Emergence of a Deadly Coronavirus
Unconfirmed reports that Wuhan Corona virus sufferers have been stuffed in body bags while still alive and unconfirmed reports of screams emanating from crematoria with the assumption that people considered lost causes are being burned alive.
Radio Free Asia article
Radio Free Asia article
WTF I won't click that link but are you serious?
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"Prosperity Gospel" is not a phenomenon here... again, culture. While some greed is likely inevitable, capitalism + consumerism seem to have made it some kind of a moral value, ultimate goal of life. It doesn't have to be this way.
Star Trek is a fantasy that explores possible directions of further development of culture.
It's a general role of fiction, to explore topics.
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Really, church is probably the only place where I can socialize in person to some extent without actually getting involved in other people's lives, and by the time I start feeling anxious about being in a crowded place, it's time to go home.
So it's not all bad.
Really, church is probably the only place where I can socialize in person to some extent without actually getting involved in other people's lives, and by the time I start feeling anxious about being in a crowded place, it's time to go home.
So it's not all bad.
Based on your exchanges with Mr Greatshield, there is rather more to it than you admitted above

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Back on Page 4 of this thread on 25 January, I noted the importance of controlling indoor humidity levels in order to limit the spread of the coronavirus.
The following article describes why and the research backing up this approach.
This Inexpensive Action Lowers Hospital Infections And Protects Against Flu Season
There is a new paper coming out that reinforces this perspective.
Paper: Seasonality of Respiratory Viral Infections
In the conclusions: How might we use these insights to prevent respiratory infections and illnesses in the winter months? In addition to vaccines and antiviral drugs, nonpharmaceutical interventions to prevent respiratory infections are gaining attention. Lifestyle (eating healthy, sleeping more than 7 h/day) and hygiene practices (washing hands, wearing facemasks) are known to increase antimicrobial resistance and prevent transmission, respectively. In addition to these measures, we might consider controlling the indoor environment to combat respiratory infections. Such inter- ventions with humidifiers have been realized since the 1960s with promising results. More recently, a study in Minnesota found that humidifying preschool classrooms during January to March to ∼45% RH results in a significant reduction in the total number of influenza virus and viral genome copies found in the air and on objects compared to control classrooms. Such nonpharmaceutical interventions can be combined with vaccination strategies to achieve better prevention of respiratory viral infections.
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A very unique plan. As Dr. Paul Thompson wrote, "This is the very best paper on the virus I have ever seen."
A California pulmonologist, Dr. Tom Yadegar, and medical director of the intensive care unit at Providence Cedars-Sinai Tarzana Medical Center described the protocol he created to help identify and treat the most extreme COVID-19 cases, saying the key is to find these patients and prevent them from going on ventilators.
The new coronavirus is spread by microscopic droplets from coughs or sneezes and causes mild to moderate symptoms in most. For some, especially older adults and the infirm, it can cause pneumonia and lead to death.
Speaking from Los Angeles on Tuesday, Dr. Tom Yadegar, a specialist in critical care medicine who has been treating COVID-19 patients, said he noticed several patients were deteriorating quickly and needed to be put on ventilators. He said he realized that he had to find out why these patients were experiencing sudden deterioration.
He said that prompted him to start researching what was happening to those COVID-19 patients. Yadegar explained that through his research he found out that “what was happening is a process called cytokine storm syndrome.”
According to the National Cancer Institute (NCI), cytokine storm, which can occur as a result of infection, autoimmune conditions or diseases, is “a severe immune reaction in which the body releases too many cytokines into the blood too quickly.”
“Cytokines play an important role in normal immune responses, but having a large amount of them released in the body all at once can be harmful,” NCI explained.
On Tuesday, Yadegar explained that “in this syndrome, the immune system is activated – you have intense inflammation and subsequently it leads to patients requiring mechanical ventilation.”
He said once he figured out what the diagnosis was, he started doing more research to try and figure out “how do we look for it in a laboratory value so that we can find it before it happens because when it happens, it's almost too late.”
He added that “it’s very important to find these patients and prevent them from going on ventilators.”
Yadegar said he came up with “a handful of lab tests” that he thought were useful “and we started ordering them on admission when the patients were presenting to the ER [emergency room] and then tracking them every few days and it was a very clear pattern that we learned.”
“You can predict on presentation who is going to be at risk for it and then if you follow certain markers and their clinical course you can actually tell who is going to develop it and, more importantly, you can intervene to prevent them from getting to that point where they need a ventilator,” Yadegar said.
