Horrific fire in council tower block, west London, UK

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It sounds just as awful as I expected it to.

Noone has a couch or microwave dinner? Spare change?

I hope at least most of the money raised actually goes to the victims of the fire.

^^ Great, that's fine by me. Just keep being ignorant to everything you've ever written.

But, noone organizes the charity drive, personally.

You just wanted to spout hot air for some reason.

How can I be "ignorant of what I wrote?" That doesn't make sense.

I'm being completely literal. It's not rhetoric. If you believe that deserving people are in some kind of emergency, then, you should be doing something about it. You slacktivists have no sense of duty.

Yes, and you've just joined this thread I suppose.
My threads been moved, possibly because of someone else directing rebound remarks at me for no reason other than to do what you're saying. Favouritsm wins the day here again.I don't spout hot air for no reason, and I often let people know what my remarks mean so they don't keep making the same stupid errors.

Again, your phrasing isn't suitable for this thread whereby 79 people in my country have died. Others seek to blame one person, I blame the whole system. So others shouldn't keep posting insulting things about me.

What is wrong with my phrasing?

I really don't get it. Maybe I'm stupid, I don't know.

We had 3,000 people die in my city during 9/11. I would never get upset with somebody if they said we should try to arrive at causation. Because we HAVE to arrive at causation, in order to try to prevent this sort of thing from happening in the future. I don't see what I said as besmirching the victims or something.

I joined the thread pretty early, actually.

Why can't we play nice?

Something has been done, as quoted in my Emergency Fund thread, I'm not the person who started this thread, so aim your comments to whoever ensued it.
You sound very worried, but the matter is still being drafted out for Grenfell families and is well under way now, believe me.

I also said, in reference to the benefit concert, "I hope most of the money goes to the victims of the fire." I said this because, sometimes, when people do charity events, much of the money raised doesn't go to whoever needs the charity.

I guess you think I'm an outsider because I don't live in London.

However.....my wife's son happens to live in London, in Bromley....so it is sort of a "local" issue with me, too.

I guess you feel I'm an "outsider," so you feel I have to "butt out."

You could have put it a little nicer, though.

But, really, it's the OP's call. If she wants me to butt out, I'll butt out.

But all this crap about "ignorance" or whatever, makes no sense.

I really shouldn't be harping on this; this makes no sense.

But I just don't like being called "ignorant" for no reason. I don't think you'd like it, either.

Kraftie, I agree more with what you say than Empathy or friedmacguffins (no offense, just that I disagree). I don't see what you're posting as irrelevant. I think May should step down and I think the British should stop being so docile. Nobody wants to take action, the people of this country like complaining about it, watching politicians on TV complaining about it, but nobody takes action. Their excuse being, "I don't want to be as bad as they are".

So lots of people die as a result of this government (benefit cuts, cuts to the NHS, and cuts to health and safety) but nobody wants to be as "bad as they are" so everyone puts up with their fellow men being killed off. I think those complaining (and just spreading news articles on Facebook) and not wanting to take action ARE as bad as they are. The British are allowing all of it to happen.

I hope those people get nice places with backyards (what you call "gardens") and lawns and all that.

This sort of thing has happened before. People have been rendered homeless, and were given places which were of higher quality than previous places.

I'm curious about how Thatcher would have reacted to the fire.

Smudge, are you saying that Mrs May started this whole mess? even the fire? because in reality it was a certain Mr David Cameron that started the referendum campaign ball going. If you disagree with my thoughts on this thread could you direct it to me please, instead of someone else who's trying to gaslight an argument?
The issue I took with BirdofFlight had nothing whatsoever to do with the content that was being put or for what some people seem to think was the lack of true empathy, for residents who have lost their lives.
I just disliked the endless causations of 'what started it' and implying a joke factor on me because I am a Brexiteer and have voted to come out of the Euorpean Union.
I feel that once this has been achieved, everyone's status will be protected and not contested against by some feeling of neglect that has always been present in archival type society. Some people think we're behind with the time, but in truth, we're just getting started.
I don't like people brandishing hate names on others, the fact I'm being singled out means there is some useful piece of knowledge somewhere, that is going to be used and implemented.
No one likes the threat of austerity but a completetly free thinking radicalised government would have no individual time or mercy for the few, and they would be living in cardboard house by now, not the ones that the emergency fund has supplied. If times weren't bad enough, tragedy strikes home again.

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/gr ... spartandhp

The full extent of failings behind the Grenfell Tower inferno were laid bare today as police revealed that a fire started by a faulty HotPoint fridge freezer ignited cladding and insulation that has failed all safety tests.
Scotland Yard today issued a dramatic alert over materials used on the tower today after samples caught light easily during new independent tests.
So far, the Government has received samples from 11 high rise buildings in eight local authority areas in the UK where the cladding has failed safety tests, including a number in London.
Hammersmith and Fulham said it was working on plans to put in sprinklers in 15 blocks of 12 storeys or more.

And, I wasn't calling anyone, here, an outsider.

I think you should be an insider. Support your own causes. Make your own cause. Lead by example.