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18 Jul 2011, 8:17 am

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You didn't hear about said shenanigans from Fox, did you?


Start at 4:00 mark.

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18 Jul 2011, 12:08 pm

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The ultra con media and leftist media remind me alot of the climate scientists on both sides putting the climate readers in areas that promote their viewpoint...meanwhile, nobody knows what the f*ck is really going on.

Everyone in the media has an agenda nowdays...but within that agenda, if you go digging, you can find the truth.

I find there are so many forces in our culture that are causing folks to be polarized and I believe this to keep the underclass from uniting against the power elite because there are more of us than them. They want division in the US so they put out all of this contridicting information to keep us fighting each other so we wont notice what they are really doing.
Thats why I say they are really one party acting as two.


Wow for someone that claims they think Beck is nuts, you sound an awful lot like Beck... 8O



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19 Jul 2011, 12:15 am

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jojobean wrote:
The ultra con media and leftist media remind me alot of the climate scientists on both sides putting the climate readers in areas that promote their viewpoint...meanwhile, nobody knows what the f*ck is really going on.

Everyone in the media has an agenda nowdays...but within that agenda, if you go digging, you can find the truth.

I find there are so many forces in our culture that are causing folks to be polarized and I believe this to keep the underclass from uniting against the power elite because there are more of us than them. They want division in the US so they put out all of this contridicting information to keep us fighting each other so we wont notice what they are really doing.
Thats why I say they are really one party acting as two.


Wow for someone that claims they think Beck is nuts, you sound an awful lot like Beck... 8O


I told you that I am some sort of left-right hybrid

BTW...I dont think Beck is nuts...I think he is very smart, but is a Neo Nazi.
No I am not affilated with the neo nazi's


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19 Jul 2011, 12:20 am

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Inuyasha wrote:
jojobean wrote:
The ultra con media and leftist media remind me alot of the climate scientists on both sides putting the climate readers in areas that promote their viewpoint...meanwhile, nobody knows what the f*ck is really going on.

Everyone in the media has an agenda nowdays...but within that agenda, if you go digging, you can find the truth.

I find there are so many forces in our culture that are causing folks to be polarized and I believe this to keep the underclass from uniting against the power elite because there are more of us than them. They want division in the US so they put out all of this contridicting information to keep us fighting each other so we wont notice what they are really doing.
Thats why I say they are really one party acting as two.


Wow for someone that claims they think Beck is nuts, you sound an awful lot like Beck... 8O


I told you that I am some sort of left-right hybrid

BTW...I dont think Beck is nuts...I think he is very smart, but is a Neo Nazi.
No I am not affilated with the neo nazi's


That comment doesn't even make any sense because last I heard the Neo-Nazis hate Mormon and vice-versa.



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19 Jul 2011, 12:39 am

Inuyasha wrote:
jojobean wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
jojobean wrote:
The ultra con media and leftist media remind me alot of the climate scientists on both sides putting the climate readers in areas that promote their viewpoint...meanwhile, nobody knows what the f*ck is really going on.

Everyone in the media has an agenda nowdays...but within that agenda, if you go digging, you can find the truth.

I find there are so many forces in our culture that are causing folks to be polarized and I believe this to keep the underclass from uniting against the power elite because there are more of us than them. They want division in the US so they put out all of this contridicting information to keep us fighting each other so we wont notice what they are really doing.
Thats why I say they are really one party acting as two.


Wow for someone that claims they think Beck is nuts, you sound an awful lot like Beck... 8O


I told you that I am some sort of left-right hybrid

BTW...I dont think Beck is nuts...I think he is very smart, but is a Neo Nazi.
No I am not affilated with the neo nazi's


That comment doesn't even make any sense because last I heard the Neo-Nazis hate Mormon and vice-versa.


Beck is Mormon???


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19 Jul 2011, 12:48 am

jojobean wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
jojobean wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
jojobean wrote:
The ultra con media and leftist media remind me alot of the climate scientists on both sides putting the climate readers in areas that promote their viewpoint...meanwhile, nobody knows what the f*ck is really going on.

