President Obama has won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize

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14 Oct 2009, 7:58 pm

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2. Apparently it's a sin to be dissatisfied with Obama. It is downright heresy to mention it.
Thou who defied shalt be branded "neocons".


you're finally catching on, cloudwalker! :lol:
it IS a sin to be dissatisfied with obama, A CARDINAL SIN. :twisted:


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14 Oct 2009, 8:15 pm

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The Nobel Peace Prize committee has a history of attempting to inspire world Peace. Nobel Peace Police I failed history so feel free to ignore this line of thinking, but it is the only one that makes since to me. Granted, there are many theories that make perfect scents, but that is politics from what I understand. Much like the campaign promise to start pulling the US troops out of Iraq, he has made good on that promise true, though he forgot to mention that he would be putting them in Afghanistan instead, minor oversight I am sure.


:lol: I like your sense of humor. Only a minor correction, Obama did say that his way to end the war is to re-invade Afghanistan in one of the debates with Hillary Clinton. I think I need to polish my newspeak before I can fully comprehend that.


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If someone PMs me thinking they are a neocon and wants me to edit my post about neocons (which I self edited, thank you very much) I would do so.


In your own words, "try opening your understanding that people are not confined to your narrow way of thinking". Neocons are not the only one who has valid reason to feel disgusted about your words. btw, following your logic, did you pm yourself to remove that post?

:shameonyou: Now I know why you are famous for provoking people.


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I am still chuckling about 'almost' editing your post.

I am also chuckling why someone would censor a quote instead of the actual post.



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14 Oct 2009, 8:15 pm

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it IS a sin to be dissatisfied with obama, A CARDINAL SIN. :twisted:


    Pontifical perhaps



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14 Oct 2009, 8:21 pm

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you're finally catching on, cloudwalker! :lol:
it IS a sin to be dissatisfied with obama, A CARDINAL SIN. :twisted:


:wink: Yeah, I must admit I'm immune to social rules.



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14 Oct 2009, 8:32 pm

Don't feel out place....I did not even know Obama was Catholic 8)



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14 Oct 2009, 8:58 pm

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:shameonyou: Now I know why you are famous for provoking people.
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it seems we have something in common, then, doesn't it? :D


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14 Oct 2009, 9:57 pm

Provost with the most :lol:



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14 Oct 2009, 10:37 pm

News flash: Obama wins Heisman after watching college football game!


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15 Oct 2009, 10:45 am

Ok, im not sure if this has been clear, but what exactly has he done to earn it?



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15 Oct 2009, 8:48 pm

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Ok, im not sure if this has been clear, but what exactly has he done to earn it?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJejoRmbnsA[/youtube]



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15 Oct 2009, 8:49 pm

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Ok, im not sure if this has been clear, but what exactly has he done to earn it?


Agot Valle, a Norwegian politician and member of the five-person Nobel committee that chose this year’s winner, said the choice of President Barack Obama was primarily related to his stance on nuclear disarmament.

President Barack Obama chairing a meeting of the United Nations Security Council at the United Nations headquarters. “There is a criticism about the war in Afghanistan, and I understand that,” said Valle in a telephone interview. “But this was primarily an award on his work on and commitment to nuclear disarmament – and his dialogue. Of course there will be criticism, because he hasn’t achieved his goals yet. It will take time, but this is a support.”

Valle said the committee last met on Oct. 5, and that the decision to choose Obama was unanimous, especially after Sept. 24, when Obama became the first sitting U.S. president to chair a U.N. Security Council summit-level meeting. At that meeting, the Security Council passed a resolution calling for a strengthened Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty ahead of negotiations on the issue with Iran in Geneva.

“That strengthened his name, so to say,” Valle said. “It’s a challenge to him, of course, to continue going on in this way.”

She said she hoped the award would help Obama get the U.S. to ratify the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty and aid him in progressing on climate change in Copenhagen. She added that she supported Obama’s recent decision to drop U.S. plans for a missile-defense shield in Central Europe. “He is giving hope to people who believe in dialogue instead of threats of using military tools,” she said.

Earlier, at the Nobel press conference, committee chairman Thorbjørn Jagland defended the choice of Obama.

“If you look at the history of the Nobel Peace prize, we have, on many occasions, tried to enhance what many personalities are trying to do,” he said. “For instance, when Willy Brandt got the prize back in the 1970s. He launched Ostpolitik in Europe, which was so important to what happened in Europe many years later. For instance, giving the prize to Mikhail Gorbachev, who changed the world completely. And now to President Obama, who is contributing to improve the international climate.”

