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19 Nov 2020, 1:00 pm

Carl von Clausewitz - Prussian general wrote:
War is the continuation of politics by other means.
Chairman Mao Zedong wrote:
Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.



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19 Nov 2020, 3:17 pm

Nobody cares about Armenia or that other cespool.



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19 Nov 2020, 3:20 pm

StayFrosty wrote:
Nobody cares about Armenia or that other cespool.


I am sure the Kardashians, Cher and Andre Agassi would disagree with you.



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19 Nov 2020, 3:22 pm

cyberdad wrote:
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Nobody cares about Armenia or that other cespool.


I am sure the Kardashians, Cher and Andre Agassi would disagree with you.
Still cesspools.



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19 Nov 2020, 8:10 pm

cyberdad wrote:
StayFrosty wrote:
Nobody cares about Armenia or that other cespool.


I am sure the Kardashians, Cher and Andre Agassi would disagree with you.

System of a Down would too:

Los Angeles has a sizable Armenian-American community after all.
Turkey will one day need to face the sins of its past. Until then, how will the Armenian people know justice?


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19 Nov 2020, 8:18 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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Russia's geopolitical priorities apparently outweigh their Orthodox Christians nationalism. Can't risk losing access through the Dardanelles I guess...
When will the Armenian people see justice? How many more centuries will it be? How much more blood will be spilled and land will be stolen?


Armenian's Orthodoxy is Oriental Orthodoxy, which is a totally different ball game than the Russian Orthodoxy (Eastern Orthodox Christianity). They don't even agree on the same nature of Jesus.

Btw, Armenia is the first Christian country in the world.


Don't mean to derail the thread, but what is their concept of Christ's nature?


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19 Nov 2020, 9:33 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
roronoa79 wrote:
Russia's geopolitical priorities apparently outweigh their Orthodox Christians nationalism. Can't risk losing access through the Dardanelles I guess...
When will the Armenian people see justice? How many more centuries will it be? How much more blood will be spilled and land will be stolen?


Armenian's Orthodoxy is Oriental Orthodoxy, which is a totally different ball game than the Russian Orthodoxy (Eastern Orthodox Christianity). They don't even agree on the same nature of Jesus.

Btw, Armenia is the first Christian country in the world.


Don't mean to derail the thread, but what is their concept of Christ's nature?

Most denominations of Christianity most familiar to us (catholic, eastern orthodox, (most?) Protestant) are dyophysite. That is, they believe that Christ had two distinct natures: one divine, and one mortal. Most Armenians follow Oriental Orthodox Christianity, which is miaphysite. Miaphysite believe that Christ had one nature which was both divine and mortal.


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19 Nov 2020, 10:59 pm

roronoa79 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
roronoa79 wrote:
Russia's geopolitical priorities apparently outweigh their Orthodox Christians nationalism. Can't risk losing access through the Dardanelles I guess...
When will the Armenian people see justice? How many more centuries will it be? How much more blood will be spilled and land will be stolen?


Armenian's Orthodoxy is Oriental Orthodoxy, which is a totally different ball game than the Russian Orthodoxy (Eastern Orthodox Christianity). They don't even agree on the same nature of Jesus.

Btw, Armenia is the first Christian country in the world.


Don't mean to derail the thread, but what is their concept of Christ's nature?

Most denominations of Christianity most familiar to us (catholic, eastern orthodox, (most?) Protestant) are dyophysite. That is, they believe that Christ had two distinct natures: one divine, and one mortal. Most Armenians follow Oriental Orthodox Christianity, which is miaphysite. Miaphysite believe that Christ had one nature which was both divine and mortal.


Sounds like a matter of semantics to me.


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20 Nov 2020, 12:55 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
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Most denominations of Christianity most familiar to us (catholic, eastern orthodox, (most?) Protestant) are dyophysite. That is, they believe that Christ had two distinct natures: one divine, and one mortal. Most Armenians follow Oriental Orthodox Christianity, which is miaphysite. Miaphysite believe that Christ had one nature which was both divine and mortal.


Sounds like a matter of semantics to me.

I'm not even christian so don't look at me lol. I know there are deeper theological implications for how these christological questions are answered but I just don't know enough christian theology to say.
Could make for a good topic in ppr I suppose.


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20 Nov 2020, 1:21 am

roronoa79 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
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Most denominations of Christianity most familiar to us (catholic, eastern orthodox, (most?) Protestant) are dyophysite. That is, they believe that Christ had two distinct natures: one divine, and one mortal. Most Armenians follow Oriental Orthodox Christianity, which is miaphysite. Miaphysite believe that Christ had one nature which was both divine and mortal.


Sounds like a matter of semantics to me.

I'm not even christian so don't look at me lol. I know there are deeper theological implications for how these christological questions are answered but I just don't know enough christian theology to say.
Could make for a good topic in ppr I suppose.


Regardless of terminology, I think the primary idea is the same.


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21 Nov 2020, 1:41 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
roronoa79 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
roronoa79 wrote:
Most denominations of Christianity most familiar to us (catholic, eastern orthodox, (most?) Protestant) are dyophysite. That is, they believe that Christ had two distinct natures: one divine, and one mortal. Most Armenians follow Oriental Orthodox Christianity, which is miaphysite. Miaphysite believe that Christ had one nature which was both divine and mortal.


Sounds like a matter of semantics to me.

I'm not even christian so don't look at me lol. I know there are deeper theological implications for how these christological questions are answered but I just don't know enough christian theology to say.
Could make for a good topic in ppr I suppose.


Regardless of terminology, I think the primary idea is the same.


Well, it seems it is a human nature to split as groups over the silliest differences.



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22 Nov 2020, 3:54 am