TSA now telling kids that touching privates is "a game

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31 Jul 2013, 11:02 am

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This is just unbelieveable; when will this madness stop?!


It won't stop. The TSA is rooted in and it would be near impossible to disband it.
After all, NOTHING is more important than our "safety" :roll:


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31 Jul 2013, 11:13 am

I know they have been moving into train stations and I knew it had to happen sometime.
Just don't complain or make any jokes or wisecracks because, to them, only a terrorist would do that.
Seriously, they don't touch everyone. The metal detector is usually sufficient.


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31 Jul 2013, 11:15 am

equestriatola wrote:
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equestriatola wrote:
This is just unbelieveable; when will this madness stop?!


It won't stop. The TSA is rooted in and it would be near impossible to disband it.
After all, NOTHING is more important than our "safety" :roll:


"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" - Benjamin Franklin


That's one of my motto's, too.


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31 Jul 2013, 11:51 am

I don't know if I'll ever fly again because I don't like to be touched, especially in my private areas. I don't even hug people and don't like to shake hands if I can get away with it.

I didn't go for a pelvic exam for over 15 years until I was gushing blood and had a 3.5 cm tumor. If it took that much to make me let a doctor look at and touch me there is no way I'm letting the tsa feel me up just so I can go on a plane.

I'd do the scanner if there was a guarantee that they wouldn't touch me then but from what I've heard they still could and I don't want to be exposed to the radiation. I had lots of radiation treatments in the past year for cancer and had pet scans and cat scans. I don't need more of that.

Just watching these freaks me out and I couldn't stand it if they touched me like that.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvKRhdx9F9s[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-DJFP3_M8I[/youtube]

I also read this and if this is true I'd have trouble even if I gave in and consented to them touching me. I wouldn't though and if I did I'd feel like I was being coerced into being molested.

"So she continued to pat me and did it again and I jumped forward again and at that point I said what what are you doing and she said I am going to do it over and over again and until you don't flinch."

I read you aren't supposed to move and it is my instinct to flinch or back away when touched.



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31 Jul 2013, 2:16 pm

I tend to giggle when nervous.I'll know tomorrow just what it's all about.Ugh.My son always gets frisked by TSA,but he really hates flying and he tends to get nervous and I guess it shows.My daughter never had any trouble till about a year ago,now she gets the special treatment.(she has only herself to blame for this),I have a friend that is a Buddhist monk and he always gets searched.
I get the part about bombers and kids,my foster dad told me that when he was in Vietnam Nam that some times the kids would be rigged.They would come up and ask"Got a candy bar Joe?"Then ker-boom.


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31 Jul 2013, 8:43 pm

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I get the part about bombers and kids,my foster dad told me that when he was in Vietnam Nam that some times the kids would be rigged.They would come up and ask"Got a candy bar Joe?"Then ker-boom.

It's not about bombs or hijackings, it's about the TSA justifying its existence and growing even more.
Before long they'll have checkpoints on the freeways...................for our safety and security, of course. :roll:


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31 Jul 2013, 8:57 pm

I'll take the back roads if I can,even if it takes longer.I wanted to avoid KC(and who in their right mind wouldn't) so I went thru rural Kansas,the roads were awesome,I'll clap my hands for them,the best roads anywhere I have driven,like glass.I was doing 90,easy as pie,then when I realized and set my cruise it seemed too slow.Saw what looked like a road block ahead,but no,two farmers in white trucks gossiping on the road.They looked disgruntled that I was there,after all,no one usually drives by at that time :lol: Saw a weird sign that looked like a bug,it said roundabout ahead,I had no idea till saw it,then my years of watching Brit coms paid off,I was a pro.What is weird was it was on the middle of nowhere.I'd rather cruise thru the backwoods,if you breakdown people will help you,not kill you.If you break down on the interstate you are goosed.


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31 Jul 2013, 8:58 pm

Maybe they can request everyone to travel stark naked, you know, just to make things easier. And safer, of course.

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01 Aug 2013, 12:54 am

I'd rather have the dogs sniffing both people and suitcases. I know Customs and Agriculture already use beagles to sniff out contraband. Why not use a friendly nom-threatening breed like basset hounds (that is, when said basset hound doesn't roll over on their back for a belly rub :lol:) and bloodhounds to sniff out explosives on human beings?



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04 Aug 2013, 7:29 pm

Amtrak was awesome no pat downs.


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04 Aug 2013, 7:43 pm

I have never traveled by airplane before and looks like I never will if I have to deal with such procedures. That is just ridiculous in my opinion.


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06 Aug 2013, 7:31 am

I have to fly for work fairly often. It is not a pleasant experience at all. If you have to fly, here are my tips (learned the hard way):

Always go through the body scanner. Requesting to go through the metal detector will definitely be accompanied by a very thorough pat-down.

Don't ask any questions. Do as you are told. And above all else: no joking, no sarcasm, no insults. Don't give them the old "suspicion" justification, which in my case led to a private back room strip search with 6 people getting a free show. And my strip search was complete with me having to bend over and spread my cheeks (and not the cheeks on my face).

Have your shoes off and laptop/tablet out of your bag before you get to the scanner. It annoys the TSA turds to have to wait 2 seconds, and pisses them off even more if they have to tell you to do something that they think everyone should already know.

Wear nice clothing, preferably business attire. If you have a beard, trim it up nice and tidy before your flight. I have found that if my beard is a bit shaggy or I wear some beat ups clothes, I seem to get more "random searches."

As for banned items, if in doubt, don't take it. Any time they confiscate something, you are more likely to be a suspect. They say you can have liquids 3 ounces or less (shampoo, toothpaste, etc.), but even if it is a 3 ounce travel size, they can judge that it is over-filled and confiscate it, so I recommend emptying a little bit out so that it is not full.

And lastly, don't run. Even if you think you might miss your flight ( which was the reason I had to learn this one the hard way). I was tackled and forced to put my face on the floor (they were very specific about me having to keep my face in contact with the ground), put in handcuffs, and taken to a back room for some serious questioning. I was apparently warned first, but I heard nothing. And I still missed my flight.

Flying sucks donkey dong. Avoid if at all possible. If you must fly, try to look respectable, and keep your head down and mouth shut.

And never ever say "this Cinnabon is the bomb!"


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06 Aug 2013, 10:25 am

If you can take the train,no scanners,baggage checks or pat downs.I was amazed at how low key it was.I did see the one of the attendants pop some one on the head because their head was hanging out in the isle,but they had been a pest earlier about the lights in the car.
I thought it was ok to smoke an e- cigarette but it is not.I had been joyfully puffing away.I was buying a beer and told the attendant in the cafe how glad I was to have brought it and he said you can't have it,it's a two hundred dollar fine and they can put you off the train. 8O
I had an instant vision of them stopping in the middle of the desert and tossing me off.
There was a weird scene at the first station where there was a woman outside screaming and banging on the windows.They called the cops.But they let her on the train anyway.She was on another car and annoyed everyone there by constantly talking about masturbation.
There was also some dude that got off at each station wearing a coyote head,like a cartoon one.It was blue and its eyes and ears moved.And when you go past the Colorado river it is a tradition that the floaters moon the Amtrak train,and they did.I saw four moons in broad daylight.
The kids on the train seemed to be having a good time.


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06 Aug 2013, 11:07 am

^
Sounds like you had a lot of fun :lol:

What are "floaters" in this context? I can only think of the... erm other kind.


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06 Aug 2013, 5:25 pm

^^white water rafters and canoeist.Yeah,it was fun.Even the seat mate I had for awhile was a odd ball,we hit it off perfectly.


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