Page 272 of 538 [ 8600 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 269, 270, 271, 272, 273, 274, 275 ... 538  Next

jimmy m
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 30 Jun 2018
Age: 76
Gender: Male
Posts: 9,570
Location: Indiana

05 Apr 2020, 10:32 am

The World Health Organization produced an anemic response to this global pandemic. They passed on false information (such as this virus is not transmitted between humans). They dragged their feet in declaring it a national pandemic. IMHO (in my humble opinion) these missteps resulted in the rapid spread of the coronavirus globally and the death of thousands of people.

During the first half of January, when Chinese officials were underplaying the severity of the outbreak, no travelers from China were screened for potential exposure to the virus. Health screening began in mid-January, but only for a number of travelers who had been in Wuhan and only at the airports in Los Angeles, San Francisco and New York. By that time, about 4,000 people had already entered the United States directly from Wuhan, according to VariFlight, an aviation data company based in China. The measures were expanded to all passengers from China two weeks later.

The United States issued a travel ban from Wuhan and then all of China. The World Health Organization recommended against it.

So perhaps it might be beneficial to place the head of the organization, Dr. Tedros Adhonom Ghebreyesus, under a magnifying glass.


_________________
Author of Practical Preparations for a Coronavirus Pandemic.
A very unique plan. As Dr. Paul Thompson wrote, "This is the very best paper on the virus I have ever seen."


Last edited by jimmy m on 05 Apr 2020, 10:36 am, edited 2 times in total.

eikonabridge
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 25 Sep 2014
Age: 62
Gender: Male
Posts: 929

05 Apr 2020, 10:32 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Every essential worker in NYC is wearing a mask. Every store employee from what I’ve seen.

At least 3/4s of people in the streets are wearing masks.

Same in California, but don't tell that to cyberdad. He thinks non-hospital workers don't need to wear masks.


_________________
Jason Lu
http://www.eikonabridge.com/


Darmok
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 18 Dec 2015
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,030
Location: New England

05 Apr 2020, 10:39 am

Here we have a state government making major policy decisions that can devastate people's lives, and they won't allow the public the see the data behind those policy decisions. Is it any wonder that people think there's phony manipulation going on? When all the dust settles from this event, I think there will be a considerable loss of trust in the public health establishment, making it that much harder to deal with future threats.


State refuses to let public see local virus spread model

For the past few weeks, state health department officials have been working with an expert task force of physicians, researchers and mathematicians from local universities, to try to predict how the novel coronavirus spreading across the world might progress locally.

The group of specialists provided three reports to the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment, as of the end of last week, and Gov. Jared Polis presented some of the findings of the experts during a press conference Friday, March 27. Polis relayed some stark estimates during the press conference, with possible COVID-19 deaths in Colorado ranging from 900 to 33,200.

But CDPHE has so far refused to make public what the experts from the University of Colorado School of Public Health, School of Medicine and the University of Colorado at Boulder provided. And the agency has given conflicting explanations for why they won’t allow the public to see it.


https://gazette.com/news/local/state-re ... 710b5.html


_________________
 
There Are Four Lights!


eikonabridge
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 25 Sep 2014
Age: 62
Gender: Male
Posts: 929

05 Apr 2020, 10:45 am

jimmy m wrote:
So perhaps it might be beneficial to place the head of the organization, Dr. Tedros Adhonom Ghebreyesus, under a magnifying glass. ...

This guy has blood in his hands.


_________________
Jason Lu
http://www.eikonabridge.com/


jimmy m
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 30 Jun 2018
Age: 76
Gender: Male
Posts: 9,570
Location: Indiana

05 Apr 2020, 10:58 am

EzraS wrote:
Are you aware of the bad reputation that celebrity doctor [Dr. Mehmet Oz] has among the medical community?


Yes, but I believe in the power of redemption.


