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07 Apr 2020, 9:50 pm

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I bet if the Covid Plague achieves the socialism the Climate Catastrophe was trying to achieve, we won't be hearing much about any more. Looks like Greta Thunberg will be out of a job. Along with a billion other people.

CoVID will be a short term concern, climate change will continue to be a relevant concern after the pestilence is old news.

It would be nice if imagining ever major news story as some socialist conspiracy theory could become a relic too.

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07 Apr 2020, 9:56 pm

Israel makes masks in public compulsory as Passover lockdown begins

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The Israeli government issued orders on Tuesday requiring citizens to wear face masks in public to try to stem the spread of the novel coronavirus as the country enters a lockdown for the Jewish Passover holiday.

The government also approved a timeline for tightened travel restrictions throughout much of the week-long festival, which begins on Wednesday when Jewish families gather for a meal commemorating the Biblical exodus from slavery in Egypt.

Israel has introduced the tougher measures in the hope the coronavirus will have been sufficiently contained once the April 8-15 festival is over to begin a gradual easing of restrictions.

But national leaders have made clear a recovery will take time.

“We will return to full routines within a year,” Defence Minister Naftali Bennett told Army Radio on Tuesday.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu last week urged Israelis to wear masks in public, a measure the government said would become compulsory on Sunday.

Children under six, the mentally disabled or those alone in vehicles or workplaces are exempt. The government said masks could be homemade.

A ban on unnecessary out-of-town travel began on Tuesday evening and will last until Friday morning, effectively preventing large gatherings for Passover.

Food shopping within towns will be forbidden from 3 p.m. Wednesday, a few hours before the meal begins, until the following morning.

The government said the holiday shopping ban would not apply to non-Jewish minorities. Around a fifth of Israeli citizens are Arabs, mostly Muslims, Druze and Christians.

Israel has more than 9,000 confirmed cases of the coronavirus. At least 60 people have died.

Ahead of the holiday, Israel’s military distributed some 50 tons of fruit and vegetables to residents of an ultra-Orthodox town that has been hit hard by the coronavirus and was sealed off last week, the military said on Tuesday.

Bnei Brak, a town of some 200,000 near Tel Aviv, was declared a restricted zone on Thursday and police have restricted access.

Around one third of Bnei Brak residents who were tested for the virus were found to have it, Israeli media have reported, citing health ministry data.

Many of the town’s residents are poor and some have heeded rabbis who, distrusting the state, spurned anti-virus measures.

In a broadcast Passover benediction on Tuesday, Chief Rabbi Shlomo Amar sought to reassure the country.

“May the Lord lift the dark and heavy cloud of this pestilence from over us,” he said.

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07 Apr 2020, 10:01 pm

How the virus got its foothold in the US.

Disaster in motion: Where flights from coronavirus-ravaged countries landed in US
Thousands of flights came into US as coronavirus raged.

An ABC News joint investigation with its owned television stations sheds new light on the likely flow of the coronavirus from global hotspots into the U.S. and provides a glimpse the toll the virus has taken on some of the first Americans to interact with international travelers: airport workers.

From December through March, as severe outbreaks cropped up in China and then Italy and Spain, among others, thousands of flights from the hard-hit nations poured into U.S. cities, according to an ABC News analysis of more than 20 million flight records obtained from the tracking service Flightradar-24.

While it is unclear the precise number of passengers into the U.S. who were infected with the coronavirus, the medical experts told ABC News such a huge pool of people virtually assures that a number had the highly contagious disease.

“In the case of coronavirus, you have the interface of a virus that spreads this quickly,” Dr. John Brownstein, an epidemiologist at Boston’s Children’s Hospital and ABC News contributor said.

The data shows that 3,200 flights flew from China to the U.S., including more than 1,000 flights that went to Los Angeles and nearly 500 each landed in San Francisco and New York – all three among the eventual hot spots of the COVID-19 outbreak in the U.S. More than 100 flights from China arrived in six other American cities: Chicago, Seattle, Detroit, Dallas, Washington, D.C., and Newark, N.J.

According to travel data previously obtained by ABC News, those flights translated to more than 761,000 Chinese nationals entering the U.S. and Americans returning home from the People’s Republic of China during that critical four-month period.

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07 Apr 2020, 10:03 pm

^^

I wonder how they define "mentally disabled". I don't consider autistic people to be "mentally disabled" but I know a lot of autistic people have an extreme sensory aversion to wearing masks or gloves. Of course they can choose to stay home, but I'm wondering how "mentally disabled" is going to be decided.

