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16 Oct 2011, 4:37 am

auntblabby wrote:
it seems to me that there are lots of posters here on WP who are so high functioning that whatever aspie proclivities they have can be conveniently ignored. they remind me of the character "O'brien" in orwell's novel "1984" who was, as a privileged inner party member, able to turn off his telescreen and not listen to the constant harangue in the background. the high-functioning types have existential privileges i would love to have.


I don't act like O'Brien though. I am not a disgusting psychotpath who works for a controlling order and tortures people.



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16 Oct 2011, 5:30 am

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Dear Aunt Blabby, I categorize myself as 'high functioning', but the proclivities, in my case the stimming and the funny noises are not conveniently ignored, rather, it is a constant fight/effort to NOT do the things I feel compelled to do.


the high functioners i was thinking of, are the various braggart posters who are always saying how much money they easily make and how well they get along in society and finding high-paying professional jobs and how easily they get mates to have sex with, as though it were easy as falling off a log for them to do these things that i can only dream about. i was expressing my believe that these people must be able to turn down their aspie symptoms in order to function so extremely well. THAT is what i mean by "high functioning."



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16 Oct 2011, 5:40 am

Gedrene wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
it seems to me that there are lots of posters here on WP who are so high functioning that whatever aspie proclivities they have can be conveniently ignored. they remind me of the character "O'brien" in orwell's novel "1984" who was, as a privileged inner party member, able to turn off his telescreen and not listen to the constant harangue in the background. the high-functioning types have existential privileges i would love to have.


I don't act like O'Brien though. I am not a disgusting psychotpath who works for a controlling order and tortures people.


obviously i wasn't calling anybody a nasty control freak like the o'brien character, i was strictly comparing his ability to turn off the harangue that his underlings could not turn off. i don't believe the uber-high functioners [the ones who claim to easily snag mates and high-paying dream jobs and deal well with other people] are really much like other posters here who must struggle with things. such high folk are like the big fish in a little pond. i would be a lot more comfortable if they had their own forum for themselves, so as not to so frequently remind me of my existential shortcomings. :idea:



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16 Oct 2011, 7:59 am

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I think apies are lonely and sad because they have no friends and they overthink things. They have no hope for a life and most them live with their parents. When they were bullied in grade school.


Meaningless generalizations create a meaningless post. If you insist on posting this type of drivel again try the "Random Discussions" subforum.



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16 Oct 2011, 8:02 am

Dear Aunt Blabby, Thank you for the clarification, I could not really understand some of the references to HFA's and apparent attitude or arrogance (from the posts of numerous people, not just you, I hope I didn't give that impression) I haven't read any that that I recall, but admittedly I have my favorite discussions and my favorite people, and I visit where I feel welcome, and if I found an unfriendly location or group, I wouldn't return....Sylkat



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16 Oct 2011, 9:17 am

Improvise, overcome, adapt.

Thats pretty much what it's about and it takes time to learn to do that even half right which is about where I am.
We cannot wait for the world to adapt to us.



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16 Oct 2011, 11:53 am

Dear Raptor, You said it all! Except how hard it is to spend so much energy trying to be a person I'm not because I am not allowed to be (or behave) as I was intended or designed. Sylkat



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16 Oct 2011, 12:08 pm

Sylkat wrote:
Dear Raptor, You said it all! Except how hard it is to spend so much energy trying to be a person I'm not because I am not allowed to be (or behave) as I was intended or designed. Sylkat


I think what Raptor means is that we should become a facsimile of people that by any stretch of the imagination have faults in them that we see and avoid, but we must bend to other's will because we're autistic and autistic means thousands of different things that never match up except in one fashion: They are a disability. Sometimes it's a disability because it's a problem nobody knows how to deal with the issue in a proper fashion, sometimes because it is actually a disability and sometimes because that it must be a disability because it's weird and real people aren't weird.



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16 Oct 2011, 12:28 pm

Gedrene wrote:
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Dear Raptor, You said it all! Except how hard it is to spend so much energy trying to be a person I'm not because I am not allowed to be (or behave) as I was intended or designed. Sylkat


I think what Raptor means is that we should become a facsimile of people that by any stretch of the imagination have faults in them that we see and avoid, but we must bend to other's will because we're autistic and autistic means thousands of different things that never match up except in one fashion: They are a disability. Sometimes it's a disability because it's a problem nobody knows how to deal with the issue in a proper fashion, sometimes because it is actually a disability and sometimes because that it must be a disability because it's weird and real people aren't weird.


To sum up what Raptor means is that it's an NT world and we have to live in it so do the best you can with the cards you've been dealt.

When in Rome............