_________________
Author of Practical Preparations for a Coronavirus Pandemic.
A very unique plan. As Dr. Paul Thompson wrote, "This is the very best paper on the virus I have ever seen."


pyrrhicwren
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 2 Jan 2020
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,586

05 Apr 2020, 11:32 am

Darmok wrote:
Here we have a state government making major policy decisions that can devastate people's lives, and they won't allow the public the see the data behind those policy decisions. Is it any wonder that people think there's phony manipulation going on? When all the dust settles from this event, I think there will be a considerable loss of trust in the public health establishment, making it that much harder to deal with future threats.

strong point


_________________
HFA/ASP, Synesthaesia, Tic Disorder


ASPartOfMe
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 25 Aug 2013
Age: 67
Gender: Male
Posts: 36,894
Location: Long Island, New York

05 Apr 2020, 12:19 pm

South Korea's return to normal interrupted by uptick in coronavirus cases

Quote:
South Korea has been held up as a paragon for containing the coronavirus, lauded by the world for successfully flattening its curve, it is now bracing for a possible second wave.

But two worlds have emerged in South Korea. In one, everyday life resembles something closer to normal: There are lines outside restaurants during lunchtime; streets are busier; some wear masks and some do not.

The other world, however, keeps its eye firmly on the slight daily uptick in the country's number of cases.

Despite methods like early testing and digital tracing, South Korea is bracing itself for a second wave of infection. The government recently pushed back the new school year, opting for April 6 as the start date. Despite efforts to protect children from being infected with the coronavirus, over 83 percent of South Korea’s hagwons — cutthroat test prep centers for students — remain open.

With many parts of the world wondering what a slow return to normal life will look like, South Korea's situation offers a warning: The curve doesn’t necessarily stay flat.

The first wave of the coronavirus struck South Korea in mid-February after a “superspreader” from the Shincheonji Church in Daegu, a major city southeast of Seoul, infected worshippers during a service — a single case that infected more than 6,000 people.

Since then, with the swift implementation of nonpharmaceutical initiatives, like refraining from handshakes and diligently wearing masks, South Korea significantly reduced its number of daily cases from a peak of 909 in late February to as low as 76 and 64 in mid-March.

Despite this general decline, 125 new cases were reported last Monday — a slight increase from the previous day, at 78. The new stats also showed a rising death toll.

Local infection clusters have continued to set South Koreans on edge as case numbers fluctuate.

Most recently, a hospital in Daegu, the center of South Korea’s outbreak, experienced another cluster infection with at least 62 cases. Mannim Central Church in southwestern Seoul confirmed more positive tests, increasing their number to 33.

With these slight upticks, it’s clear that South Korea hasn’t fully contained the virus yet. But local clusters aren’t the only problem.

South Korea is simultaneously coping with an influx of travelers from Europe and the U.S., which has resulted in more than 518 imported cases.

How widespread an infection cluster has to be to be considered another “wave” varies. Some local media refer to South Korea’s first confirmed case on Jan. 20 involving a traveler from Wuhan to be the “first wave” and the Shincheonji outbreak to be the second.

Dr. Ki Moran, a professor at the National Cancer Center’s Graduate School of Cancer Science and Policy, said that even the slightest loosening of social distancing fosters the danger of triggering another mass wave.

“A wave occurs when you see an increase followed by a decrease in the number of cases, not just once, but the pattern should repeat itself again, which in this case it has,” Ki said. “Right now our greatest jeopardy is becoming complacent.”

In efforts to push back against this doubled burden, every new arrival as of April 1 will be placed in mandatory quarantine for 14 days, according to the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (KCDC). Those who fail to comply with regulations are subject to imprisonment for up to 1 year or may be fined up to 10 million won, whereas foreigners risk facing deportation.

How long can South Korea and the rest of the world live in isolation? In the United States alone, more than 3.3 million people filed for unemployment in a week, highlighting the toll this virus has taken on those who cannot afford isolation.

Ki said that South Korea is already planning ahead, brainstorming ways the country can practice “everyday distancing” that would introduce more sustainable lifestyle changes rather than temporary campaigns.

For instance, instead of having all children arrive and leave school at the same time, an alternative would be conducting half of the coursework online and half in-person to reduce the number of students in class. Rearranging lunch tables so students sit in a zig zag rather that adjacent to each other is also being taken into consideration.

But South Korea’s decision to further move back the start of the school year points to the continuous disruption that the coronavirus has inflicted.

“We can’t just delay the entire educational system for a year,” Ki said.

