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09 Jun 2019, 10:29 am

If born that way is true, also explain how Hans which have a more complex social construct tend to have way more 'gays' than any other creature on this planet? In fact, there are no gay animals. Sounds like the complex social construct and lives of humans play more of a role on sexual orientation than simply being born with a genetic tendency to be gay.


Sure, make thing up to support your belief system. Acting as if you know how every person whom has switched sexual orientation thinks. What a leap into a false belief.



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09 Jun 2019, 10:30 am

TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
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What are your thoughts on women breastfeeding in public?


Personally I have no problem with it. It's a way to feed nursing babies and nothing more.

I really don't even that much of a problem to mardi gras, but I felt it was kind of odd that parents brought their kids to it with all the drunks and such.

I think that like gay pride (which I've never been to) that should be an event for adults.

But maybe I'm just too uptight and prudish? :|


Parents don’t always have common sense when it comes to where they choose to take their kids. I certainly wouldn’t take my child to a place where there was going to be a lot of drunk people!

I also wouldn’t take my kid to see a horror movie but lots of parents do it.

It often just comes down to selfishness on the parent’s part.


I think that's true. My mom allowed me to watch scary movies and play violent video games since I was a little kid btw lol :lol:


I couldn’t have handled that!

Just the previews to horror movies were too scary for me. LOL



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09 Jun 2019, 10:32 am

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If born that way is true, also explain how Hans which have a more complex social construct tend to have way more 'gays' than any other creature on this planet? In fact, there are no gay animals. Sounds like the complex social construct and lives of humans play more of a role on sexual orientation than simply being born with a genetic tendency to be gay.


Sure, make thing up to support your belief system. Acting as if you know how every person whom has switched sexual orientation thinks. What a leap into a false belief.



There are no gay animals? Are you FREAKIN KIDDING ME WITH THIS? :lol:

Many species of animals can engage in homosexual sex. Hamsters are especially notorious for it. So can dogs, cats, and many other mammals.

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09 Jun 2019, 10:34 am

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of ... l_behavior

Get Edumucated! :wink:


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09 Jun 2019, 10:34 am

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Let me enlighten you people. Born that way happens to be a debateable matter. Are you aware that sexual orientation can change throughout a person's life? So if you are born gay, can you also be born gay yet born to eventually change your sexual preference to straight? Guess either of you don't really know what you are talking about, born that way yet it is a fact that sexual preferences can change throughout a person's life.


The genetics of homosexuality is a complex and understudied thing . As for people changing their preference- latent bisexuality that kicks into gear due to various factors ?

The question then being is bisexuality a choice? How much is it genetic?



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09 Jun 2019, 10:36 am

So how's about pointing out the 'gay gene' and why it seems to only express itself within humans.

Yes but by definition they tend to be bi sexual, or confused. They are trying to mate, not enjoying gay sex. There is a kind of chimp which males master bate males and females clap their privates together. It is a means of social enteraction, the males and females still have sex to reproduce. Humans are the most sexualized and complex thinking creatures, don't tell me you think a hamster has the ability to think like a human and expand upon sexual fantasy.



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09 Jun 2019, 10:41 am

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So how's about pointing out the 'gay gene' and why it seems to only express itself within humans.

Yes but by definition they tend to be bi sexual, or confused. They are trying to mate, not enjoying gay sex. There is a kind of chimp which males master bate males and females clap their privates together. It is a means of social enteraction, the males and females still have sex to reproduce. Humans are the most sexualized and complex thinking creatures, don't tell me you think a hamster has the ability to think like a human and expand upon sexual fantasy.


What proof do you have that animals don't take pleasure in sex as much as humans do?


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09 Jun 2019, 10:45 am

Actually it's more of a hormonal thing among humans alot with complex social construct, aka there is no gay gene. It's way more complex than born gay or born bisexual. Take trans for example, most people with gender disphoria/disorder have low hormone production for their biological sex, most people with this hormonal issues tend to grow up to be homosexual, though it isn't 100% because other factors, depression, social construct, or very negative events also play a role in sexual orientation. Just because you have a hormonal issues does not mean you will be gay, just as just because you don't have a hormonal issue dosen't mean you will be straight, which clues in the fact that other factors play a role, none of which are a gay gene. You can have genes which affect hormones, that still doesn't dictate sexual orientation. Social influence plays a huge role as does events in one's life.