He said that as people’s immune systems kick in, he has a better result by actually suppressing that person’s immune system, which he said was “pretty counterintuitive.”
Source: California pulmonologist on how he's identifying and treating extreme COVID-19 cases
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Author of Practical Preparations for a Coronavirus Pandemic.
A very unique plan. As Dr. Paul Thompson wrote, "This is the very best paper on the virus I have ever seen."
The new coronavirus is spread by microscopic droplets from coughs or sneezes and causes mild to moderate symptoms in most. For some, especially older adults and the infirm, it can cause pneumonia and lead to death.
Speaking from Los Angeles on Tuesday, Dr. Tom Yadegar, a specialist in critical care medicine who has been treating COVID-19 patients, said he noticed several patients were deteriorating quickly and needed to be put on ventilators. He said he realized that he had to find out why these patients were experiencing sudden deterioration.
He said that prompted him to start researching what was happening to those COVID-19 patients. Yadegar explained that through his research he found out that “what was happening is a process called cytokine storm syndrome.”
According to the National Cancer Institute (NCI), cytokine storm, which can occur as a result of infection, autoimmune conditions or diseases, is “a severe immune reaction in which the body releases too many cytokines into the blood too quickly.”
“Cytokines play an important role in normal immune responses, but having a large amount of them released in the body all at once can be harmful,” NCI explained.
On Tuesday, Yadegar explained that “in this syndrome, the immune system is activated – you have intense inflammation and subsequently it leads to patients requiring mechanical ventilation.”
He said once he figured out what the diagnosis was, he started doing more research to try and figure out “how do we look for it in a laboratory value so that we can find it before it happens because when it happens, it's almost too late.”
He added that “it’s very important to find these patients and prevent them from going on ventilators.”
Yadegar said he came up with “a handful of lab tests” that he thought were useful “and we started ordering them on admission when the patients were presenting to the ER [emergency room] and then tracking them every few days and it was a very clear pattern that we learned.”
“You can predict on presentation who is going to be at risk for it and then if you follow certain markers and their clinical course you can actually tell who is going to develop it and, more importantly, you can intervene to prevent them from getting to that point where they need a ventilator,” Yadegar said.
He said that as people’s immune systems kick in, he has a better result by actually suppressing that person’s immune system, which he said was “pretty counterintuitive.”
Source: California pulmonologist on how he's identifying and treating extreme COVID-19 cases
That's interesting!
A bit similar to what we believe about the Spanish Flu - it also killed by immune system overreaction.
But it doesn't have the distinctive pattern of killing strong patients that Spanish Flu had.
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Yesterday, I let my Dr. Frankenstein side out for a while while pondering the true lasting effects of this virus. I am not talking about the overall deaths as those are easy to see. The net effect is that it causes a slight change in the DNA of those affected and survive. It is probably too small to notice with simple genetic tests, with the exception of antibody formation. However, extend that out over several human generations and the changes to the genetic code becomes much larger. Viruses contribute to human genetic evolution in a big way.
If you do not think this is true, there exists viruses that do directly change genetic coding in humans so much that it can lead to cancers. We have HPV shots to prevent one specific form of this. My dark side sees where that can be used with evil intent. If you combine the effects of several viruses together, it can lead to so interesting results. This is something that can be engineered to a purpose. I will leave it at that.
Thank you Dr. Frankenstein. The hypothetical that you state based on the realities of how viruses are known to affect humans reinforce my continued skepticism that this current virus is entirely natural and exists without any human manipulation, intervention or creation.
Those who contract the virus will be assimilated into the Matrix.
Don’t catch the virus.
Just a tip from the Lizards.

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WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE CORONAVIRUS ENDS?
When people have been cooped up in their homes, surviving the quarantine, they need a release. They will find it by hitting the national parks, amusement parks and the great outdoors. This trek will almost burst the seams in attendance numbers, forcing some of these sites to ration access. How can I predict this?
All I have to do is look at China.
A popular tourist attraction in the Anhui province of China was reopened this weekend and then quickly closed to visitors when more than 20,000 flocked to the site.
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Author of Practical Preparations for a Coronavirus Pandemic.
A very unique plan. As Dr. Paul Thompson wrote, "This is the very best paper on the virus I have ever seen."
Don’t catch the virus.
Just a tip from the Lizards.

Does it assimilate those already assimilated by the Borg?
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Don’t catch the virus.
Just a tip from the Lizards.

Does it assimilate those already assimilated by the Borg?
Yes.It has mutated for that.The Borg cube will now be a giant Corona virus sphere bumping through the cosmos.
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