Another teabagger shooting spree...oh wait...

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Ancalagon
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19 Aug 2012, 2:58 pm

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You just cannot read things honestly if they have an opposing viewpoint.

You've said this before and I would appreciate it if you would stop. It's an insult, and it is based on assumptions you're making about me and how you think I think.

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Explain how this is not racist if this is what you are talking about.

When I saw the news article on it several years ago, I concluded that the person involved was racist. The argument that he made, at least how I remember it, was not. What I presented was a hypothetical situation, regardless of whether it had elements drawn from my memory of what I had heard about some actual event.


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19 Aug 2012, 5:01 pm

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I was not terribly interested in finding out details about the FRC itself (although I wouldn't mind it particularly), I was interested in why people were objecting to it. People were saying, repeatedly, things with as much information content as 'they're all jerks'. What they weren't saying is why they're all jerks.
No wonder you didn't notice my explanation for why I object to the FRC. It's just a detail you aren't interested in:

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To be fair, they didn't say the SPLC inspired this attack, but that them being the victims of this attack makes the SPLC's labeling false. Which is obviously ridiculous since they don't just consider homosexuality unnatural, they want it outlawed. Sounds pretty hateful to me.
You ask for specific criticism and yet you aren't interested in details about the FRC itself which is exactly what makes the criticism specific. Nice catch 22 standards you got there buddy. And you wonder why people accuse you of dishonesty...



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19 Aug 2012, 5:13 pm

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That just made the fire alarms go off in my head. But I'll just assume the best about Ancalagon; that hopefully he was only playing devil's advocate.

Thank you for not automatically assuming the worst.

If you're talking about the potential argument about interracial marriage, then yes, I was playing devil's advocate. I practically said as much in the post itself, so it actually disturbs me a bit that you're the only one who noticed that.

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I can tell you right now that anyone who thinks any different races are incompatible is a racist.

Are you saying that you would assume that anyone with that theory is a racist, or are you saying that having that theory, by itself, constitutes racism? If it's the second, then I think we may have different assumption about the definition of the word 'racism'.

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That entire statement makes no sense anyway; not interested in finding details but tired of seeing "unsubstantiated and nonspecific criticisms"

I was not terribly interested in finding out details about the FRC itself (although I wouldn't mind it particularly), I was interested in why people were objecting to it. People were saying, repeatedly, things with as much information content as 'they're all jerks'. What they weren't saying is why they're all jerks.

@iBlockhead: I'm sorry, I don't have a specific source for you. I remember hearing about it on a news article about 3 or 4 years ago. There was a guy refusing to do something (a marriage license maybe?) and getting in legal trouble over it, since he didn't actually have the authority to do that. The hypothetical argument I presented was what the guy said as well as I can remember from a couple of years ago. That's about all I can remember about it.


I'm saying that anyone who says such a thing as certain races are incompatible is racist. And why would someone have such a theory without being racist?

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19 Aug 2012, 5:35 pm

Ancalagon wrote:
iBlockhead wrote:
You just cannot read things honestly if they have an opposing viewpoint.

You've said this before and I would appreciate it if you would stop. It's an insult, and it is based on assumptions you're making about me and how you think I think.[/quote[


You just ignored at least half of my post, much like how you ignored an entire conversation and other similar posts to make a false statment :lol:. I guess I am not getting that answer of if you actually knew about the FRC beforehand.

How is it possible that you completely understand everything someone against homosexuality says, but have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE where someone who tolerates homosexuality is coming from?

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iBlockhead wrote:
Explain how this is not racist if this is what you are talking about.

When I saw the news article on it several years ago, I concluded that the person involved was racist. The argument that he made, at least how I remember it, was not. What I presented was a hypothetical situation, regardless of whether it had elements drawn from my memory of what I had heard about some actual event.


I think the argument is, "interracial couples should not marry because children will eventually grow up in broken homes." Like that never happens to couples of the same sex (which makes this action even more laughable). I must be missing something here.

Saying races are incompatible, but all are good, is like saying "I have friends who are ______." It is a lame excuse to try to pass off that you are not racist. You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to use this to indirectly state that people who are against same-sex marriage might not be homophobic (which is what it really is about). You just made something up to do that.

By the way, can I nickname you "Pokey"? I mean, The Blockheads are the rivals of Gumby and Pokey, and we can pretend that the G on the side of the Blockhead can stand for 'gay'. You are essentially poking right now, so it seems to fit symbolically.



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19 Aug 2012, 9:17 pm

@Kraichgauer: This is going to be my last post in this thread, since I'm tired of everyone insulting me. If you want to continue our part of the conversation, send me a PM, and I'll be happy to do that. If not, that's fine too.


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19 Aug 2012, 9:26 pm

Ancalagon wrote:
@Kraichgauer: This is going to be my last post in this thread, since I'm tired of everyone insulting me. If you want to continue our part of the conversation, send me a PM, and I'll be happy to do that. If not, that's fine too.


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19 Aug 2012, 10:35 pm

I find it hilarious that the conservatards freak out about gay marriage when the hetero divorce rate is 70%. Defending the "sanctity of marriage" is like guarding the chastity of a crackwhore!



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19 Aug 2012, 11:17 pm

I find the notion that extending marriage to gays would threaten "traditional" marriages ridiculous. Gays can get married all they want - my wife and I will still have the same marriage.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer