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The kind of terrorists who show no mercy toward anyone.

Seriously, WTF is wrong with people these days?!

But monsters deserve no more mercy than they have shown to their victims.

In answer to gun-control freaks ...

Laws don't stop terrorists; bullets do.

In answer to the revenge freaks ...

Once they're stopped, bring them to justice.

Last edited by Fnord on 02 Dec 2015, 7:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Take your pick:
*Easy access to weapons
*No outlet for emotions
*Society not funding mental health services
*Society being hard on those who have disabilities
*Society tearing men down for mental health issues
*Society over working everyone
*Lots of people barely making ends meat
*People too stressed with no time to unwind
*People not getting the help they need.
*People being hateful
Etc...

Add in the fact that the U.S. population owns almost 50% of all the guns in the world, you get big mess.

Three armed men in a coordinated attack?
This is not a crazy old loner like the guy who shot up planned parenthood, nor is it a columbine type attack. Its sounds like a professional terrorist attack following the Paris/Mumbai blue print.

Why attack disabled kids?

Why attack a Paris cafe? Or a rock concert? Or a Mumbai subway station?

It creates terror.

Might be North American locals recruited to ISIS via the net.

Unlikely, unless the only people killed were the staff. A domestic terrorist would primarily go after those responsible for the things they dislike rather than the victims of such. They still see they're honorable in some way.

You need a pretty twisted ideology for a group of people to plan and attack the disabled, and said ideology sees them as the enemy.

*Easy access to weapons. Not enough weapons, actually. The victims were unarmed.
*No outlet for emotions. Not enough drugs, alcohol, porn, and sporting events.
*Society not funding mental health services? Bingo. Our laws don't stop enough crazy people.
*Society being hard on those who have disabilities? Where are their families?
*Society tearing men down for mental health issues? Women, too.
*Society over working everyone? 'Everyone' should have stayed in school, stayed out of trouble, earned a degree, and graduated instead of crying "It's not fair!" whenever they got a failing grade.
*Lots of people barely making ends meat? Maybe if they had stayed in school, stayed out of trouble, earned a degree, and graduated instead of crying "It's not fair!"
*People too stressed with no time to unwind. Take time off.
*People not getting the help they need. People not getting the privileges they want.
*People being hateful? Take away the special privileges enjoyed by religious institutions, and that will diminish the influence their hate-filled doctrines.
*Add in the fact that the U.S. population owns almost 50% of all the guns in the world? Only 50%? Stupid peaceniks.

There are enough people in the U.S. who have such a negative view of the disabled, that would act on it in some fashion.
This isn't the first time an agency doing social services in this country has been attacked in the last 30 years, let alone one that aids the disabled.

As long as the disabled are viewed as a blight on society and using government money, there will be a significant amount of people opposed to their existence.

Justice? How can you call that justice? You mean forcing all the country to pay so they can get 3 meals a day, free healthcare, and a better life quality (Edit: I mean criminals, not the disabled community)than every motherfucking low-income citizens who work hard all the time yet get nothing?

Religious ideology imposing a "Them versus Us" mindset on the people of the world.

Unchecked insanity. Round them up, medicate them, and lock them away from the rest of us.

Lack of personal initiative coupled with an inflated sense of entitlement.

Weak-willed politicians that permit extremism, both liberal and conservative, to take control of our Congress, Courts, and and Executive branches of government.

Looking at the picture of the dead shooter laying on the ground, it appears to be a woman

No, by "Justice", I mean due process, not a lynch-mob mentality.

In other words, American justice, not the primitive, third-world mantra of making the punishment fit the crime.

Of course, if they receive the death penalty after trial-by-jury, then I won't stand in anyone's way ...

They're saying on the radio that the people at the party were government officials.

Could you post a link to that part of the story?

On the other hand, there is evidence that some of the victims were
attending a staff Christmas party or something like that.

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/12/02/authorities-responding-to-reports-of-mass-shooting-in-san-bernardino-california-nbc-los-angeles.html

Ah. Apparently, the centre's own web site mentions that it provides
sex education--among other services--to persons with developmental
disabilities in much the same way that occupational therapists in Canada
could be expected to do so.

And yet, the hard right in American politics would say that being
a government official makes you fair game for any genuine patriot;
the idea would be to kill them first before they take away what
freedoms remain to you....