Emergence of a Deadly Coronavirus

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This event is turning out to be every dictator's dream. Want to know what your government is doing in these troubled times? That information is deemed "non-essential" (by the government itself), so they aren't going to tell you what they're doing.


Chicago Temporarily Blocks Freedom of Information Act Requests
Mayor Lightfoot deemed Freedom of Information Act requests a non-essential city operation and banned them until further notice in response to COVID-19. Many disapprove, complaining “People need to have trust in their government.”

(TNS) — Citing a smaller workforce due to the coronavirus outbreak, the city of Chicago, Ill., said it will automatically deny all Freedom of Information Act requests submitted by the public — effectively casting a shroud of secrecy over the inner workings of local government.

The state’s public records law is designed to give citizens access to records that detail how government works beyond what officials volunteer at news conferences and in other public settings. Experts say it’s a key tool for holding government officials accountable.

But Mayor Lori Lightfoot’s administration on Wednesday responded to a FOIA request with an automated denial that said, “Freedom of Information Act responses have been deemed a non-essential city operation and are being temporarily suspended until further notice,” raising concerns about the city’s handling of public documents.

https://www.governing.com/security/Chic ... uests.html

I was thinking that was more on a personal level. Minimalism less rush buying to display affection more family oriented lives etc

That writer is from a page about gardening to reduce dependence on store bought foods and save money.

I wonder what sort of predictions Dr. Fauci made regarding SARS, MERS, Swine Flu, Ebola etc. I bet it would be interesting to find out.

It's funny how when someone is talking about reducing hoarding greed etc making a life about consumerism to the point of insanity people automatically assume the alternative is Communism and socialism

Not really.
The number of deaths in heavily impacted countries is statistically significant.
Take UK. Their crude death rate is 9.2. That means, the number of people annually die in the UK is
9.2/1000*(66.65 million)=613180
That means, on average, there are 613180/365=1680 "regular" deaths in the UK.
Additional 500-600 coronavirus deaths a day is significant, neither "run of the mill" nor Armageddon but definitely serious. .

The problem is, the impact is not immediate so the time to prevent it is before it's visible.

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It is the 'stitch a new garment' line that sounds like socialism.

I would like it if those who want global socialism to be the outcome of the virus lockdowns, would just say so plainly.

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I totally agree. Like you can be either a greedy consummerist or bloody commie, no other possibilities to explore.

Because a lot of the time it is.

But how many of those deaths coincide with the normal mortality rate? In other words is it in addition to or part of? What have been the total number of all daily deaths pre-coronavirus?

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There are certainly quite a few extra hospital admissions and deaths in NYC.

This is no run-of-the-mill “flu.”

What are the figures pre-covid?

Data from March not yet gathered. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... lresidence

Unfortunately, the well-processed data will become available only after it's all over.

I got an information that in some parts of Italy, overall mortality is about twice the normal. That would roughly fit the nationwide data. I will give update when I find the source.

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They’re not bringing in refrigerator trucks as morgues just for the hell of it....

There is an article in nbcnewyork.com which addresses how the spike in emergency room visits and hospital admissions in NYC coincided with the arrival of the novel Coronavirus in NYC.

“Hospital Stats Shed Best Light On Exactly When Novel Coronavirus Arrived in New York City.” 3/20/20

More (locally). https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/artic ... death-toll
Bergamo had in previous Marches slightly over 200 deaths, this March it's over 800.

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I think maybe a lot of people are under the impression that every person who had covid19 put on their death certificate were in an ICU on a ventilator. But I don't think that is the case. I think probably many were at home, already in a nursing home, hospice, already in a regular hospital room for something else. I have heard of people at the end of their life from a terminal illness like stage 4 cancer technically dying of respiratory failure.