Everyone in the media has an agenda nowdays...but within that agenda, if you go digging, you can find the truth.

I find there are so many forces in our culture that are causing folks to be polarized and I believe this to keep the underclass from uniting against the power elite because there are more of us than them. They want division in the US so they put out all of this contridicting information to keep us fighting each other so we wont notice what they are really doing.
Thats why I say they are really one party acting as two.


Wow for someone that claims they think Beck is nuts, you sound an awful lot like Beck... 8O


I told you that I am some sort of left-right hybrid

BTW...I dont think Beck is nuts...I think he is very smart, but is a Neo Nazi.
No I am not affilated with the neo nazi's


That comment doesn't even make any sense because last I heard the Neo-Nazis hate Mormon and vice-versa.


Beck is Mormon???


Yeah, he became a mormon when he was dealing with his alcoholism and is partially how he overcame it. In fact he early on, admitted that he was an alcoholic when he first was on the air at Fox News. So as I said, your comments do not make any sense.



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19 Jul 2011, 1:38 am

Inuyasha wrote:
jojobean wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
jojobean wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
jojobean wrote:
The ultra con media and leftist media remind me alot of the climate scientists on both sides putting the climate readers in areas that promote their viewpoint...meanwhile, nobody knows what the f*ck is really going on.

Everyone in the media has an agenda nowdays...but within that agenda, if you go digging, you can find the truth.

I find there are so many forces in our culture that are causing folks to be polarized and I believe this to keep the underclass from uniting against the power elite because there are more of us than them. They want division in the US so they put out all of this contridicting information to keep us fighting each other so we wont notice what they are really doing.
Thats why I say they are really one party acting as two.


Wow for someone that claims they think Beck is nuts, you sound an awful lot like Beck... 8O


I told you that I am some sort of left-right hybrid

BTW...I dont think Beck is nuts...I think he is very smart, but is a Neo Nazi.
No I am not affilated with the neo nazi's


That comment doesn't even make any sense because last I heard the Neo-Nazis hate Mormon and vice-versa.


Beck is Mormon???


Yeah, he became a mormon when he was dealing with his alcoholism and is partially how he overcame it. In fact he early on, admitted that he was an alcoholic when he first was on the air at Fox News. So as I said, your comments do not make any sense.


Well I read on rawstory that he got in trouble for Nazi imagery on one of his shows reciently and Edit: 100 Jewish Rabbis called for the removal of his show to tone down the the talk of Nazism. I dont know if his show was removed or not. But that and his pushing to tea party, which most tea partiers I met have ties to the Neo Nazis or are sypathizers, which have led me to that conclusion.


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19 Jul 2011, 5:05 am

Inuyasha wrote:
jojobean wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
jojobean wrote:
The ultra con media and leftist media remind me alot of the climate scientists on both sides putting the climate readers in areas that promote their viewpoint...meanwhile, nobody knows what the f*ck is really going on.

Everyone in the media has an agenda nowdays...but within that agenda, if you go digging, you can find the truth.

I find there are so many forces in our culture that are causing folks to be polarized and I believe this to keep the underclass from uniting against the power elite because there are more of us than them. They want division in the US so they put out all of this contridicting information to keep us fighting each other so we wont notice what they are really doing.
Thats why I say they are really one party acting as two.


Wow for someone that claims they think Beck is nuts, you sound an awful lot like Beck... 8O


I told you that I am some sort of left-right hybrid

BTW...I dont think Beck is nuts...I think he is very smart, but is a Neo Nazi.
No I am not affilated with the neo nazi's


That comment doesn't even make any sense because last I heard the Neo-Nazis hate Mormon and vice-versa.


Actually, Bo Gritz, well known in the eighties and nineties in the militia and Neo-Nazi movements was a Mormon. Also, a former white supremacist recruiter said, the people most likely to join up were Mormons and Baptists, because of the conservatism they're raised with.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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19 Jul 2011, 5:44 am

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I dislike RM and what he represents; thats my opinion and I'm keeping it as far as I'm concerned. Theres a difference between taking wealth seriously, and putting money above human life and happiness.


