigs, chickens, and ducks, but efficiently in ferrets and cats. We found that the virus transmits in cats via respiratory droplets. Our study provides important insights into the animal reservoirs of SARS-CoV-2 and animal management for COVID-19 control.
Source: Susceptibility of ferrets, cats, dogs, and different domestic animals to SARS-coronavirus-2
Are you saying that you believe this jimmy?
Are cats and .... ferrets
.... actually carriers, or are you pointing out their poor science? I've often wondered why they say animals can't contract COVID from humans, but it apparently started with animals.
Cats and ferrets are both potential carriers of a number of viruses. My understanding is that so far we're not certain which animals can get infected with SARS-CoV-2 or how readily they can be infected. Obviously since this started in an animal population there's animals that can be infected, but the fact that infects bats and possibly some other mammals doesn't mean it has a high potential to infect the animals we're most prone to keeping in our homes.
Just like there's diseases that we can catch from animals but that aren't prone to being spread between humans, it's possible that some animals can catch this from us but not transmit it between each other.
From the sounds of Jimmy's article it appears that cats and ferrets can catch it from us and from other members of their species, meanwhile dogs, pigs and fowl don't become infected enough to spread it among themselves or back to us.
I'd imagine talking about 'animals' is an over-simplification and that you'd need to go species by species to have a real understanding of how it impacts non-human animals.
It's interesting that ferrets and cats can carry it but dogs can't, dogs and ferrets are much more closely related than either are to cats.
My cat has had some type of respiratory pneumonia for months. He actually has all the symptoms of COVID for humans.
I noticed the similarity some time ago and I've been giving him human antibiotics which help.
This article scared me because I've been wondering all along if there was an animal link.
I know that nothing's definitive but it's still pretty scary.
Please don't give your cat human antibiotics, among reasons if it's SARS-CoV-2 they won't do anything because antibiotics can't target viral infections.
Further, not all animals metabolize drugs the same way, that's why dogs and cats die if they eat (too much) chocolate.
It's with my vet's approval. No worries, I wouldn't just wing it. It's weighted and dosed properly and he's had the same med before from the vet.
funeralxempire
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03 Apr 2020, 3:49 pm
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03 Apr 2020, 4:38 pm
funeralxempire
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03 Apr 2020, 4:52 pm
jimmy m wrote:
I don't know! The study needs to be replicated, preferably outside China. But it might explain the reports a few weeks ago of Chinese dropping pets from high buildings to their deaths.
People get a little loopy after a few weeks caged up.
03 Apr 2020, 4:57 pm
IsabellaLinton wrote:
My cat has had some type of respiratory pneumonia for months. He actually has all the symptoms of COVID for humans.
I noticed the similarity some time ago and I've been giving him human antibiotics which help.
This article scared me because I've been wondering all along if there was an animal link.
I know that nothing's definitive but it's still pretty scary.
If your cat has had it for months,
If it is transferable,
If you, or your family, haven't contracted it,
I think it safe to say it isn't a problem.
But, of course, I am simply speculating.
If it was me, I wouldn't throw my cat out of a high building, yet.