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16 Oct 2011, 12:38 pm

Raptor wrote:
Gedrene wrote:
Sylkat wrote:
Dear Raptor, You said it all! Except how hard it is to spend so much energy trying to be a person I'm not because I am not allowed to be (or behave) as I was intended or designed. Sylkat


I think what Raptor means is that we should become a facsimile of people that by any stretch of the imagination have faults in them that we see and avoid, but we must bend to other's will because we're autistic and autistic means thousands of different things that never match up except in one fashion: They are a disability. Sometimes it's a disability because it's a problem nobody knows how to deal with the issue in a proper fashion, sometimes because it is actually a disability and sometimes because that it must be a disability because it's weird and real people aren't weird.


To sum up what Raptor means is that it's an NT world and we have to live in it so do the best you can with the cards you've been dealt.

When in Rome............


When in Rome sack and run out of town anyone who tries to force your submission.



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16 Oct 2011, 12:56 pm

Gedrene wrote:
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Gedrene wrote:
Sylkat wrote:
Dear Raptor, You said it all! Except how hard it is to spend so much energy trying to be a person I'm not because I am not allowed to be (or behave) as I was intended or designed. Sylkat


I think what Raptor means is that we should become a facsimile of people that by any stretch of the imagination have faults in them that we see and avoid, but we must bend to other's will because we're autistic and autistic means thousands of different things that never match up except in one fashion: They are a disability. Sometimes it's a disability because it's a problem nobody knows how to deal with the issue in a proper fashion, sometimes because it is actually a disability and sometimes because that it must be a disability because it's weird and real people aren't weird.


To sum up what Raptor means is that it's an NT world and we have to live in it so do the best you can with the cards you've been dealt.

When in Rome............


When in Rome sack and run out of town anyone who tries to force your submission.


Dream on.
You'll be the one sacked and run out of town.
It's not about forcing submission but adapting to your environment.



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16 Oct 2011, 1:00 pm

Raptor wrote:
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When in Rome sack and run out of town anyone who tries to force your submission.


Dream on.
You'll be the one sacked and run out of town.
It's not about forcing submission but adapting to your environment.

I said that anyone who tries to force me to be what I am not for their personal pleasure is full of arse. Not only because it isn't needed but because the only thing that maintains it is ignorance.

Why don't you stop preaching about adaptation and start thinking about about helping your own kind against those who are stuck up their arse?



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16 Oct 2011, 1:04 pm

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It's not about forcing submission but adapting to your environment.


So you do believe in evolution ;) Just kidding, I think you're right, almost nobody is going to change for the individual with difficulties, best to adapt and do your best to work around disadvantages


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16 Oct 2011, 1:24 pm

Gedrene wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Gedrene wrote:

When in Rome sack and run out of town anyone who tries to force your submission.


Dream on.
You'll be the one sacked and run out of town.
It's not about forcing submission but adapting to your environment.

I said that anyone who tries to force me to be what I am not for their personal pleasure is full of arse. Not only because it isn't needed but because the only thing that maintains it is ignorance.

Why don't you stop preaching about adaptation and start thinking about about helping your own kind against those who are stuck up their arse?


You're really grasping at straws now! :roll:
Adaptation is what it's all about since the world cannot be expected to adapt to us.
How hard can that be to understand?????



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16 Oct 2011, 2:18 pm

Yeah we aspies have to change because the world will not change for us.



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16 Oct 2011, 2:32 pm

Raptor wrote:
Gedrene wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Gedrene wrote:

When in Rome sack and run out of town anyone who tries to force your submission.


Dream on.
You'll be the one sacked and run out of town.
It's not about forcing submission but adapting to your environment.

I said that anyone who tries to force me to be what I am not for their personal pleasure is full of arse. Not only because it isn't needed but because the only thing that maintains it is ignorance.

Why don't you stop preaching about adaptation and start thinking about about helping your own kind against those who are stuck up their arse?


You're really grasping at straws now! :roll:
Adaptation is what it's all about since the world cannot be expected to adapt to us.
How hard can that be to understand?????


Because for starters it isn't about adapting since why should I adapt to an imposition that NTs themselves recognise as such?

I have no problem with learning how to do anything wrothwhile but much of the time people complain about us in a way that is ultimately petty, and I would even go so far as to say that much of the time the problem is simply narrow-minded ignorance.

If anything 'adapting' to what other people do has produced people that by no means are actually adapted at all, and are trapped in this vacuous position where they are simply mirrors of their environment. Some NTs understand this, many do not care, some try and trample over us. Why don't you rather than be nothing more than a simple animal and adapt to your environment instead try and be human and adapt your environment.

Anyways I don't need someone telling me some stuffy, cowardly fatalism like there's no way they'd listen so we might as well bend our backs over. Who with a spine says that?