As of March 31, 9,786 total cases were confirmed in South Korea, moving the country down to 14th on the list of countries with COVID-19 cases.

“Hoping that a vaccine will be developed soon is too optimistic, ” Ki said. “We have to acknowledge the reality of the situation we are in and make a plan.”


_________________
Professionally Identified and joined WP August 26, 2013
DSM 5: Autism Spectrum Disorder, DSM IV: Aspergers Moderate Severity

“My autism is not a superpower. It also isn’t some kind of god-forsaken, endless fountain of suffering inflicted on my family. It’s just part of who I am as a person”. - Sara Luterman


Darmok
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 18 Dec 2015
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,030
Location: New England

05 Apr 2020, 12:27 pm

In vitro results only so far. But promising. (No word on whether it would work in the northern hemisphere where the molecular gravity is reversed...)


Coronavirus Can be Stopped in 48 Hours Using a Simple Anti-Parasitic Drug: Monash University

Amid a barrage of research on finding treatment for new coronavirus, Australian scientists have found that a common anti-parasitic drug killed SARS-CoV-2 virus, growing in cell culture, within 48 hours in lab settings. Ivermectin is an FDA-approved anti-parasitic drug that has also been shown to be effective in vitro against a broad range of viruses including HIV, dengue, influenza and Zika virus.

Published in the journal Antiviral Research, the study from Monash University showed that a single dose of Ivermectin could stop the coronavirus growing in cell culture -- effectively eradicating all genetic material of the virus within two days. "We found that even a single dose could essentially remove all viral RNA by 48 hours and that even at 24 hours there was a really significant reduction in it," said study lead author Dr Kylie Wagstaff.

Dr Wagstaff, however, cautioned that the tests conducted in the study were in vitro and that trials needed to be carried out in people. "Ivermectin is very widely used and seen as a safe drug. We need to figure out now whether the dosage you can use it at in humans will be effective - that's the next step," Wagstaff informed. In times when we're having a global pandemic and there isn't an approved treatment, "if we had a compound that was already available around the world then that might help people sooner".


https://in.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-s ... 00205.html


_________________
 
There Are Four Lights!


funeralxempire
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 27 Oct 2014
Age: 40
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 30,804
Location: Right over your left shoulder

05 Apr 2020, 12:33 pm

jimmy m wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Are you aware of the bad reputation that celebrity doctor [Dr. Mehmet Oz] has among the medical community?


Yes, but I believe in the power of redemption.


Doesn't he need to make an attempt to redeem himself? The man is an expert in his field (cardiothoracic surgery) but he's also wide-regarded as a quack outside of that field. He'll need to stop peddling quackery and pseudoscience for awhile before he can be 'redeemed'.


_________________
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
They have a name for Nazis that were only Nazis because of economic anxiety or similar issues. They're called Nazis.


jimmy m
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 30 Jun 2018
Age: 76
Gender: Male
Posts: 9,570
Location: Indiana

05 Apr 2020, 12:51 pm

New York state has seen its first drop in daily coronavirus deaths, Gov. Andrew Cuomo announced Sunday. Cuomo said New York also experienced a slight drop in intensive care admissions and the number of patients who need breathing tubes inserted. The hospital discharge rate is "way up" he said, calling it "great news."

“You could argue that you are seeing a plateauing,” Cuomo told reporters on Sunday, as he revealed that the state had reported 594 new coronavirus deaths -- down from the 630 reported on Saturday and the 562 on Friday. At least 4,159 people have died in the state so far, with approximately 122,000 total positive cases.

Source: New York has first daily drop in coronavirus deaths, Cuomo announces, as military heads to NYC


_________________
Author of Practical Preparations for a Coronavirus Pandemic.
A very unique plan. As Dr. Paul Thompson wrote, "This is the very best paper on the virus I have ever seen."


jimmy m
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 30 Jun 2018
Age: 76
Gender: Male
Posts: 9,570
Location: Indiana

05 Apr 2020, 12:59 pm

Enough is enough. New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo needs to IMMEDIATELY lift his pharmacy ban that is forcing New Yorkers stricken by the coronavirus into an already overburdened hospital system to get the potentially life-saving drug hydroxychloroquine.