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/10/0 ... the-prize/



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15 Oct 2009, 9:59 pm

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PlatedDrake wrote:
Ok, im not sure if this has been clear, but what exactly has he done to earn it?


Agot Valle, a Norwegian politician and member of the five-person Nobel committee that chose this year’s winner, said the choice of President Barack Obama was primarily related to his stance on nuclear disarmament.

President Barack Obama chairing a meeting of the United Nations Security Council at the United Nations headquarters. “There is a criticism about the war in Afghanistan, and I understand that,” said Valle in a telephone interview. “But this was primarily an award on his work on and commitment to nuclear disarmament – and his dialogue. Of course there will be criticism, because he hasn’t achieved his goals yet. It will take time, but this is a support.”

Valle said the committee last met on Oct. 5, and that the decision to choose Obama was unanimous, especially after Sept. 24, when Obama became the first sitting U.S. president to chair a U.N. Security Council summit-level meeting. At that meeting, the Security Council passed a resolution calling for a strengthened Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty ahead of negotiations on the issue with Iran in Geneva.

“That strengthened his name, so to say,” Valle said. “It’s a challenge to him, of course, to continue going on in this way.”

She said she hoped the award would help Obama get the U.S. to ratify the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty and aid him in progressing on climate change in Copenhagen. She added that she supported Obama’s recent decision to drop U.S. plans for a missile-defense shield in Central Europe. “He is giving hope to people who believe in dialogue instead of threats of using military tools,” she said.

Earlier, at the Nobel press conference, committee chairman Thorbjørn Jagland defended the choice of Obama.

“If you look at the history of the Nobel Peace prize, we have, on many occasions, tried to enhance what many personalities are trying to do,” he said. “For instance, when Willy Brandt got the prize back in the 1970s. He launched Ostpolitik in Europe, which was so important to what happened in Europe many years later. For instance, giving the prize to Mikhail Gorbachev, who changed the world completely. And now to President Obama, who is contributing to improve the international climate.”

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/10/0 ... the-prize/


Obama is moving to cut the US nuclear arsenal from thousands to a few hundred.
Even if the US nuclear arsenal was brought down to a few hundred, it would still only be bringing it down to the same if not still higher than the number any other single nation owns, other than Russia. This is while chairing for the UN security council, which itself is pushing for non-armed nations to remain that way, while Obama is commanding an army that occupies 2 countries.



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15 Oct 2009, 10:07 pm

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Obama is moving to cut the US nuclear arsenal from thousands to a few hundred.
Even if the US nuclear arsenal was brought down to a few hundred, it would still only be bringing it down to the same if not still higher than the number any other single nation owns, other than Russia. This is while chairing for the UN security council, which itself is pushing for non-armed nations to remain that way, while Obama is commanding an army that occupies 2 countries.


he isn't nuking them, is he?



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15 Oct 2009, 10:27 pm

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he isn't nuking them, is he?


I don't think the answer to your question will change whether the number of war heads is in the hundreds or in the thousands. So what's the point of your question?


btw the resolution in that so important meeting is only "calling for a strengthened Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty". Last time I check we don't have a desire to spread nuclear weapons, well not anymore after UK and Israel. So what exactly has Obama changed? We are basically asking other countries to follow our policy and pretended we are making sacrifices.

The "Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty" is just a convenient way to maintain our lead in nuclear technology. The "National Ignition Facility" is already on its way to be used to test nuclear reactions without full scale test. What really strengthened is the exclusively nuclear club.

Mind you, I'm not against nuclear non-proliferation. I just don't think it's any great accomplishment.



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15 Oct 2009, 10:44 pm

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sinsboldly wrote:
he isn't nuking them, is he?


I don't think the answer to your question will change whether the number of war heads is in the hundreds or in the thousands. So what's the point of your question?


btw the resolution in that so important meeting is only "calling for a strengthened Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty". Last time I check we don't have a desire to spread nuclear weapons, well not anymore after UK and Israel. So what exactly has Obama changed? We are basically asking other countries to follow our policy and pretended we are making sacrifices.

The "Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty" is just a convenient way to maintain our lead in nuclear technology. The "National Ignition Facility" is already on its way to be used to test nuclear reactions without full scale test. What really strengthened is the exclusively nuclear club.

Mind you, I'm not against nuclear non-proliferation. I just don't think it's any great accomplishment.


:D next time they ask for your vote for the Nobel Prize you can nominate someone you like. :D


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16 Oct 2009, 6:42 am

Congrats Obama, You aren't George Bush. That's very heroic of you!(sarcasm)


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