Parent of shooting spree victim pleads to NRA

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I think attempts to beurocratise gun ownership are idealistic and impossible to enforce. Guns are out there. The cat is out of the bag, the horse has left the stable. I'm fortunate to live in an enclave where gun play is rare, but if this were to change, I wouldn't hesitate to carry a gun. It would be nice to go back to the Garden of Eden, but it's not going to happen.

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this country needs more like you.

some reasons that some of us are not eager to have/use a gun-

*fear of revenge of the survivors [aka "hatfields and mccoys"]-
*distrust in one's own judgment in a complex situation, it is all too easy to do the wrong thing, even cops goof at it-
*fears of being second-guessed by local prosecutors and resultant legal troubles/fees-
*fear of killing somebody, there are those of us who still understand that killing is a hell of a thing-
*fear of killing oneself in a despondent moment-
*fear of killing somebody else for no good reason
*reluctance to be lumped into the same category of human as some very unpleasant people who are notable gun enthusiasts-
*guns are deafening, silencers are mostly illegal and frowned upon by law enforcement
*fear that gun will be taken and used against one
*fear of shooting oneself accidentally when rushed by exigency of self-defense

/\ I beg your pardon? We enjoy recreational shooting. As an added benefit of that it means we'll more likely be able to hit what we aim at whilst you'll more likely miss and send bullets off to unknown destinies and only annoy your assailant.
If you can go back and find any thread where any pro-gunner on this forum has said or implied they were eager to waste someone, go find it and post it here.
I know more about the potential liabilities and pitfalls of armed self defense than you ever will. Guns themselves are my hobby, that's why I know so much about them.

east is east, west is west, and never the twain shall meet. go ahead and have your fun, I never said I wanted your guns. i never said i wanted dox's guns. all I ever said was that I find violence to be ugly, and that the existence of guns facilitates killing on a vast scale. to get this derailed thread back on track, Rodgers would not have been able to kill nearly as many people had he been equipped with only a knife. you and yours seem to be expressing that having such qualms goes beyond the pale and that wishing there was no need of them to be an unforgiveable sin. I will never understand this. as an aside, I believe that if all ammo had to be produced from scratch, that people like Rodgers would not have been able to do what he did as readily, maybe slowing him down enough for such plans to lose the name of action.

Sure. That is a point neither human or squid can argue. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. But guns help people kill people faster.

First off, this thread has no track to be on of off. It was started for the sole intent of sowing discord, the same thing the OP accuses others of.
Getting back to the gun thingy: Fantasising about what if guns didn't exist is delusional. Wish in one hand and s**t in the other and see which one fills up. They do exist and will continue to exist as long as this planet is inhabited by human beings. They cannot be de-invented and they cannot be taken out of the hands of crazy people. The only thing common sense gun control does is make the slope steeper for the ones that need a gun to defend themselves from the ones that don't bother to follow any laws and just steal what they want, guns included. We've been over this and over this in countless threads over the years.