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24 Aug 2010, 1:30 am

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Of the two people I know best who have Asperger's, the female is more interested in the casual stuff and the male is far more interested in actual relationships.

People with asperger's are not some mutant race that should have a different set of rules! They are humans with less connections between the two halves of their brains than the average human has. This doesn't mean that they don't have personalities that are just as varied as in physically "normal" people. It simply means that using the two sides of the brain together often takes longer to process things than most people. As a result people with asperger's get angry at themselves for getting muddled up in their own thought processes, and angry at others for rushing them along. I'd get pretty f***ing violent too if people kept cutting me off when i only had half a sentence formed!

None of this indicates in any way that young males with asperger's are potentially rapists. Nor does it indicate in any way that young females with asperger's wouldn't want casual sex. Your claims are utterly unfounded and pretty much complete biased BS.


Then that female friend of yours is an anomaly.


Or perhaps you've never known enough women to deviate from your sense of the "norm". I've known many women including an ex friend who go from one man to the next without attachments involved. Although I have to say, in some aspects you might be on the money but I think it's a little more complicated than your perception of women as being asexual. I for example am not looking for marriage or kids and that is not what attracts me to men.


I think that girls with Asperger are more mature, so they have a chance of having a boyfriend at age 15 like nt girls, while boys with Asperger don't reach maturity until they are past 20. Therefor they never learn the social rules that can get them a girlfriend and therefor relationships for most men with Asperger are about quick sexual gratification only.



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24 Aug 2010, 7:08 am

Lonermutant wrote:
MissConstrue wrote:
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Of the two people I know best who have Asperger's, the female is more interested in the casual stuff and the male is far more interested in actual relationships.

People with asperger's are not some mutant race that should have a different set of rules! They are humans with less connections between the two halves of their brains than the average human has. This doesn't mean that they don't have personalities that are just as varied as in physically "normal" people. It simply means that using the two sides of the brain together often takes longer to process things than most people. As a result people with asperger's get angry at themselves for getting muddled up in their own thought processes, and angry at others for rushing them along. I'd get pretty f***ing violent too if people kept cutting me off when i only had half a sentence formed!

None of this indicates in any way that young males with asperger's are potentially rapists. Nor does it indicate in any way that young females with asperger's wouldn't want casual sex. Your claims are utterly unfounded and pretty much complete biased BS.


Then that female friend of yours is an anomaly.


Or perhaps you've never known enough women to deviate from your sense of the "norm". I've known many women including an ex friend who go from one man to the next without attachments involved. Although I have to say, in some aspects you might be on the money but I think it's a little more complicated than your perception of women as being asexual. I for example am not looking for marriage or kids and that is not what attracts me to men.


I think that girls with Asperger are more mature, so they have a chance of having a boyfriend at age 15 like nt girls, while boys with Asperger don't reach maturity until they are past 20. Therefor they never learn the social rules that can get them a girlfriend and therefor relationships for most men with Asperger are about quick sexual gratification only.


Utter BS. My fiancee has asperger's and he was fully matured before I met him. He was 18.

You can't take everyone with a similar kind of disability and put them all in one group and say "you can't ever have a life partner because you're autistic". The reasons for people with asperger's finding it difficult to find partners go far beyond learning the social "rules". It's actually mostly to do with communication difficulties, which vary depending on the severity of their condition and on the type of person they are to begin with.

Can I suggest that the next time you try to respond, you maybe do some ACTUAL RESEARCH. Read a few books. Link us to some scientific studies. Bear also in mind that I'm a statistics student and therefore can smell a biased study a mile off.

Your previous responses show you up to be VERY poorly educated in behavioural psychology, and completely unwilling to learn, dismissing my very clear example contrary to your unfounded point as an "anomaly". You also seem to think that people with asperger's are not just as varied in personality as everyone else.

I really don't know where you dug up all this crap but I'm actually really interested to find out.



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24 Aug 2010, 1:36 pm

Read these:

http://www.autism-help.org/adults-aspergers-sexual.htm

http://www.amazon.com/Making-Sense-Sex- ... 1843103745


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24 Aug 2010, 3:54 pm

Peko wrote:
Read these:

http://www.autism-help.org/adults-aspergers-sexual.htm

http://www.amazon.com/Making-Sense-Sex- ... 1843103745


"Making Sense of Sex" is total nonsense. Teen boys with Asperger need to learn ONE thing: Don't even think about girls. It will just be easier for them that way.
In the "SEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS" article, they should have included that many men with Asperger don't have an education that would have enough status for women.



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24 Aug 2010, 7:22 pm

Lonermutant wrote:
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Read these:

http://www.autism-help.org/adults-aspergers-sexual.htm

http://www.amazon.com/Making-Sense-Sex- ... 1843103745


"Making Sense of Sex" is total nonsense. Teen boys with Asperger need to learn ONE thing: Don't even think about girls. It will just be easier for them that way.
In the "SEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS" article, they should have included that many men with Asperger don't have an education that would have enough status for women.


are you into eugenics or something? otherwise your not making much sense and even then its still not very logical.