Because of an executive order issued by the Democratic governor, any new prescriptions for hydroxychloroquine must go through the already overrun hospital system. This makes no sense.

Sources tell me that Cuomo has access to MILLIONS of doses of hydroxychloroquine right now. The federal government has tens of millions of doses and has made millions of doses available to the New York governor.

I live on Long Island and many doctors are telling me that they want to prescribe this medication to their patients who test positive for COVID-19 – the disease caused by the coronavirus – but do NOT need the patient to come to a hospital. However, Cuomo’s executive order forbids pharmacies from filling the prescriptions.

The governor is creating a much bigger crisis in his state’s hospital system by denying New Yorkers THE CHOICE (in consultation with their doctors) to take this potentially life-saving medication.

Gov. Cuomo, stop denying New Yorkers hydroxychloroquine


_________________
Author of Practical Preparations for a Coronavirus Pandemic.
A very unique plan. As Dr. Paul Thompson wrote, "This is the very best paper on the virus I have ever seen."


jimmy m
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 30 Jun 2018
Age: 76
Gender: Male
Posts: 9,570
Location: Indiana

05 Apr 2020, 1:12 pm

Spain on Sunday morning saw both the smallest increase in death toll from the coronavirus in nine days and the smallest increase in the number of infections since the outbreak first began, health officials said.

The death toll in Spain stood at 12,418 people Sunday, up by 674 within the past 24 hours, marking the lowest increase in fatalities in nine days, the country’s health ministry said.

Heeding the advice of the World Health Organization, countries including Austria, the Czech Republic, Israel and Turkey have required all residents to wear a mask in most public places.

Source: Spain records smallest rate of increase in coronavirus infections since start of crisis


_________________
Author of Practical Preparations for a Coronavirus Pandemic.
A very unique plan. As Dr. Paul Thompson wrote, "This is the very best paper on the virus I have ever seen."


Syd
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 23 Dec 2007
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,280

05 Apr 2020, 1:28 pm

"Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no! And it ain't over now. 'Cause when the goin' gets tough...the tough get goin'!"

- Roberta McCain, 108-year-old mother of John McCain



Wolfram87
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 14 Feb 2015
Age: 37
Gender: Male
Posts: 4,976
Location: Sweden

05 Apr 2020, 1:31 pm

Ah yes, the famous German bombing of Pearl Harbour...


_________________
I'm bored out of my skull, let's play a different game. Let's pay a visit down below and cast the world in flame.


funeralxempire
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 27 Oct 2014
Age: 40
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 30,804
Location: Right over your left shoulder

05 Apr 2020, 1:38 pm

Wolfram87 wrote:
Ah yes, the famous German bombing of Pearl Harbour...


Don't you remember, it was right after the Japanese invaded France.


_________________
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
They have a name for Nazis that were only Nazis because of economic anxiety or similar issues. They're called Nazis.


jimmy m
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 30 Jun 2018
Age: 76
Gender: Male
Posts: 9,570
Location: Indiana

05 Apr 2020, 2:15 pm

I think Syd is trying to inject some (Animal House) humor into the thread.

D-Day (Bruce McGill): "War's over, man. Wormer dropped the big one

Bluto: What? Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!...

It ain't over now, 'cause when the goin' gets tough, the tough get goin'. Who's with me? Let's go! Come on!...(He ran to the front door but no one followed him)

Bluto (returning): What the f--k happened to the Delta I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? This could be the greatest night of our lives, but you're gonna let it be the worst. 'Ooh, we're afraid to go with you, Bluto, we might get in trouble.' (shouting) Well, just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Wormer, he's a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer...

Otter (Tim Matheson): Dead! Bluto's right. Psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now, we could fight 'em with conventional weapons. That could take years and cost millions of lives. No, in this case, I think we have to go all out. I think this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part.

We're just the guys to do it...LET'S DO IT!

Source: John Belushi: 'Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?', Bluto's Big Speech - 1980


_________________
Author of Practical Preparations for a Coronavirus Pandemic.
A very unique plan. As Dr. Paul Thompson wrote, "This is the very best paper on the virus I have ever seen."