I hear what your saying, but i dont think this has much to do with money.

When you look at the 'top', the dynasties that are running things, the banking cartels create credit out of thin air, so money has no value to them, its simply a tool that helps creates a power vacumn. Its the people at the bottom and middle who cant create new money directly and arnt in the loop (like murdoch) that see money as valueable because they are helplessly dependant on it.

Murdoch and his ilk, hell bent on temporal power dont put money above human happiness, like a competing priority; they actively seek to destroy happiness and create homelessness, unemployment etc..



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19 Jul 2011, 11:21 am

jojobean wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
jojobean wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
jojobean wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
jojobean wrote:
The ultra con media and leftist media remind me alot of the climate scientists on both sides putting the climate readers in areas that promote their viewpoint...meanwhile, nobody knows what the f*ck is really going on.

Everyone in the media has an agenda nowdays...but within that agenda, if you go digging, you can find the truth.

I find there are so many forces in our culture that are causing folks to be polarized and I believe this to keep the underclass from uniting against the power elite because there are more of us than them. They want division in the US so they put out all of this contridicting information to keep us fighting each other so we wont notice what they are really doing.
Thats why I say they are really one party acting as two.


Wow for someone that claims they think Beck is nuts, you sound an awful lot like Beck... 8O


I told you that I am some sort of left-right hybrid

BTW...I dont think Beck is nuts...I think he is very smart, but is a Neo Nazi.
No I am not affilated with the neo nazi's


That comment doesn't even make any sense because last I heard the Neo-Nazis hate Mormon and vice-versa.


Beck is Mormon???


Yeah, he became a mormon when he was dealing with his alcoholism and is partially how he overcame it. In fact he early on, admitted that he was an alcoholic when he first was on the air at Fox News. So as I said, your comments do not make any sense.


Well I read on rawstory that he got in trouble for Nazi imagery on one of his shows reciently and Edit: 100 Jewish Rabbis called for the removal of his show to tone down the the talk of Nazism. I dont know if his show was removed or not. But that and his pushing to tea party, which most tea partiers I met have ties to the Neo Nazis or are sypathizers, which have led me to that conclusion.


And a bunch of other Jewish individuals turned around and defended Glenn Beck, the "Jewish Rabbis" (whom I question as to whether or not they were really Rabbis) had ties to George Soros, and went after Beck for purely political reasons, there is actually nothing to the Nazi accusation, it was an attempt to intimidate and silence a vocal critic of a far left lunatic.

Mr. Beck gave a history lesson of explaining whom George Soros was, from the man's childhood to his adult life so people would have an idea whom Beck was talking about. What Glenn Beck said about George Soros was factually accurate, it wasn't made up.

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Actually, Bo Gritz, well known in the eighties and nineties in the militia and Neo-Nazi movements was a Mormon. Also, a former white supremacist recruiter said, the people most likely to join up were Mormons and Baptists, because of the conservatism they're raised with.


And I care what a "former" white supremacist says, while some of their members may have been Mormon (which is actually surprising). That doesn't mean Mormons in general wanted a thing to do with the neo-nazis, and in fact if you studied your history at all, you would also know that Mormons aren't exactly fond of Baptists either (there is a historical reason for this).

Furthermore, the neo-nazi claim was a concoction by certain parties in an attempt to discredit Glenn Beck, because he actually was getting under Soros' skin.



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19 Jul 2011, 2:22 pm

That former white supremacist recruiter became a vocal critic of his old pals, and was only explaining how he used to do his job, and who he'd recruit. Pretty legitimate source, I'd say.
By the way, as much as I disagree with the Mormons, we Lutherans have common consensus with them, regarding our dislike of Baptists. Sort of hard to like people who says that your infant baptism is illegitimate, and who criticize us for lacking "born again experiences."

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20 Jul 2011, 12:22 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
That former white supremacist recruiter became a vocal critic of his old pals, and was only explaining how he used to do his job, and who he'd recruit. Pretty legitimate source, I'd say.
By the way, as much as I disagree with the Mormons, we Lutherans have common consensus with them, regarding our dislike of Baptists. Sort of hard to like people who says that your infant baptism is illegitimate, and who criticize us for lacking "born again experiences."

