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25 Dec 2019, 5:01 am

"he who should not be named" even though his name is continually dropped.



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25 Dec 2019, 5:04 am

Anyone who hasn't heard John Powell say negative things about Bush and Trump hasn't been paying attention. As usual.



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25 Dec 2019, 5:09 am

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Anyone who hasn't heard John Powell say negative things about Bush and Trump hasn't been paying attention. As usual.


Touche. I'm pretty sure I have slated Trump for and Bush in THIS THREAD.

And looking back on the previous page.... :lol: I called Bush one of the biggest war criminals in history.... poor wittle Democrats :heart:


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25 Dec 2019, 5:12 am

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When nutjobs think mainstream news is fake when it's anti-Trump
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/why ... ISX3Jee7Rs


A certain Limey who claims to hail from Palestine has made the charge of fake news regarding dying in internment camps.


No I did f**king not. Show me where I said it was fake news???! ! ! I said in another post that children had died.


You didn't deny that children died in those camps, but that their deaths were the fault of their parents, and not of Trump and his Nazi, Stephen Miller.


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25 Dec 2019, 5:13 am

EzraS wrote:
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This is not a consolation—but he did lose the popular vote.

He can very easily lose the 2020 election if a few states go the other way. Especially Florida, which he won by less than a percentage point in 2016.


I think what's more of a concern than whether Trump won the popular vote (or not) is the millions of erstwhile normal average intelligent Americans who thought it was a good idea to vote for a leader who represents the worst type of values in society. This is the mammoth in the room no American wants to talk about.


What about all the millions of Americans who voted for a war mongering corporate Dem who embodied the corruption that has infected our political system? That doesn't sound like a good idea either.

I voted for neither of them.


In the world of liberals words are worse than mass murdering brown children.


Brown children aren't mass murderers. Therefore liberals are pretty cool. :P


You are joking about the mass murder of children? You are getting even more trollish than your partner.


No, I'm making fun of Powell.


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25 Dec 2019, 6:11 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
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Kraichgauer wrote:
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When nutjobs think mainstream news is fake when it's anti-Trump
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/why ... ISX3Jee7Rs


A certain Limey who claims to hail from Palestine has made the charge of fake news regarding dying in internment camps.


No I did f**king not. Show me where I said it was fake news???! ! ! I said in another post that children had died.


You didn't deny that children died in those camps, but that their deaths were the fault of their parents, and not of Trump and his Nazi, Stephen Miller.


I said it numerous things. The main thing being US foreign policy, destroying the countries which made people want to leave. Until you acknowledge that you have no right to cry crocodile tears.


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25 Dec 2019, 6:28 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
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Kraichgauer wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
When nutjobs think mainstream news is fake when it's anti-Trump
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/why ... ISX3Jee7Rs


A certain Limey who claims to hail from Palestine has made the charge of fake news regarding dying in internment camps.


No I did f**king not. Show me where I said it was fake news???! ! ! I said in another post that children had died.


You didn't deny that children died in those camps, but that their deaths were the fault of their parents, and not of Trump and his Nazi, Stephen Miller.


He mentioned US foreign policy being to blame. I don't see how you could have missed that. Like your sidekick you don't seem to pay attention.



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25 Dec 2019, 6:34 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
This is not a consolation—but he did lose the popular vote.

He can very easily lose the 2020 election if a few states go the other way. Especially Florida, which he won by less than a percentage point in 2016.


I think what's more of a concern than whether Trump won the popular vote (or not) is the millions of erstwhile normal average intelligent Americans who thought it was a good idea to vote for a leader who represents the worst type of values in society. This is the mammoth in the room no American wants to talk about.


What about all the millions of Americans who voted for a war mongering corporate Dem who embodied the corruption that has infected our political system? That doesn't sound like a good idea either.

I voted for neither of them.


In the world of liberals words are worse than mass murdering brown children.


Brown children aren't mass murderers. Therefore liberals are pretty cool. :P


You are joking about the mass murder of children? You are getting even more trollish than your partner.


No, I'm making fun of Powell.


While showing no regard towards the mass murder of children.



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25 Dec 2019, 8:12 am

Both Dem and Republican presidents seem to have either been directly responsible for atrocious foreign policies or turned a blind eye to events. Let's agree that neither side has clean hands.

These camps are still effectively concentration camps - an atrocity which began in the late 19th century when the British built such camps to house Boer women and children during the Anglo-Boer wars. Thousands died due to disease and unsanitary conditions. These atrocities came under scrutiny thanks to the efforts of reformer Emily Hobhouse.

Today's camps run by the Americans and others are no different.

The only difference between their camps and those of the Nazis is that the Nazis set out to kill the inmates through gassing and other methods, whereas the "Western" nations have them killed off through neglect or "looking the other way". it somehow becomes acceptable as "collateral damage".

Now I request that Kraichgauer and JP stop sniping at each other. Make a Christmas truce. I'm giving you a chance to be respectful so the thread can stay unlocked.


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25 Dec 2019, 8:45 am

If this Trump thread is locked, there will only be a dozen left on the first page :mrgreen:



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25 Dec 2019, 6:33 pm

envirozentinel wrote:
Both Dem and Republican presidents seem to have either been directly responsible for atrocious foreign policies or turned a blind eye to events. Let's agree that neither side has clean hands.

