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06 Apr 2020, 12:33 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
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Thousands of businesses go under.

Millions are without a living.

And all the myriad other things that go with that.

People will be too busy struggling to survive to have flu shots and hand washing on their mind.

Especially when they realize their plight was caused by global hysteria.

If that is how it pans out.


It was inevitable from the get-go. I remember saying that before. I don't understand the people getting out their boredom by shopping online for unnecessary things. It's going to be Great Depression level or worse. I'm gonna have to be like my grandmother and make the most from very little.

The worst is XH refuses to help with kids even though he is supposed to on weekends as we signed om... and nothing of this affects him as he has a free nanny.
And everytime I ask him to split weekends at least...as we signed on... he says tell your lawyer to file for court...
Knowing, too, that even if I were stupid enough to go to court for basic rights....courts are CLOSED


Blooie keep a record of all these cancellations by your XH, with evidence if possible (email / text screenshots). When and if you do go back to court, I hope he will need to pay for you to have respite services and a full-time caregiver in lieu of his participation as a decent parent with half a heart. I know it's hard, but one day the parenting schedule will be largely irrelevant when your boys are old enough to demonstrate their loyalty to you -- their Super Mother. They won't want to see him regardless of what's ordered. Actions speak louder than court orders.

You go, Girl.


Ok. It just messes with me because he refused to let me study or work... He ordered me around so I had no say in anything inc having kids or not.. And now Its on me to make the most of the next few years while watching kids and catch up while he still trashes my attempts, any chance he gets.


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06 Apr 2020, 12:36 pm

https://globalnews.ca/news/6759218/albe ... n-layoffs/

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/education/ ... e-n1172906


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06 Apr 2020, 12:43 pm

Hugs to you, Blooie! You're hero.


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06 Apr 2020, 12:54 pm

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The good news is the deaths in NY seem to be leveling off so the steps being taken to slow the virus is starting to work but if they stop the steps too soon the risk of infections and deaths to starting climb at a higher rate again is high.


Hopefully it will stabilize. I have noticed from graphs of other pandemics it can go up and down quite a bit before peaking and finally going on a permanent downtrend.

NY is already at +599 for today. Yesterday the final was 594. But I don't think it works out that exactly that number died on that day. More like that's how many tabulations came in that day. However the 500's in a big improvement from the 1000's.



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06 Apr 2020, 1:04 pm

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The good news is ...
The "good" news is that only about 0.105% of the total USA population is confirmed to be infected so far...

The bad news is that there's a 35.3% Mortality rate vs. 64.7% Recovery rate for those confirmed to be infected with CoViD-19.



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06 Apr 2020, 1:14 pm

blooiejagwa wrote:
Ok. It just messes with me because he refused to let me study or work... He ordered me around so I had no say in anything inc having kids or not.. And now Its on me to make the most of the next few years while watching kids and catch up while he still trashes my attempts, any chance he gets.


Yes. But you don't need to go into debt writing legal letters every time he screws up. Your fees will outweigh any money you ever get from him, and his participation with the boys will wain out of spite toward you. Save up your evidence for long periods of time and then you can demonstrate a pattern all at once with more effect. I wouldn't recommend fighting for someone to spend time with my child against their will, or if they're known to make false promises. Chasing him can burn out your emotional resilience, make the boys develop an insecure attachment to him (e.g., anxiety), and exhaust you from the excellent work you already do. Lean on your family and the people who love you all.

Court orders aren't enforced and the stress / debt will only hurt you all in the long run.

Just my two cents worth, but I really worry about you.

Document, document, document ... but don't buy your lawyer a new car.

* sorry for derailing *


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06 Apr 2020, 1:19 pm

Publisher: Study Touting Hydroxychloroquine as COVID-19 Cure Doesn’t Meet ‘Standard’

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A study that touted the anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine as an effective treatment for the novel coronavirus has drawn new concern from the group that publishes the journal in which the work first appeared.

In a statement last week, the International Society of Antimicrobial Chemotherapy (ISAC) said the study in question did not meet its standard— but did not go into many details as to why.