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07 Apr 2020, 10:05 pm

I have been thinking about the logic decision process on ending the quarantine. From my perspective I see the following decision process:

Do we have coronavirus test kits available: Yes
Is rapid spread under control: Not yet but perhaps very soon.
Is there a treatment? Yes
* Is treatment safe? Yes
* Is treatment effective? Highly probable

So when all these questions become YES then there is no need to continue quarantine IMHO

Do we need a coronavirus vaccine to end quarantine? No
Do we need an antibody test available in order to end quarantine? No, but nice to have.

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07 Apr 2020, 10:07 pm

funeralxempire wrote:

EzraS wrote:

While Covid is short term, if it achieves long term global socialism, there won't be a need to tout climate catastrophe to try achieving that goal.

Note that I am differentiating impending climate catastrophe apocalypse from climate change.

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07 Apr 2020, 10:10 pm

EzraS wrote:

funeralxempire wrote:

EzraS wrote:

I understand what you're saying, I'm just dismissing your premise that 'implementing global socialism' is a relevant consideration of either. Anyways, you didn't mention chemtrails or the Illuminati enough to sound like you meant it.

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07 Apr 2020, 10:14 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:

Mentally disabled is along the lines of neurologically disabled. I call it broken brain regarding my autism.

Also since autism is defined in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. It's hard not to call it a mental disorder or mental disability.

But I know a lot of aspies don't like it being described that way.

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07 Apr 2020, 10:15 pm

EzraS wrote:

I bet if the Covid Plague achieves global socialism the way Climate Catastrophe was trying to achieve it, we won't be hearing much about climate change any more. Looks like Greta Thunberg will be out of a job. Along with a billion other people.

I agree. "Climate Change" is still the most brilliant long term vehicle for controlling human behavior on a global scale and down to minute levels because it's open ended, spectacularly nebulous and timeless. "Climate Change" could mandate behavioral modifications in the name of climate in this generation or ten generations from now. This pandemic has brought about an exercise in near total control of human behavior at a level "Climate Change" would have only dreamed of.

People's cars sit idle, people aren't eating at restaurants, cruises have stopped, air travel has stopped, brick and mortar retail shopping other than food has stopped, vacations have stopped, frivolity and excess consumption have stopped.

I can hear the responses now: "Climate change? Climate change? I you #@&*ing kidding me?? What would you want me to do in the name of "Climate Change"? I can't even leave my house! Take your "Climate Change and shove it up your compost hole!"

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07 Apr 2020, 10:18 pm

Yep. There seems to be too many New Yorkers dying at home. And that are not included in the official statistics.

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07 Apr 2020, 10:19 pm

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Yep. There seems to be too many New Yorkers dying at home. And that are not included in the official statistics.

According to Ez, even if someone asymptomatic gets hit by a car they'd be counted as a COVID death.

I hope that's not the case.

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07 Apr 2020, 10:20 pm

EzraS wrote:

IsabellaLinton wrote:

Even though mental impairment doesn't inherently imply an intellectual impairment, because it's often used as a euphemism, I wonder how many of us can't help but feel like that's what's being said.

Also, a lot of us might get too caught up on 'well, I'm more prone to being like that because of autism, but autism doesn't make me like that', so that attempts to point out how autism impacts function get nuanced around while missing the point.

Generally speaking, if you want to see some impressive mental gymnastics, assign someone on here with a label that largely appears applicable.

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07 Apr 2020, 10:20 pm

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funeralxempire wrote:

EzraS wrote:

Are you saying that nobody has ever wanted an imminent global climate catastrophe scenario to lead to global socialism as a fix?

And that nobody wants to see the economic predicament caused by Covid lockdowns solved with socialism?

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07 Apr 2020, 10:22 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:

kraftiekortie wrote:

Yep. There seems to be too many New Yorkers dying at home. And that are not included in the official statistics.

According to Ez, even if someone asymptomatic gets hit by a car they'd be counted as a COVID death.

I hope that's not the case.

Not according to me. According to Dr. Brix.

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07 Apr 2020, 10:23 pm

jimmy m wrote:

I agree with you, Jimmy. If for example the malaria drug cocktail is a viable and effective treatment and accurate test kits are widely available then I would foresee life, commerce, schooling, etc activities starting back up again.

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07 Apr 2020, 10:24 pm

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I'm saying that nobody who desires such things is in a position to implement them and that no one within our current power structure is actively working to impose global socialism as a solution to either of these. You sound like you've started taking John Birch Society newsletters seriously.

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