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21 Feb 2011, 12:40 pm

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Uh the Iranian Government is trying to develop nukes, all it would take is them have one of their terror groups smuggle one into a major city...


Which would ultimately result in the complete destruction of one major city and Iran, not the end of the world...

However, let some crazy, right wing religious nut get voted into the White House... now there's a recipe for the end of the world.


Maybe, maybe not. Remember though these nuts in the Iranian Government wouldn't care if they lived or died. They believe they get 72 virgins for their sexual amusement if they die killing infidels.



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22 Feb 2011, 3:56 pm

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How about before you dismiss him out of hand you actually bother to take a look at his research instead of making snap judgements.


I agree.



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22 Feb 2011, 4:41 pm

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How about before you dismiss him out of hand you actually bother to take a look at his research instead of making snap judgements.


I agree.


His so called research entails connecting labor protests in America to pro-democracy riots in the Middle East, which is supposed to lead to a world wide caliphate. This would be a Republican's wet dream, but it aint so. Sorry to disappoint you.

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22 Feb 2011, 7:38 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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Inuyasha wrote:
How about before you dismiss him out of hand you actually bother to take a look at his research instead of making snap judgements.


I agree.


His so called research entails connecting labor protests in America to pro-democracy riots in the Middle East, which is supposed to lead to a world wide caliphate. This would be a Republican's wet dream, but it aint so. Sorry to disappoint you.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Actually he did back up his claims, he didn't say unions were actively wanting a caliphate, he was saying the Unions were essentially playing with fire and were potentially going to get themselves burned.



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22 Feb 2011, 7:47 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
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How about before you dismiss him out of hand you actually bother to take a look at his research instead of making snap judgements.


I agree.


His so called research entails connecting labor protests in America to pro-democracy riots in the Middle East, which is supposed to lead to a world wide caliphate. This would be a Republican's wet dream, but it aint so. Sorry to disappoint you.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Actually he did back up his claims, he didn't say unions were actively wanting a caliphate, he was saying the Unions were essentially playing with fire and were potentially going to get themselves burned.


You're going to have to explain that to me. Because it still sounds like he's saying Americans unions are tied to the Middle East.

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22 Feb 2011, 8:30 pm

Speaking of basic research...

"Obamacare" is a derogatory nickname being given to an insurance plan (not a health-care plan) that has been passed under Pres. Obama, but which was first proposed by then-Rep. Newt Gingrich, House majority leader and Republican, in 1994 (under Pres. Clinton), as part of his Contract On- er, pardon me, Contract With America. It most emphatically does not give health care to everyone, as I am in a position to testify; it merely requires everyone in America above a certain income level to purchase health insurance, and removes the insurance companies' right to deny you coverage retroactively, because they decide that something you've just been diagnosed with is a "preexisting condition" (one of the more infamous reasons to deny cancer care).

In the Book of Revelation (not "Revelations"), there is no "Anti-Christ". There are references in the Epistles of Paul to "antichrists", plural and small "a"; these are people who would lead the faithful astray, by misuse of the Christ's teachings. The Book of Revelation does refer to the Beast, which is to be given divine authority to rule over the world for a certain period of time (not well-defined in the book); however, the people follow the Beast willingly due to the Lord messing with their minds, not because the Beast leads anyone astray. (I'm among those who think that Revelation should properly have been placed under the Apocrypha, not the Canon; sadly, lacking a time machine or any way of imposing my will upon that ancient meeting, I can't affect that decision in any way. It's not really a religious work, more a childish tantrum against Them Folks What Is In Charge And Don't Like Me.)

Really, before accusing people of "not doing their research", it might behoove you to do some of your own....


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22 Feb 2011, 9:25 pm

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http://newsflavor.com/politics/us-politics/the-ulsterman-report-apologies-to-glenn-beck-he-was-right-on-egypt/

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/becks-m ... oc-groups/

Well looks like Glenn is onto something.


Just because there were a few whack jobs who happen to belong to unions present at this hate rally hardly means all unions are supportive of them.
That would be like saying because persons identifying themselves as evangelicals at white supremacist rallies (and they have indeed been present), then all evangelicals must be racists.
Which I know isn't true. And neither are unions as organizations tied to Islamic extremists.

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22 Feb 2011, 9:28 pm

Beck never said that all unions were doing this, what you want him to go get a list and read off the names of individual unions (and could open himself up for a lawsuit in the process if he got one wrong).

Also I take it you agree that Glenn Beck wasn't just spewing hot air.



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22 Feb 2011, 9:30 pm

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Speaking of basic research...

