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28 Jan 2020, 10:24 pm

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So this has now become a sensationalism thread.


No not really, this is a news thread and I posted news stories related to Kobe Bryant's tragic death and how some people lack any empathy for his family


So you want this thread to be about trash talk and accusations.



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28 Jan 2020, 10:32 pm

I wish I could change the subject line to include all the passengers.

I wrote it before knowing the scope of loss. :(


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28 Jan 2020, 11:33 pm

besides the incalculable loss of human life, also a pity that such a glorious bird should have had to prang so badly and so preventably. why did they have to go up in those conditions? was there no other way to get to the training facility? what was the GD hurry?



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29 Jan 2020, 12:39 am

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was there no other way to get to the training facility? what was the GD hurry?


The pilot was likely "winging it"



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29 Jan 2020, 12:44 am

cyberdad wrote:
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was there no other way to get to the training facility? what was the GD hurry?


The pilot was likely "winging it"

i wonder how sensitive gas turbine engines are to saturated [with water] air being sucked into them? in any case, there was no real excuse for it, according to pilots i have overheard discussing such.



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29 Jan 2020, 1:00 am

Expert opinion suggests the pilot was flying 'on advice" from ground radar without visual confirmation through the fog or having access to on-board instrumentation for navigation through the fog.
https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather- ... ath/669612

It was ultimately the pilots call - In retrospect the pilot should have turned back



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29 Jan 2020, 1:05 am

on the surface, he was a journeyman pilot with adequate skills and judgment, until he wasn't. such is life. and death.



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29 Jan 2020, 3:39 am

and yet another woman sacked for saying something about Kobe Bryant
https://www.foxsports.com.au/basketball ... a59f425e72
They sure are coming out of the woodwork



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29 Jan 2020, 9:26 am

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and yet another woman sacked for saying something about Kobe Bryant ... They sure are coming out of the woodwork
Oh, sure ... now that he's dead ...

:roll:


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29 Jan 2020, 9:43 am

Latest news:

• The helicopter carrying Kobe Bryant didn't have a recommended warning system to alert the pilot he was too close to the ground, but it is not clear it would have helped him avert the crash.

• The FAA is looking to document whether there was a GPS-based terrain avoidance system on board the helicopter, but it doesn't look to be part of the scenario.

• The aircraft was intact when it hit the ground, but the impact spread debris over more than 500 feet (150 meters).

• Remains of the final victims were recovered Tuesday.

• So far, only the remains of Bryant, Zobayan and two other passengers have been identified using fingerprints.

• While a preliminary report may be released in a few weeks, an official determination of what caused the crash will take months, and could take up to a year.

• It is too soon to say whether the pilot had control of the helicopter during the steep, high-speed descent, although it wouldn't be a normal landing speed.

Comments/Speculation: Zobayan (the pilot) had flown the day before the crash on a route with the same departure and destination - Orange County to Ventura County. His decision to proceed in deteriorating visibility, though, has experts and fellow pilots wondering if he flew beyond the boundaries of good judgment and whether pressure to get his superstar client where he wanted to go played a role in the crash.


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30 Jan 2020, 12:36 am

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His decision to proceed in deteriorating visibility, though, has experts and fellow pilots wondering if he flew beyond the boundaries of good judgment and whether pressure to get his superstar client where he wanted to go played a role in the crash.[/color]


I think it was both....his ego/experience was on the line and he didn't want to look incapable in front of Kobe



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30 Jan 2020, 12:53 am

i wonder if a female pilot would have behaved similarly then.



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30 Jan 2020, 12:57 am

The pilot was racist.


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30 Jan 2020, 1:32 am

auntblabby wrote:
i wonder if a female pilot would have behaved similarly then.


Perhaps might have exercised more caution but we don't know if Kobe was anxious to get his daughter to the basketball game so unless there's a black box in the Sikorsky we'll never know.



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30 Jan 2020, 2:52 am

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The pilot was racist.


Were you directing that at someone? I cannot tell because I am not a forensic pathologist.



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30 Jan 2020, 3:19 am

EzraS wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
The pilot was racist.


Were you directing that at someone? I cannot tell because I am not a forensic pathologist.


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