El Paso mall shooting: At least 15 dead, 1 in custody

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For me it's the "old El Paso" wraps....Mexican food is big here in Australia

Interesting read
Pittsburgh Tree of Life Synagogue shooter Robert Bowers wrote online that he wanted to stop those working to “bring invaders in that kill our people”.
Christchurch terrorist Brenton Tarrant decried immigration as an “assault on the European people” … “This is ethnic replacement. This is cultural replacement. This is racial replacement. This is WHITE GENOCIDE.”
And, during the 2017 Charlottesville white supremacist marches, they chanted: “You will not replace us.”

Trump's little throw-away link about the Charlottesville protestors being "fine people" has had serious repercussions down the line.

There is no link to Trump. And you know Trump was saying they're probably not all bad, and if we're being honest here, he's probably right. Outside of that one guy, they pretty much came, protested peacefully and lawfully, and left.

If you're quoting out of the manifesto, you show take the whole thing into consideration which tells you exactly why he did it and Trump is not the reason.

Marty Robbins sang the hit version of “El Paso.”

Jim Reeves might have found the lyrics too heavy.

It sounds like a Jim Reeves song on the surface....but the lyrics were actually fairly heavy for its time, 1959.

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Food for thought:

There seems to be an extreme need to link Trump to nazism and portray him as causing an enormous surge in nazism to be seen as an extreme threat to America. With him being a Putin operative as a companion threat. Of course Russia has to be portrayed as a major threat to the US as well.

Owing to its Soviet past, and Putin’s role in the KGB, I would feel skepticism towards Russian intentions towards the United States.

Putin has been in power for 20 years. I have watched James Bond and Austin Powers movies. Blofeld and Dr. Evil carry out their insidious plots much faster than that.

I said be wary.....not be scared.....

Yeah but the idea is to be afraid. Very afraid.

The idea is to have a healthy skepticism---not be "very afraid".....

Most Russian people I met are nice people. And there have been many technological advances in Russia----though the economy sucks. They really did a nice renovation job on Moscow. I am of Russian descent myself.

Even so, I am glad I'm not under the thumb of Putin and the Russian bureaucracy.

Well like I said satirically above. Putin has been in power for 20 years.

Usually historically speaking the truely evil learders established themselves as such way before that much time has passed.

I think Putin has been as dangerous as he will ever get for some time now.

He is no angel, but I do not think he has been waiting 20 years to finally pull some insidious rabbit out of his hat.

Uh oh, there I go defending him.

Putin is focused on his own country and his immediate neighbors (which he seeks to acquire)----and his self-aggrandizement within the context of his own country. He has no time to be really concerned with the United States, except in a sort of passive-aggressive sense.

Nevertheless, the United States has to have a healthy skepticism of Putin (and of Russia as a political entity) because of the Soviet past, and Putin's past. I would have probably felt a little less skepticism had Gorbachev remained in power.

Of course, he is pissed that sanctions have been imposed upon his country by the United States.

But Soviet Union has been gone for nearly 30 years. Did it take 30 years or more for the US to get over Germany and Japan? As far as taking over countries can you imagine if Hitler waited 20 years or more to start taking over countries? WWII would have taken place in 60's. I do not think Putin is a pussycat, but I think it is more likely that he is winding down after all this time and now that he is senior citizen age rather than revving up.

I'm not saying that one should be in quaking fear of Putin, or of Russia.

But one should have a healthy skepticism.

Trust me: even France has a healthy skepticism of the United States. And they have been a "staunch ally" since at least World War I.

I am seeing a lot more than healthy skepticism though. I am seeing outright 50's paranoia. And I think that is a result of making Russia out to be a huge threat to the US in order to make Trump a part of that huge threat. I do not like all the unnecessary and obvious tactics. Same thing with trying so hard to tie Trump in with Patrick Wood Crusius and probably Connor Stephen Betts as well.