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09 Jun 2019, 10:48 am

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Are all men who have the “gay” variants of these genes gay?
No, says Sanders, because many other factors play a role, including the environment. “There are probably multiple genes involved, each with a fairly low effect,” he says. “There will be men who have the form of gene that increases the chance of being gay, but they won’t be gay.”


https://www.newscientist.com/article/21 ... ientation/



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09 Jun 2019, 10:49 am

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So how's about pointing out the 'gay gene' and why it seems to only express itself within humans.

Yes but by definition they tend to be bi sexual, or confused. They are trying to mate, not enjoying gay sex. There is a kind of chimp which males master bate males and females clap their privates together. It is a means of social enteraction, the males and females still have sex to reproduce. Humans are the most sexualized and complex thinking creatures, don't tell me you think a hamster has the ability to think like a human and expand upon sexual fantasy.


What proof do you have that animals don't take pleasure in sex as much as humans do?


Complex thought, animals do not have the brain capacity to think like humans. I didn't say they don't enjoy it, they are acting on the instinct to produce young. A dog can hump the side of a cat, obviously it is confused about what it is doing and merely acting on instinct rather than complex thought leading to the sexual fantasy of f*****g a cats side.



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09 Jun 2019, 10:51 am

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Are all men who have the “gay” variants of these genes gay?
No, says Sanders, because many other factors play a role, including the environment. “There are probably multiple genes involved, each with a fairly low effect,” he says. “There will be men who have the form of gene that increases the chance of being gay, but they won’t be gay.”


https://www.newscientist.com/article/21 ... ientation/



Exactly, though they misrepresent it, it's not gay genes, simply genes that one may possess that can aid ones sexual attraction, social influences still play a huge role. As you could have all of the genes they say contributes and still be straight.



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09 Jun 2019, 10:57 am

This is not a subject that is very well understood yet. There’s a lot that we still don’t know about the brain.

As humans, we have the capacity to treat others with civility and common human decency, though. There’s a lot to be said for that.



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09 Jun 2019, 11:00 am

When I say there is no gay gene I am saying there is no gene that if within and activated means you will be gay. As with every thing there are many contributing factors. One could easily see that social construct does play a huge role as well as the ability of complex thought and the ability to fantasize.



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09 Jun 2019, 11:01 am

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This is not a subject that is very well understood yet. There’s a lot that we still don’t know about the brain.

As humans, we have the capacity to treat others with civility and common human decency, though. There’s a lot to be said for that.


Sometimes... except for when we are killing and raping each other during wars, commiting genocide, and burning heretics at the stake. >_>


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09 Jun 2019, 11:06 am

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Exactly, though they misrepresent it, it's not gay genes, simply genes that one may possess that can aid ones sexual attraction, social influences still play a huge role. As you could have all of the genes they say contributes and still be straight.



From your response I get the impression you'd also deny the genetic component to something like schizophrenia on the basis that it's not 100% genetic .

Be it being gay or having schizophrenia the fact that it may be partly environmental doesn't negate a genetic component .



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09 Jun 2019, 11:10 am

We also have the ability to over react and dramatize everything and place theories about ones arguments to act as if they are the evil unaccepting homophobic ones for pointing out that children attending hyper sexualized events are some how homophobic for having and issue with something that they themselves agree is wrong. Complex creatures we are. I'm nor homophobic, one can only say so many times they have no problem with gay people before they give up and accept that people often only hear what they want to hear and run to the defence of people the op wasn't attacking with nonsense statements like, well he doesn't have a problem if it's a straight event or he attacks gays because he is gay or homophobic or, obviously he is attacking gays because the event is a gay parade....which I translate that they feel it's wrong to say anything about kids being in sexualized events if it's a gay parade. I expected it to go though way though, that's typically how it goes. If it were a straight event everyone would just be in agreement, since it's a gay event everyone must get defensive and rush in to protect gay people and call the op homophobic....funny how that works.