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07 Apr 2020, 4:56 am

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April is supposed to be the time it is at it's worst. Of course if that doesn't happen Fauci's magical models will say May. And then June.
Only if we remain on the climbing side of the curve.


Unless they take a lengthy wait and see approach. Or they decide that ending the lockdowns will start it back up again and there needs to be a three month safty net.

What I doubt happening any time soon is them admitting that the virus only affects a tiny portion of the population. Maybe as little as 1% and all other cases are asymptomatic to nearly asymptomatic, if that is the case.

For one thing it would mean bad orange man was right about them overreacting. And we sure as **** can't let that happen.



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07 Apr 2020, 5:00 am

With alternating of heavy lockdowns and complete releases, you're likely to get the "best" form both sides - severe economic depression AND heavy impact of the disease.


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07 Apr 2020, 6:10 am

323 Covid19 caused deaths so far in Canada. There are provinces that have 0 deaths related to it.

16,653 confirmed cases.
Ontario has 4,347 confirmed cases and 132 deaths.
The fact is that confirmed cases are only possible with tests --
and tests since this started, have been given almost solely to the most severe presentation of symptoms.

So the actual number will total to much more.


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07 Apr 2020, 6:31 am

The ones who don’t get tested are most probably the less severe cases—where the likelihood of deaths is even less than among people in serious-enough condition to be tested.

Obviously, there are many non-tested folks out there. Only about 1 in 170 people have been tested in the United States. So, there are probably many mild and asymptomatic cases all over the place...some of whom have already recovered.

But....the rate of positive tests is 20% nationwide, these results skewed heavily towards certain hotspots. Most states have 15% or less positive results.

In Canada, about 1 in 100 have been tested. The rate of positive tests is between 5 and 6%. The virus hasn’t penetrated Canada as much as it’s invaded the US.

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07 Apr 2020, 6:35 am

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The ones who don’t get tested are most probably the less severe cases—where the likelihood of deaths is even less than among people in serious-enough condition to be tested.


Yes. I mean the difference between cases to deaths is even greater in reality....


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07 Apr 2020, 6:39 am

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The ones who don’t get tested are most probably the less severe cases—where the likelihood of deaths is even less than among people in serious-enough condition to be tested.

How is NY doing? Any news Mrs Kraftie brings home?
We don't have much deaths here but our healthcare system is collapsing anyway due to panic and poor organisation.


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07 Apr 2020, 6:44 am

New York’s deaths per day has stabilized. But still way too many. The rate of new cases has gone down, possibly due to a decline in testing.



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07 Apr 2020, 6:46 am

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Climate activist of course. With dreams of global socialism.



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07 Apr 2020, 6:50 am

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With alternating of heavy lockdowns and complete releases, you're likely to get the "best" form both sides - severe economic depression AND heavy impact of the disease.


Provided tens of millions weren't already infected with no impact.



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07 Apr 2020, 6:50 am

In terms of people’s health, we probably need more “global socialism.”

I don’t believe, overall, in socialism as a political system.



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07 Apr 2020, 6:55 am

The COVID19 cases are separated from others in my wife’s
nursing home. There are more deaths than usual. There doesn’t seem to be panic and overcrowding there, though.



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07 Apr 2020, 6:56 am

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In terms of people’s health, we probably need more “global socialism.”

I don’t believe, overall, in socialism as a political system.


But many do. And they are looking at this as a golden opportunity.



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07 Apr 2020, 6:58 am

EzraS wrote:
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With alternating of heavy lockdowns and complete releases, you're likely to get the "best" form both sides - severe economic depression AND heavy impact of the disease.


Provided tens of millions weren't already infected with no impact.

Probably tens of millions have been already infected with no impact.
And hundreds of thousands have been already infected with some impact that will become visible in 2-3 weeks.


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07 Apr 2020, 7:05 am

magz wrote:
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With alternating of heavy lockdowns and complete releases, you're likely to get the "best" form both sides - severe economic depression AND heavy impact of the disease.


Provided tens of millions weren't already infected with no impact.

Probably tens of millions have been already infected with no impact.
And hundreds of thousands have been already infected with some impact that will become visible in 2-3 weeks.


In other words an overall low impact run of the mill virus.