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09 Apr 2015, 4:02 pm

More police work from New Jersey:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... a-man.html


The handcuffed man died from injuries sustained in the mauling.



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09 Apr 2015, 4:24 pm

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The handcuffed man died from injuries sustained in the mauling.

He died from respiratory distress which could have been caused by drugs, possibly in conjunction with other factors. The video doesn't show anything out of the ordinary.



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09 Apr 2015, 7:28 pm

Read the story.



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09 Apr 2015, 8:03 pm

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The video doesn't show anything out of the ordinary.

Um, that's kind of the problem here, most people see excessive force resulting in death and they see something totally out of the ordinary. I mean if you're cool with a paramilitary police force exercising judicial powers, that's fine, but in western society you won't find many supporters of the idea-- our legal system has evolved a tad bit since caveman justice.



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09 Apr 2015, 9:05 pm

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...most people see excessive force resulting in death and they see something totally out of the ordinary.

I don't think they do, because the video doesn't show anything suggesting the use of "excessive force resulting in death." I think you see what you want to see, otherwise known as confirmation bias.



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09 Apr 2015, 9:12 pm

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It's time to pass a law that recognizes supporters of the Police, a known network of criminal gangs and terrorist organizations, as collaborators offering aid and comfort to an occupying enemy force, and authorizing the execution of such traitors.

I wouldn't be surprised if you expect this alleged occupying enemy force to arrest and execute their own supporters.


Nah. I'm happy to carry out that sentence myself if given legal coverage and/or during a period of general armed insurrection.


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09 Apr 2015, 9:21 pm

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09 Apr 2015, 10:22 pm

Humanaut wrote:
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...most people see excessive force resulting in death and they see something totally out of the ordinary.

I don't think they do, because the video doesn't show anything suggesting the use of "excessive force resulting in death." I think you see what you want to see, otherwise known as confirmation bias.


I think you're of a minority opinion - if not of an opinion of one.


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09 Apr 2015, 10:47 pm

I'm pretty sure most people are unable to see what is not there.



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09 Apr 2015, 10:55 pm

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I'm pretty sure most people are unable to see what is not there.



A cop shooting a fleeing man in the back? Or the other video of the cops letting the dog maul the cuffed man? Yeah, that's pretty apparent.


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09 Apr 2015, 11:03 pm

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A cop shooting a fleeing man in the back? Yeah, that's pretty apparent.

Sure, but that's not the case I'm referring to.



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09 Apr 2015, 11:09 pm

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A cop shooting a fleeing man in the back? Yeah, that's pretty apparent.

Sure, but that's not the case I'm referring to.


Actually, I had just revised what I had written to include the second video when I realized I had left the second example out, but you beat me to the punch before I could.


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09 Apr 2015, 11:16 pm

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I had just revised what I had written to include the second video when I realized I had left the second example out, but you beat me to the punch before I could.

Fair enough.

The Scott case seems pretty clear. It cannot be interpreted as anything but murder as far as I can understand.



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10 Apr 2015, 2:45 pm

The video is deplorable. It seems the officer lost control and once he reached for his firearm, a life was going to be lost. I know it's going to sound like Hollywood BS, but could he not have fired a few shots in the air? Btw, I don't really believe in shoot to wound, that's mostly nonsense, right? If the taser is ineffective, and there is an immediate threat to the officer or others, then yes, lethal force is justified, but if the taser fails and an unarmed individual is running away they should be taken to the ground - tackling the person by hand.


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10 Apr 2015, 7:46 pm

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The video is deplorable. It seems the officer lost control and once he reached for his firearm, a life was going to be lost. I know it's going to sound like Hollywood BS, but could he not have fired a few shots in the air? Btw, I don't really believe in shoot to wound, that's mostly nonsense, right? If the taser is ineffective, and there is an immediate threat to the officer or others, then yes, lethal force is justified, but if the taser fails and an unarmed individual is running away they should be taken to the ground - tackling the person by hand.


That would require exercise and effort, [insert police joke here].



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11 Apr 2015, 10:12 am

Fleeing from law enforcement in the US seems to be a rational thing to do since you can't trust the police anymore in the US. What if a police officer shoots at you unprovoked? Would you just stay there and get shot? No, you would run for your life.