military can now detain us citizens without any rights

Post Reply New Topic

The bill is an "anticipation" of large scale terrorist activity and the need to detain those individuals without revealing the intelligence gathering techniques used to detect them.

The danger of course, is that the definition of terrorist is in the eye of the beholder ... Anybody can claim that anybody else is a terrorist.

Our elected representatives would quickly tell you that there is no intention to use this bill to circumvent the 4th Amendment for anybody other than a terrorist.

But, since they don't really know what a terrorist looks like when he doesn't look like a foreigner, there should be at least a reasonable concern -- and not just by those of us who consider themselves libertarian.

I don't think it is a coincidence that many GoP legislators are calling the Occupy protests terrorist-like without reason...

I as much as I want to believe that it might be remotely possible that congress might actually believe that this law is a good idea, (for some reason that only makes sense to a politician) but I just can't do it. Have you seen some of the things that qualify you as a suspected terrorist?

oh here's a good one ANYONE WITH MORE THAN 10 DAYS OF FOOD IN THEIR HOME

what a bunch of fear mongering BS

It's a scary world we live in. Where anything the government doesn't like in the physical realm can get a 'terrorist' sticker can be detained and butt-tazered and anything it doesn't like in a virtual realm like the Internet can simply be blocked, altered or switched off. The NDAA goes against the very constitution Presidential candidates use as talking points, and the SOPA goes against the very reason the Internet was even created.

I guess this kind of thing was going to happen eventually in our country and everyone chose to either ignore or deny all the warning signs. I think the fact that our millitary was caught raping and torturing people in the Middle East and served very little prison time for it should have given everyone a wake-up call but I guess people either just didn't give a s**t or were secretly happy about this because they felt that all muslims are terrorists and deserve genocide for 9/11. Also I'm guessing this means it's now OK to use racial profiling and anyone who even looks like a muslim can qualify as a terrorist and be sent off to be tortured and murdered and never heard from again.

But looking at Rome and Egypt I have faith in the fact that no great empire lasts forever and eventually my country will fall from power and not be able to bully third world countries anymore. I think both of the world wars proved that one country can't defeat the entire world and if they try they will always get what's coming to them.

This is what sparked the French Revolution. The King sould sign a lettre de cachet and throw you in the Bastille, no lawyer, no indictment, no trial, no appeal, no parole eligibility date. You were gone and disappeared if the government had a whim to get rid of you. They used to refer to such tactics as "medieval" along with the practice of putting suspects to the torture in order to elicit information from them. Well, I guess everything old is new again. And no one in the Congress, in the Senate, and certainly not President Obama, uttered a word of protest when this became law.I guess we can take the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights and use them to line the trash can.

Its all so sad isn't it. yet people think this is us being paranoid. its just a simple fact. I cant help it if truth is stranger then fiction.