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24 Aug 2010, 9:06 pm

Lonermutant wrote:
Peko wrote:
Read these:

http://www.autism-help.org/adults-aspergers-sexual.htm

http://www.amazon.com/Making-Sense-Sex- ... 1843103745


"Making Sense of Sex" is total nonsense. Teen boys with Asperger need to learn ONE thing: Don't even think about girls. It will just be easier for them that way.
In the "SEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS" article, they should have included that many men with Asperger don't have an education that would have enough status for women.


Honestly, the only way to possibly justify by even .5% you continuously saying all boys with ASD's need to be sterilized is if you've done so to yourself willingly without complaint and as your suggestion or idea... years ago.

I like and have read the book "Making Sense of Sex" and find that it breaks down sexual matters in very simple terms and its labels for the steps in relationships such as "Hi, I like you!" are freaking cute. :)


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24 Aug 2010, 9:30 pm

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25 Aug 2010, 12:23 am

Peko wrote:
Lonermutant wrote:
Peko wrote:
Read these:

http://www.autism-help.org/adults-aspergers-sexual.htm

http://www.amazon.com/Making-Sense-Sex- ... 1843103745


"Making Sense of Sex" is total nonsense. Teen boys with Asperger need to learn ONE thing: Don't even think about girls. It will just be easier for them that way.
In the "SEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS" article, they should have included that many men with Asperger don't have an education that would have enough status for women.


Honestly, the only way to possibly justify by even .5% you continuously saying all boys with ASD's need to be sterilized is if you've done so to yourself willingly without complaint and as your suggestion or idea... years ago.

I like and have read the book "Making Sense of Sex" and find that it breaks down sexual matters in very simple terms and its labels for the steps in relationships such as "Hi, I like you!" are freaking cute. :)



Say that to an nt girl and you get slapped and become known as a perverted freak for live.



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25 Aug 2010, 5:24 pm

this is crazy how are ythey gonna turn into men if you stop them from producing hormones. (thats what it will do in ferrets anyway, i assume it's the same for people.)



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25 Aug 2010, 10:19 pm

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this is crazy how are ythey gonna turn into men if you stop them from producing hormones. (thats what it will do in ferrets anyway, i assume it's the same for people.)


I'm sure it stunts development... like the men who were castrated to preserve their beautiful young voices before they changed in the past.


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29 Aug 2010, 4:44 am

Lonermutant wrote:
Peko wrote:
Lonermutant wrote:
Peko wrote:
Read these:

http://www.autism-help.org/adults-aspergers-sexual.htm

http://www.amazon.com/Making-Sense-Sex- ... 1843103745


"Making Sense of Sex" is total nonsense. Teen boys with Asperger need to learn ONE thing: Don't even think about girls. It will just be easier for them that way.
In the "SEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS" article, they should have included that many men with Asperger don't have an education that would have enough status for women.


Honestly, the only way to possibly justify by even .5% you continuously saying all boys with ASD's need to be sterilized is if you've done so to yourself willingly without complaint and as your suggestion or idea... years ago.

I like and have read the book "Making Sense of Sex" and find that it breaks down sexual matters in very simple terms and its labels for the steps in relationships such as "Hi, I like you!" are freaking cute. :)



Say that to an nt girl and you get slapped and become known as a perverted freak for live.
It sounds like a chapter name. It doesn't sound like the person's trying to say that "Hi, I like you" will lead to "I wanna feel you from the inside." Books meant for relationships are going to likely have eye-catching titles to eventually get there, but it's not promoting those as come on lines.

I disagree with your point of view about aspie men pushing out the idea of having a meaningful relationship as well. I'm still learning about what aspergers means for me, but don't fully comprehend it. Aside from understanding that I have a more mature body than my mentality would lead to believe, I am still trying to acquire this information. Why I bring this up is because I actually found the information useful at the help site listed. It kinda feels nice to have a little more understanding about sexuality and how it may be effected by this new diagnosis.

It just seems like you have this idea of social aspects being an issue in the relationship and because of this, it somehow leads to a lower standing. Not all women are looking to live a socialite life, but your stereotypes toward women and autistic/aspie men makes it sound like that is your only standing reason on why women would veer from that kind of relationship.



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29 Aug 2010, 6:45 am

Say "Hi I like you" to a girl with higher social status than yourself and either get sprayed with something or get a painful kick somewhere.



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29 Aug 2010, 1:49 pm

Lonermutant wrote:
Say "Hi I like you" to a girl with higher social status than yourself and either get sprayed with something or get a painful kick somewhere.


Maybe if it was to a stranger but if it's someone you've already got to know?



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29 Aug 2010, 3:51 pm

This smells of quackery to me.


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29 Aug 2010, 6:14 pm

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The real problem is that most parents of teens with developmental disabilities don't want to address sexuality or how to act appropriately around the opposite sex.


agreed....

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29 Aug 2010, 6:18 pm

"The group gives children the cancer drug Lupron to stop their bodies from making testosterone, saying the drug helps expel toxic mercury and quells aggressive or sexually explicit behavior by kids with excessive levels of the male hormone."

So that's why I am hairy...

arh.... Aspies are very focused.. If they are focused on lego they build amazing buildings. If they focus on sex... Ka Bamb!


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