16yo Thunberg: She’s the MVP Aspie of the world! IMO

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The "way many do" their bit is clearly insufficient. Our world is built for profitable waste, so we have to do a lot of custom work to live on a share of sustainable size. I have seen the world population triple, so all the goals of my grandfathers have to be re-evaluated and generally abandoned as too environmentally expensive now.

I don't know of anyone who is able to live sustainably without withdrawing from society. We don't have a full set of tools for advanced work that don't involve trade-offs - limiting oneself to currently available "Green" options is crippling - we all have to use offsets and tax ourselves for remediaton to build more green stuff. Even the effort we put into separating our garbage is often wasted, as the recycling is done so badly.

Somehow, we have to build a whole new technology and economy that includes taking pollution back out of the air. Technically, it can be done, but the bankers are not on board yet. We can make synthetic liquid fuel and sequester some carbon on the side using a windmill to process air for about what many pay for gasoline now, but there is still tremendous momentum in the oil business. Even our wars are mostly about market share in a market that should be abolished.

Get ready for the next new response from NTs: "I thought all autistics loved the environment as their cause."...

I think caring for the environment in a sensible way is good.

I do have a bit of concern if autism is wrongly viewed by the public as associated with ANY specific cause, belief, creed, etc except to further the acceptance of autistics. I don't want any single person to represent me. I know she's not saying she represents autistics; I'm just thinking about how the mind of the public associates one thing with another, often wrongly.

If the public would now go to ASAN's website, they could now wrongly infer that all autistics are social justice and leftist since ASAN has veered obviously in that direction.

Thunberg is very young. Her intentions seem good. I try not to put any person on a pedestal though. All people are fallible.

The NPR bit on this evening's news did not mention her autism.

Greta isn't saying anything about global warming that scientists haven't said for decades. However, our politicians have responded to the issue by acting like overgrown children. So all honor to her for being the literal child who comes up to ask "where are the adults?"

She just landed in NYC and is having a presser

The NPR coverage of her arrival in NY said nothing about her autism.

She should be in school.

Give us one reason to listen to people with no life experience and no understanding of how society functions.

She is quoting the vast majority of scientists with both of those, and adding her perspective of having to face these problems for longer than they.

But the scientists realise they are dealing with people and you cannot tell them what to do or they will resist.

I have two frat brothers and one other college buddy who are climate scientists, along with one neighbor, so she literally has nothing to say that I haven't already heard from them except for one thing: she constantly asks "where are the adults?" And she's right to ask that.

It's ridiculous that we're letting world affairs be swayed by a 16 year old kid who's cutting class. But it's more ridiculous that we have senators and congressmen constantly stepping to the podium to posture like immature 12 year olds instead of tackling the problem like adults. Miss. Thunberg should quote Yogi Berra and thank them for making her activism necessary.

I don't know what you are getting at there. I have watched the climate debates for decades, and almost every time, the researchers have made a prediction, and the conference sponsors, etc. have persuaded them to publish a less-alarming estimate "to avoid risk of excess worry." Well, now all that worry has come home to roost, along with corfirmation of the original estimates.
I have seen the disappearance of one glacier with my own eyes. There is a fine old stone hotel with a great view of Lake Louise, where it used to end, but the ice is just a speck far away on a gravel slope now. As a Canadian, I have no trouble relating temperature to freezing and thawing events.
There is more agreement on climate change than almost anything else in science, despite the deniers being much in demand for TV and choice jobs. Quite a few scientists have lost jobs rather than change their story.

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I'm not in disagreement with what she is saying, just in the way she is going about it.

Or in the way her parents and PR company are making her go about it.

What should she do instead?

I'm not the boss of her.

She can do what she likes.

I just don't have to obey or listen.

I've never heard of her.