Emergence of a Deadly Coronavirus

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NEWS FLASH!

Australia may have reached its peak!
This time around.

He did not give medical advice in the legal sense, and I'm not suggesting that he did.

The vast majority of his followers did not, however for a certain portion of low information folks within his fandom his words have more influence then pretty much any other politician (Sanders would be one of the few other people who's trusted to the same degree). Most other politicians (including Sanders) would be far more measured in how they discuss a potential treatment instead of talking about it like they're on between Billy Mays and the ShamWow guy. He has an ongoing pattern of his rhetoric contributing to stupid and potentially unstable people doing stupid things.

You're welcome to not believe it but seem to forget that not everyone values knowledge and research over being swayed by charismatic people we like. I don't think you'd do something like this, I believe there's people who would because up until s**t hit the fan I worked with generally low information people who valued Trump's opinion over pretty much anything else, I worked with people who bragged about how they were all mass home-schooling their kids at the pastor's house the day after the schools were shut down and received a lecture about colloidal silver and how vaccines ruin our immune systems when I suggested that might not be a good idea. You're not stupid, I'd like to believe that I'm not either, but that doesn't mean everyone isn't.

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I just got a mental picture of Australia dancing in a dark room with glow sticks.

Untz Untz Untz Untz

Coronavirus disease 2019: why do some people live, and some people die after three days? (The original was in French in Le Monde. I read the Chinese version on RFI, but people could translate into English on their browsers.)

https://www.lemonde.fr/sante/article/2020/04/02/comment-j-ai-attrape-ca-j-avais-pourtant-pris-toutes-les-mesures-le-journal-d-un-medecin-de-campagne-victime-du-coronavirus_6035259_1651302.html

http://www.rfi.fr/tw/%E6%B3%95%E5%9C%8B/20200402-2019%E5%86%A0%E7%8B%80%E7%97%85%E6%AF%92%E7%97%85-%E7%82%BA%E4%BB%80%E9%BA%BC%E6%9C%89%E7%9A%84%E4%BA%BA%E8%83%BD%E6%B4%BB%EF%BC%8C%E6%9C%89%E7%9A%84%E4%BA%BA%E4%B8%89%E5%A4%A9%E4%B9%8B%E5%BE%8C%E5%B0%B1%E6%AD%BB%E4%BA%86%E5%91%A2

... By Monday, March 23, Dr. Pollet had a high fever of 41 degrees. He had no energy at all, but his breathing was normal. The test report finally came down. He was infected with the 2019 coronavirus, and his wife was not infected. He knows that the next few days are crucial. He wants to be healed on the weekend. No symptoms will appear next Monday and Tuesday. He can go back to work on April 1.

What did Dr. Pollet do? He said in his diary that he felt that the virus had not invaded his lungs. He refused to use hydroxychloroquine sulfate tablets. He felt that Professor Haur’s research was unreliable, and that hydroxychloroquine sulfate tablets had side effects that would damage the heart.

... By Saturday, March 28, the condition had deteriorated. Dr. Pollet needs oxygen. Immediately, he called the dedicated line 15 and an ambulance took him to the University Medical Center in Besançon. At this time, the news of the death of the former French Minister of Economy, Finance and Industry, Patrick Devedjian, made Dr. Pollet very scared. Devedjian tweeted three days ago that although he was exhausted, his condition was fairly stable.

On Sunday, March 29, Dr. Pollet spent the night in the infectious ward of the hospital. His body temperature is 39 ° C, oxygen is infused, but his mood is okay. He is already using antibiotics and hydroxychloroquine sulfate tablets.

By Tuesday, March 31, Dr. Pollet got better and he was discharged the next day.

Another success story of hydroxychloroquine (sulfate) in conjunction with antibiotics. And this story came from a doctor that was skeptic about hydroxychloroquine.

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Hoowa!

Thanks for the response Pepe, Cyberdad. It seemed a bit hyped up.

There is a lot of conflicting advice (a variety of 7/20 day guidelines) and obviously scant research at this stage on the length of the contagious period for C-19.

Anyone aware of solid information about how long Covid 19 is contagious for?

It does vary greatly. I did look at this article:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2196-x_reference.pdf

The plots in Fig. 1 should give you a vague idea. I would say it is contagious from day 4 through day 17, or about 2 weeks. Other people might interpret the same plots differently.

R0 of COVID-19 is around 3. That means, on the average, a patient infects 3 people during a 14 day span. If you think about it, this virus is really not that contagious. We can win over this virus, if people really follow the guidelines.

I would say it does not appear very contagious considering there are 69k cases out of 8 billion people. In the US 1% of the population has contracted it according to the figures.

Thank you for that, I've been erring on the side of caution and glad of it too, I know for certain that I haven't spread it to anyone.

It has been manageable through isolation/social distancing, I think if we place significant value on older age groups and the vulnerable in society it helps tremendously as a motivator.

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That seems high enough to me, without accounting for the under testing occurring/ has occurred in the majority of countries. Then the asymptomatic people...
When we have had a chance to play catch up, instead of the current knee jerk damage limitation mode, a truer picture of those with immunity will emerge.

According to the figures I see, in the US, there are 0.1% confirmed cases, not 1%.
Graphs for particular states would be useful, as they are on different stages of the epidemic.
In Italy, where the healthcare system collapsed, there are 0.2% of confirmed cases nationwide.

There's also it's 1.2 million cases. Not 69k. That's the boo boo I expected to get called on. Sometimes I'm not fully awake when I post in the wee hours.

In 2018 the US had 45 million flu cases and 810,000 flu related hospitalizations. I have a feeling there aren't many headlines from then saying the healthcare system was on the verge collapsing over that.

Good.

I am not going to hold my breath, but it might, at least, put a muzzle on chinese/ccp apologists/lap-dogs.
But then again, it might make them bark louder. <woof>