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What I'm referring to is actually referring to violence and murders before the Mormons moved to Nevada over a century ago.



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That former white supremacist recruiter became a vocal critic of his old pals, and was only explaining how he used to do his job, and who he'd recruit. Pretty legitimate source, I'd say.
By the way, as much as I disagree with the Mormons, we Lutherans have common consensus with them, regarding our dislike of Baptists. Sort of hard to like people who says that your infant baptism is illegitimate, and who criticize us for lacking "born again experiences."

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Most the baptists where I come from get together for mainly social and political reasons some are devout, not many. Almost all the leaders in the city go to the same baptist church.

The ones who are intollerant here are the Penicostals who believe that if you sin after you are saved then you hve to be saved all over again...they very judgmental to any religion that does not think like them

The article that I read also said that Beck had used Nazi language many times before the Soros incident, but felt that enough was enough after that

There is alot of racism in the mormon religion so the fact that the neo nazi's seeked them out is not all that suprising


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Inuyasha wrote:
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That former white supremacist recruiter became a vocal critic of his old pals, and was only explaining how he used to do his job, and who he'd recruit. Pretty legitimate source, I'd say.
By the way, as much as I disagree with the Mormons, we Lutherans have common consensus with them, regarding our dislike of Baptists. Sort of hard to like people who says that your infant baptism is illegitimate, and who criticize us for lacking "born again experiences."

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What I'm referring to is actually referring to violence and murders before the Mormons moved to Nevada over a century ago.


Well, that's bad, too.

I'm kidding! I'm Kidding! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Kraichgauer wrote:
That former white supremacist recruiter became a vocal critic of his old pals, and was only explaining how he used to do his job, and who he'd recruit. Pretty legitimate source, I'd say.
By the way, as much as I disagree with the Mormons, we Lutherans have common consensus with them, regarding our dislike of Baptists. Sort of hard to like people who says that your infant baptism is illegitimate, and who criticize us for lacking "born again experiences."

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Most the baptists where I come from get together for mainly social and political reasons some are devout, not many. Almost all the leaders in the city go to the same baptist church.

The ones who are intollerant here are the Penicostals who believe that if you sin after you are saved then you hve to be saved all over again...they very judgmental to any religion that does not think like them

The article that I read also said that Beck had used Nazi language many times before the Soros incident, but felt that enough was enough after that

There is alot of racism in the mormon religion so the fact that the neo nazi's seeked them out is not all that suprising


I admit, I was a little trigger happy going after all Baptists. But like I stated earlier, it's hard to be friendly toward fellow Christians who think your beliefs are so lacking that you're going to hell.

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Kraichgauer wrote:
jojobean wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
That former white supremacist recruiter became a vocal critic of his old pals, and was only explaining how he used to do his job, and who he'd recruit. Pretty legitimate source, I'd say.
By the way, as much as I disagree with the Mormons, we Lutherans have common consensus with them, regarding our dislike of Baptists. Sort of hard to like people who says that your infant baptism is illegitimate, and who criticize us for lacking "born again experiences."

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Most the baptists where I come from get together for mainly social and political reasons some are devout, not many. Almost all the leaders in the city go to the same baptist church.

The ones who are intollerant here are the Penicostals who believe that if you sin after you are saved then you hve to be saved all over again...they very judgmental to any religion that does not think like them

The article that I read also said that Beck had used Nazi language many times before the Soros incident, but felt that enough was enough after that

There is alot of racism in the mormon religion so the fact that the neo nazi's seeked them out is not all that suprising


I admit, I was a little trigger happy going after all Baptists. But like I stated earlier, it's hard to be friendly toward fellow Christians who think your beliefs are so lacking that you're going to hell.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


I understand the feeling...if my penicostal father knew that I am bisexual...he would probably disown me and tell me that I am going to hell. I have bad taste in my mouth for penicostals because of that


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