“ISAC shares the concerns regarding the above article published recently in the International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents (IJAA). The ISAC Board believes the article does not meet the Society’s expected standard, especially relating to the lack of better explanations of the inclusion criteria and the triage of patients to ensure patient safety,” the notice read. The notice was first reported by Retraction Watch.

ISAC’s notice acknowledged some criticisms of the study posted online regarding its potentially rushed peer-review. However, the society said the study’s process did “adhere to the industry’s peer-review rules.”

The study, led by the University of Marseille’s Didier Raoult, concluded that hydroxychloroquine treatment was “significantly associated” in reducing and eliminating the virus in COVID-19 patients. The addition of azithromycin to the treatment led to it being “significantly more efficient for virus elimination.”

The study reported testing 36 French COVID-19 patients in March, with the majority of them showing upper respiratory tract infection symptoms. They received 600mg of hydroxychloroquine daily, and were tested every day via nasal swabs. The addition of azithromycin to the treatment depended on patients’ “clinical presentation.”

President Trump has publicly touted hydroxychloroquine as a potential cure for COVID-19, telling reporters Sunday that the drug was “great” and there were “signs that it works on this, some very strong signs.” He’s also called for the Indian prime minister to release more of the drug to the U.S. just as the country placed a ban on the export of the drug.

According to CNN, the president also lauded the azithromycin addition to the hydroxychloroquine treatment, claiming azithromycin would “kill certain things that you don’t want living within your body.”

Trump started publicly mentioning hydroxychloroquine after Fox News guests and hosts began mentioning it on-air last month. On March 16, a guest on The Ingraham Angle specifically mentioned Raoult’s study days before it published.

“Within a matter of six days, the patients taking hydroxychloroquine tested negative for coronavirus, COVID-19,” Gregory Rigano—identified as a co-author of a study on chloroquine—told host Laura Ingraham. “This is a well-controlled study.”

Mehmet Oz, the TV doctor who has been advising Trump administration officials on coronavirus-related issues, also has publicly praised the study on Fox–calling Raoult a “well-respected French physician who’s done a lot of this work” and stating that the study’s “statistical significance” needed to be taken seriously.

“If it takes me 30,000 patients to show a difference, is that better than showing a difference in 62 patients? If a small trial demonstrates statistically significant differences, you should respect it,” Oz told host Brian Kilmede on Monday. “At least pay attention to it.”


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06 Apr 2020, 1:22 pm

I feel everyone has a right to their own opinion. And my opinion on the origin of the Spanish Flu Pandemic of 1918-1919 is at variance with current accepted theory. The Spanish Flu pandemic is very different than the yearly Influenza pandemic in that instead of targeting the elderly or the very young, it killed the healthy able bodied and young adults. [An unusual characteristic of this virus was the high death rate it caused among healthy adults 15 to 34 years of age.]

In my opinion, the infection transferred from horses to humans through aerosolization of horse manure and spread by strong winds into the throats of young soldiers.

A couple of decades ago, scientists obtained a sample of the virus from an Inuit woman who contracted the disease and died and was buried in the permafrost of Alaska. They sequenced the genetic structure and noted that the virus had a number of mammalian as opposed to avian adaptations. The gene sequencing coding was placed on-line and I had a chance to view it at the time. [Refer to The Deadliest Flu: The Complete Story of the Discovery and Reconstruction of the 1918 Pandemic Virus] What I observed was that large portions of the coding matched equine (horse sequencing).

In the First World War, not only were the young men drafted into becoming soldiers but also a large portion of the horse population. There were an estimated 20 million horses in March 1915 in the United States. A USDA census in 1959 showed the horse population had dropped to 4.5 million. Numbers began to rebound somewhat, and by 1968 there were about 7 million horses, mostly used for riding. In 2005, there were about 9 million horses.