"Obamacare" is a derogatory nickname being given to an insurance plan (not a health-care plan) that has been passed under Pres. Obama, but which was first proposed by then-Rep. Newt Gingrich, House majority leader and Republican, in 1994 (under Pres. Clinton), as part of his Contract On- er, pardon me, Contract With America. It most emphatically does not give health care to everyone, as I am in a position to testify; it merely requires everyone in America above a certain income level to purchase health insurance, and removes the insurance companies' right to deny you coverage retroactively, because they decide that something you've just been diagnosed with is a "preexisting condition" (one of the more infamous reasons to deny cancer care).

In the Book of Revelation (not "Revelations"), there is no "Anti-Christ". There are references in the Epistles of Paul to "antichrists", plural and small "a"; these are people who would lead the faithful astray, by misuse of the Christ's teachings. The Book of Revelation does refer to the Beast, which is to be given divine authority to rule over the world for a certain period of time (not well-defined in the book); however, the people follow the Beast willingly due to the Lord messing with their minds, not because the Beast leads anyone astray. (I'm among those who think that Revelation should properly have been placed under the Apocrypha, not the Canon; sadly, lacking a time machine or any way of imposing my will upon that ancient meeting, I can't affect that decision in any way. It's not really a religious work, more a childish tantrum against Them Folks What Is In Charge And Don't Like Me.)

Really, before accusing people of "not doing their research", it might behoove you to do some of your own....


I find myself in total agreement regarding Revelation as probably being apocryphal in nature. As a matter of fact, both Luther and Calvin were of the same opinion, as are mainline denominations today.

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22 Feb 2011, 9:38 pm

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Beck never said that all unions were doing this, what you want him to go get a list and read off the names of individual unions (and could open himself up for a lawsuit in the process if he got one wrong).

Also I take it you agree that Glenn Beck wasn't just spewing hot air.


No, he's still blowing hot air. And I thought the whole point was that Beck could link the American labor movement to radical Islam. If anything, the fact that you conceded that not all unions were involved, seems to me that you're conceding I'm right.

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22 Feb 2011, 9:40 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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Beck never said that all unions were doing this, what you want him to go get a list and read off the names of individual unions (and could open himself up for a lawsuit in the process if he got one wrong).

Also I take it you agree that Glenn Beck wasn't just spewing hot air.


No, he's still blowing hot air. And I thought the whole point was that Beck could link the American labor movement to radical Islam. If anything, the fact that you conceded that not all unions were involved, seems to me that you're conceding I'm right.

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He said unions, because more than one of them are involved he did not mean every single union is involved. Quite frankly, I'm saying you taking him out of context.



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22 Feb 2011, 10:00 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
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Beck never said that all unions were doing this, what you want him to go get a list and read off the names of individual unions (and could open himself up for a lawsuit in the process if he got one wrong).

Also I take it you agree that Glenn Beck wasn't just spewing hot air.


No, he's still blowing hot air. And I thought the whole point was that Beck could link the American labor movement to radical Islam. If anything, the fact that you conceded that not all unions were involved, seems to me that you're conceding I'm right.

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He said unions, because more than one of them are involved he did not mean every single union is involved. Quite frankly, I'm saying you taking him out of context.


I heard him say unions. He didn't differentiate between them, which is like saying they all are involved.
On top of that, Beck connected the unions protesting in Wisconsin with radical Islam, which as far as I know had no part in that Anti-Israeli hate rally.

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22 Feb 2011, 11:36 pm

I think Beck is pointing out the link between Socialists organizations, U.S. Unions and Middle Eastern Socialists which tend to meet for a lot of back patting get-togethers in Chicago. I don't particularly like Beck's "teacher style" but much of his information is readily available. Like Beck states, "Don't take my word for it, do your own research." It's much easier to label someone a loon than debate the issues. I'd think Aspies would have firsthand knowledge of that tactic.



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23 Feb 2011, 12:47 am

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I think Beck is pointing out the link between Socialists organizations, U.S. Unions and Middle Eastern Socialists which tend to meet for a lot of back patting get-togethers in Chicago. I don't particularly like Beck's "teacher style" but much of his information is readily available. Like Beck states, "Don't take my word for it, do your own research." It's much easier to label someone a loon than debate the issues. I'd think Aspies would have firsthand knowledge of that tactic.


Again, I do not believe that American unions as organizations are associated with radical Islam. I have never seen the proof, and I doubt that it exists.

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23 Feb 2011, 12:59 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
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I think Beck is pointing out the link between Socialists organizations, U.S. Unions and Middle Eastern Socialists which tend to meet for a lot of back patting get-togethers in Chicago. I don't particularly like Beck's "teacher style" but much of his information is readily available. Like Beck states, "Don't take my word for it, do your own research." It's much easier to label someone a loon than debate the issues. I'd think Aspies would have firsthand knowledge of that tactic.


Again, I do not believe that American unions as organizations are associated with radical Islam. I have never seen the proof, and I doubt that it exists.

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I don't think the American Unions realize that they are being played for fools by radical islam.