The Major Factor underlying the Increase in Rampage Killings

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Obviously you don't stop a tank with a rifle, shoot down an A-10 with a shotgun, or ambush a squad with a handgun.
Guerilla warfare is about making the enemy uncomfortable by making them feel vulnerable. You don’t defeat them on the battlefield but you do smaller yet painful little things rob them of their confidence and demoralize them. Rot them away at the foundation.
Read up on it. I have other things to do this evening besides spell it all out in detail.

I'm well aware of how and what guerrillas do. But if they achieve victory, it's going to take years after uncomfortable years. And it's not going to be a strain on just the regular army they're at war with, but on themselves, as well. And the thing about guerrilla warfare is, that strain and bitterness does a lot to dehumanize the fighters, bringing them to commit acts they would not have previously done. Petty ugly stuff, if you ask me.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

I ticked excessive quoting

The Major Factor underlying the Increase in Rampage Killings

other, the copycat factor has changed in the last 3 decades, white males used to be older than present

Ugly as it is it may be necessary and ultimately better than the alternative.

Links are my memory.

Though they're all easy to find (Google a name and type in Asperger's next to it), but by my memory (which is too good):

-Anders: professor said he has AS, Tourette's and Narcissistic PD.
-Martin Bryant: Crown's psychiatrist diagnosed him with it (the refutation of this provides incorrect information regarding Asperger's and actually supports it); mother says he has it too
-Adam: lots of people; the former director of school security who said his mother showed him documents containing the label Asperger's would be the one to look to

-Gifford's killer: said to have Schizophrenia (same and equal level of sources as those above)
-"Joker"; ditto

Cho: selective Mutism, though he did display autistic symptoms that couldn't be explained by Selective Mutism -- that's speculation though
Columbine: ADHD for one and Anti-social PD for the other

Lots of mental disorders among the people who do these things. I don't know what it means.

Also lack of good policy at Autism Speaks may be a relevant point

SSRI's.

I believe it was Clausewitz who had warned that in war, one must be careful with destroying your enemies, as you can in the end destroy yourself.
And Nietzsche had warned, if you look into the abyss too long, the abyss stares back.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

All of the previous mass shooters were prescribed antidepressants, stimulants or antipsychotics. With the Adam Lanza case, I get the feeling someone else may have been involved.

I blame the increasing inequality, particularly as this is a manifestation of this idea that a narrowing circle of "winners" have the right to trample upon the widening masses of "losers" who are said to deserve this abuse ... the disempowerment of millions of people that's ongoing, and the resulting increase in mistrust throughout society. Though Mr. Lanza was from a privileged background, his personal issues meant that his status in his own community was lower, and as the wider society says such people can and should be abused and reminded of their inferiority, it's clear that he was subject to such pressures and made to feel powerless and without value.

1. Massacres are not increasing. Note the far-left source. http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-mass-shootings-common-20121218,0,6511082.story

2. The number of murder suspects claiming the antidepressant defense is far to small to do a FDA study to be sensitive enough even if it was doubled in size. Each class of medication would have to be tested separately and existing psychiatric problems would have to be ruled out as a contributing factor. Not only are the odds of someone who will kill some one at any point in their entire LIFTETIME extremely remote, but even if you found that 1 DATA POINT, you would still have to rule out other contributing factors. That would be one expensive study that no one would take seriously enough for peer review.

3.

WWAAAAHHHH!! !! I WASN'T BORN WITH A SILVER SPOON UP MY ASS AND POPULAR, SO I'M GOING TO HAVE A PITY PARTY IN FRONT OF MY XBOX AND THEN KILL PEOPLE!! !
[/sarcasm]

Seriously, there is a lot more going wrong with people like that than the media even catches a hint about! Class warfare BS is the least of their problems!

The incident described below pretty much escaped under the radar of the other incident, as one person was murdered in this school shooting and there was an associated murder in another location, but this individual provided a suicide note to describe his frustrations with his father, his described condition, and even his birth. He described himself in the note as "self diagnosed", according to the report. It is potentially a good thing he didn't have access to an "assault" weapon in the incident. He also expressed anger at society, but not for the reasons one might anticipate.

This incident is classified as a school shooting but not a rampage killing, because of the number of people killed and/or injured. 2012 was a particularly bad year for school shootings, in the last couple of decades, but several of them were suicides only. The method of shooting, with a bow and arrow, was extremely unusual, in this case, as this is the only reported shooting using that method since the records started being kept, according to the Wiki link below. It is also the only incident reported where someone killed themselves with a knife, but that was likely because they did not have a gun.

I think the suicide note provides pretty good evidence that it can be almost impossible to determine what a person's rationale actually is for these type of killings, when there is no access to their thoughts. If there was no suicide note or similar voiced concern to a family friend, it's not likely this motive would have ever been guessed by anyone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sc ... ates#2010s

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/19/wy ... p=obinsite

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I remember reading about that case, one of my gun boards linked to it as an example of a school "shooting" that didn't involve a gun. Weird and tragic for sure, at least he seemed to contain his rage to people he actually knew and held responsible rather than random strangers.

While gang violence and robberies might fit under the category of Massacres that Fox has constructed, they do not fit under the category of Rampage Killings/Spree Killings. Fox included robberies and gang violence in his numbers; Mother Jones excluded those variables that do not meet the definition of a rampage killing or spree killing.

The type of Massacres that Fox identified happen on average less than every three weeks, according to the broad data he used from FBI and Police Data. And his data stops abruptly at 2009, not inclusive of 2012, that had the highest numbers of rampage/killing spree incidences and bodies counted on record. And note, the criticism identified on the Mother Jones research, was provided in a blog in an opinion piece.

At least from the story, it appears that his father did not provide him that opportunity if there was any intention of expanding the body count. He did not provide any intention of expanding it in his suicide note.

http://trib.com/news/local/casper/son-k ... c5e75.html

All have the motive of killing multiple people. The Mother Jones article spins the statistics to count only the more emotionally charged incidents.