Murder trial in New Braunfels, Texas -- Bully died in fight
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eric76 wrote:
Verdict is in
Not guilty of murder or manslaughter
Guilty of misdemeanor assault
Not guilty of murder or manslaughter
Guilty of misdemeanor assault
Thankfully the kid won't have a felony conviction haunting him for the rest of his life.
What sort of sentence do you think he can expect?
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Kraichgauer wrote:
eric76 wrote:
Verdict is in
Not guilty of murder or manslaughter
Guilty of misdemeanor assault
Not guilty of murder or manslaughter
Guilty of misdemeanor assault
Thankfully the kid won't have a felony conviction haunting him for the rest of his life.
What sort of sentence do you think he can expect?
I have no idea. These days it seems like the courts try not to put first time offenders in jail so maybe he can get probation. From what I've heard about reform schools, I hope he doesn't get sent to one of those hellholes.
The kid was defending himself. He should be acquitted. I live in Texas and when I was bullied relentlessly the school did not try to stop the bullying because the bullies were a part of the football team. If the schools will not defend the victims, then it is up to the victim to defend themselves.
TheLeechLord wrote:
The kid was defending himself. He should be acquitted. I live in Texas and when I was bullied relentlessly the school did not try to stop the bullying because the bullies were a part of the football team. If the schools will not defend the victims, then it is up to the victim to defend themselves.
There was one recent case in Ohio in which a teacher was fired for confronting a bully.
From http://www.yahoo.com/parenting/teacher-i-was-fired-for-publicly-shaming-bully-119289264107.html:
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Nicole LeMire, a fifth grade teacher at Glen Oak Elementary in Lewis Center, Ohio, caught a student blowing his nose on other students, pushing them, and using inappropriate language, she told NBC 4. In response, she addressed his action in front of the class. “I said, ‘do you know how your actions and your words are hurting other students and your friends?’” she said. “That’s it.”
But the school district says her exchange with the boy amounted to bullying in its own right. “On April 14, 2014, you asked students in your classroom to take turns saying how the student (‘Student A’) had acted badly, violated rule or insulted them, and/or why Student A was annoying or had no friends,” the school said in a “Notice of Intention To Consider Termination of Employment Contracts” that was sent to LeMire on May 5. The school district provided the letter to Yahoo Parenting along with LeMire’s personnel file. “You required Student A to listen to classmates complaints and refused to allow him to respond or defend himself against potentially embellished complaints.”
The letter states that LeMire “exercised poor professional judgment” when she tried to resolve the incident, after the bully’s parents reported it to the school. “On April 15, 2015, you held a class meeting to discuss the incident… During this meeting, students were crying, and one student left the room crying and looking for a guidance counselor.”
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Dorothy Espelage, a professor of educational philosophy at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign and an expert on bullying, says that LeMire’s choice to publicly confront the bully is exactly what teachers should be doing. “We want teachers to have an open conversation about bullying in their classrooms,” she tells Yahoo Parenting. “At the beginning of the year, teachers should talk to their students about how we want, as a class, to create a climate that says we don’t accept bullying and that includes calling kids out on their bad behavior.”
While Espelage doesn’t know exactly what happened in LeMire’s case – “it’s a he said-she said, maybe she did take it too far” – she says research shows that kids will engage in less bullying behavior when they see adults address it publicly. “You want to call out the behavior because the victim deserves to have an adult say ‘we’re not going to tolerate this,’” she says. “Kids are paying attention. Teachers need to be role models, and it seems she did what experts would agree with, because there has to be a climate where bullied kids feel supported.”
But the school district says her exchange with the boy amounted to bullying in its own right. “On April 14, 2014, you asked students in your classroom to take turns saying how the student (‘Student A’) had acted badly, violated rule or insulted them, and/or why Student A was annoying or had no friends,” the school said in a “Notice of Intention To Consider Termination of Employment Contracts” that was sent to LeMire on May 5. The school district provided the letter to Yahoo Parenting along with LeMire’s personnel file. “You required Student A to listen to classmates complaints and refused to allow him to respond or defend himself against potentially embellished complaints.”
The letter states that LeMire “exercised poor professional judgment” when she tried to resolve the incident, after the bully’s parents reported it to the school. “On April 15, 2015, you held a class meeting to discuss the incident… During this meeting, students were crying, and one student left the room crying and looking for a guidance counselor.”
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Dorothy Espelage, a professor of educational philosophy at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign and an expert on bullying, says that LeMire’s choice to publicly confront the bully is exactly what teachers should be doing. “We want teachers to have an open conversation about bullying in their classrooms,” she tells Yahoo Parenting. “At the beginning of the year, teachers should talk to their students about how we want, as a class, to create a climate that says we don’t accept bullying and that includes calling kids out on their bad behavior.”
While Espelage doesn’t know exactly what happened in LeMire’s case – “it’s a he said-she said, maybe she did take it too far” – she says research shows that kids will engage in less bullying behavior when they see adults address it publicly. “You want to call out the behavior because the victim deserves to have an adult say ‘we’re not going to tolerate this,’” she says. “Kids are paying attention. Teachers need to be role models, and it seems she did what experts would agree with, because there has to be a climate where bullied kids feel supported.”
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