These camps are still effectively concentration camps - an atrocity which began in the late 19th century when the British built such camps to house Boer women and children during the Anglo-Boer wars. Thousands died due to disease and unsanitary conditions. These atrocities came under scrutiny thanks to the efforts of reformer Emily Hobhouse.

Today's camps run by the Americans and others are no different.

The only difference between their camps and those of the Nazis is that the Nazis set out to kill the inmates through gassing and other methods, whereas the "Western" nations have them killed off through neglect or "looking the other way". it somehow becomes acceptable as "collateral damage".

Now I request that Kraichgauer and JP stop sniping at each other. Make a Christmas truce. I'm giving you a chance to be respectful so the thread can stay unlocked.


I will. I apologize to you, the denizens of WP, and yes, to JohnPowel.
I will say this, though. It's not crocodile tears that I'm shedding for interned children, nor am I making light of their predicament. As well, while American foreign policy doubtlessly had done it's harm to Latin America, not all of it can be attributed to the US. Racial prejudice and genocide against indigenous inhabitants of Mexico, and Central and South America long predates American involvement, as does ultra violent drug cartels, both of which are causing waves of immigrants to flee to the US.


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25 Dec 2019, 6:36 pm

it's CHRISTMAS, for CHRIST'S SAKE. why can't y'all put it aside for today?



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25 Dec 2019, 7:05 pm

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it's CHRISTMAS, for CHRIST'S SAKE. why can't y'all put it aside for today?


Trying to, brother Blabby. 8)


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25 Dec 2019, 7:09 pm

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25 Dec 2019, 7:12 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
envirozentinel wrote:
Both Dem and Republican presidents seem to have either been directly responsible for atrocious foreign policies or turned a blind eye to events. Let's agree that neither side has clean hands.

These camps are still effectively concentration camps - an atrocity which began in the late 19th century when the British built such camps to house Boer women and children during the Anglo-Boer wars. Thousands died due to disease and unsanitary conditions. These atrocities came under scrutiny thanks to the efforts of reformer Emily Hobhouse.

Today's camps run by the Americans and others are no different.

The only difference between their camps and those of the Nazis is that the Nazis set out to kill the inmates through gassing and other methods, whereas the "Western" nations have them killed off through neglect or "looking the other way". it somehow becomes acceptable as "collateral damage".

Now I request that Kraichgauer and JP stop sniping at each other. Make a Christmas truce. I'm giving you a chance to be respectful so the thread can stay unlocked.


I will. I apologize to you, the denizens of WP, and yes, to JohnPowel.
I will say this, though. It's not crocodile tears that I'm shedding for interned children, nor am I making light of their predicament. As well, while American foreign policy doubtlessly had done it's harm to Latin America, not all of it can be attributed to the US. Racial prejudice and genocide against indigenous inhabitants of Mexico, and Central and South America long predates American involvement, as does ultra violent drug cartels, both of which are causing waves of immigrants to flee to the US.


I appreciate that, thanks and have a good Christmas. But you are missing that the US supports those drug cartels. The US has recently supported coups and attempted coups in Bolivia and Venezuela, trying to remove indigenous leaders and installing a white puppet. The President changes but the policy barely does. You should try to free yourself from party loyalties as you have shown you are more aware than you make out to be. If you want to remove Trump then support doing it via democracy.


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JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
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Both Dem and Republican presidents seem to have either been directly responsible for atrocious foreign policies or turned a blind eye to events. Let's agree that neither side has clean hands.

These camps are still effectively concentration camps - an atrocity which began in the late 19th century when the British built such camps to house Boer women and children during the Anglo-Boer wars. Thousands died due to disease and unsanitary conditions. These atrocities came under scrutiny thanks to the efforts of reformer Emily Hobhouse.

Today's camps run by the Americans and others are no different.

The only difference between their camps and those of the Nazis is that the Nazis set out to kill the inmates through gassing and other methods, whereas the "Western" nations have them killed off through neglect or "looking the other way". it somehow becomes acceptable as "collateral damage".

Now I request that Kraichgauer and JP stop sniping at each other. Make a Christmas truce. I'm giving you a chance to be respectful so the thread can stay unlocked.


I will. I apologize to you, the denizens of WP, and yes, to JohnPowel.
I will say this, though. It's not crocodile tears that I'm shedding for interned children, nor am I making light of their predicament. As well, while American foreign policy doubtlessly had done it's harm to Latin America, not all of it can be attributed to the US. Racial prejudice and genocide against indigenous inhabitants of Mexico, and Central and South America long predates American involvement, as does ultra violent drug cartels, both of which are causing waves of immigrants to flee to the US.


I appreciate that, thanks and have a good Christmas. But you are missing that the US supports those drug cartels. The US has recently supported coups and attempted coups in Bolivia and Venezuela, trying to remove indigenous leaders and installing a white puppet. The President changes but the policy barely does. You should try to free yourself from party loyalties as you have shown you are more aware than you make out to be. If you want to remove Trump then support doing it via democracy.


And a merry Christmas to you!
I'm not talking about leaders who might be of indigenous descent, but of poor tribes people and villagers who have been mercilessly murdered by right wing militias on the pretext that they're rebels. This is clearly racist hate, and preceded American interference by centuries.
What evidence is there that the US has supported drug cartels since Iran/Contra? These days, the DEA has been making arrests and has even carries out assassinations (Pablo Escabar comes to mind).
I'm all for democracy in Latin America, and I am more than willing to admit that American intelligence agencies with or without official US government consent has caused a lot of the evil in that region.


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