The following is a narrative of the origin of the pandemic:
* One day in the spring of 1918, soldiers at [Camp Funston in] Fort Riley, Kansas, burned tons of horse manure. A choking dust storm kicked up and swept over the prairie. The sky went black and all the soldiers at Fort Riley ran for cover. The storm raged for hours, then suddenly it stopped. Fort Riley was covered with a dense shroud of dirt and ash. The soldiers were ordered to clean up the mess. They worked long past midnight, sweeping, raking, shoveling, and coughing.
* On Monday March 11, 1918 - two days after the dust storm - Private Albert Gitchell, a cook, reported to the camp hospital before breakfast. He had a fever, sore throat, and headache. The symptoms indicated just a normal flu, however by noon that same day the hospital had 107 cases reported. Within the next month, the hospital saw well over a thousand.
* Many soldiers perished from influenza that spring. The cause of death was recorded as pneumonia in every case. The symptoms were highly unusual, including labored breathing, violent coughs, and projectile nosebleeds. Faces would turn an ashen blue. They often had high fevers, and their bodily functions were depressed. Autopsies revealed widespread bloody hemorrhage and swelling of the lungs. Patients literally suffocated from their bloody, fluid-filled lungs. Young, healthy men became sick and died within a matter of days, sometimes only hours. The people who influenza usually spared were dying of this flu.
[Source: Lynette Iezzoni, Influenza 1918 (New York: TVBooks L.L.C., 1999)]


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06 Apr 2020, 1:38 pm

I seen someone who looked liked they maybe infected a 4 days ago never know it could have been several of the health issues COPD or LC etc. The guy looked to be in his 60s and he looked like death warmed over looked like he was getting out of breath easy and had this continuous dry nagging cough. he keep coughing into a handkerchief every time he coughed.


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06 Apr 2020, 1:53 pm

Hypothesis: Any news story that uses the verb "tout," as in "Trump touted," may be safely dismissed as political hackery.


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06 Apr 2020, 1:56 pm

The mortality rate for COVID-19 is not 35%......even among people with underlying conditions.

It’s about 3.75% in NYC, even counting the more than 90% who had underlying conditions.

There have been around 10,000 deaths among around 350,000 confirmed cases. For the most part, only people with relatively serious symptoms are tested.



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06 Apr 2020, 1:59 pm

Jimmy posted this same account about a week or two ago.

It’s part of a larger account which was excellent.

In my opinion, when all is said and done, I feel the mortality rate will turn out to be 1% or so. That’s 10 times the mortality rate of “regular” flu.



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06 Apr 2020, 2:33 pm

The U.S. is in a good position to rebuild after the crisis. We have the Federal Reserve, economic diversity, a large population of young workers, labor market flexibility, adaptability, leading tech and medical industries, corporate leaders, a good international reputation, etc. We've done it before, and we'll do it again. The resilience index below provides some insight, but we have to weigh which countries are heavily reliant on tourism and other travel-based industries, over-dependent on foreign commerce, foreign aid, and lots of other factors. Also which countries are handling the crisis appropriately, and who will face sanctions and other consequences in the years ahead.

https://www.fmglobal.com/research-and-r ... ata/?&vd=1



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06 Apr 2020, 3:56 pm

19 companies that are working on treatments or vaccines

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/these ... 2020-03-06



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06 Apr 2020, 4:36 pm

Will a coronavirus vaccine be effective?

There is a vaccine every year for the flu.

Yet, in the US, 2018-2019 season's 34,200 flu-related deaths.

If coronavirus is so much deadlier, will a vaccine be effective?


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06 Apr 2020, 5:34 pm

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Will a coronavirus vaccine be effective?

There is a vaccine every year for the flu.

Yet, in the US, 2018-2019 season's 34,200 flu-related deaths.

If coronavirus is so much deadlier, will a vaccine be effective?


It depends on some factors. First, there are two stains of this Coronavirus. If a vaccine is developed, it may only work well against one version of the strains. This is what typically happens with flu shots. Second, the vaccine has to help the person’s immune system fight off the virus. It instead may trigger the immune system of a person to attack itself, which weakens the defenses of the person to infections. Third, the virus may mutate in vivo or in vitro into a new form that is vastly different than what the original vaccine was developed for. For example, chemotherapeutic drug exposure may play into a change of the RNA of the virus inside the body. Fourth, if people can become infected with different strains of the virus, their immune systems may become overloaded and trigger a potential reaction (much like an allergy attack). There are more factors at play, but I digress.