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how is flynn's call for a military coup not sedition?
it IS sedition. :x 67%  67%  [ 14 ]
it is NOT sedition. :D 14%  14%  [ 3 ]
i'm not sure. :shrug: 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
where's my fruit gelato? :chef: 19%  19%  [ 4 ]
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07 Dec 2020, 5:01 pm

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if it had been flynn instead of gen. butler during the 1933 business plot against FDR, we might well have become another dictatorship.


And unfortunately, most Americans don't even know that there had been a plan in the works to overthrow American democracy from within, during the Age of Fascism.


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07 Dec 2020, 5:02 pm

It's "responsible" to not give a potentially deadly disease to somebody. Simple as that.

Public Health over Politics!



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07 Dec 2020, 5:03 pm

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It's "responsible" to not give a potentially deadly disease to somebody. Simple as that.

Public Health over Politics!


Amen!


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07 Dec 2020, 6:09 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
It's "responsible" to not give a potentially deadly disease to somebody. Simple as that.

Public Health over Politics!


Amen!


Public Health (as a mandated directive) IS politics. And if not spreading a potentially deadly disease is the aim of humanity, we should all have spent our lives in bubbles from the moment bubbles were invented.

My God, you people are easily manipulated.



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07 Dec 2020, 7:54 pm

ezbzbfcg2 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
It's "responsible" to not give a potentially deadly disease to somebody. Simple as that.

Public Health over Politics!


Amen!


Public Health (as a mandated directive) IS politics. And if not spreading a potentially deadly disease is the aim of humanity, we should all have spent our lives in bubbles from the moment bubbles were invented.

My God, you people are easily manipulated.


Guess what; people have always worn masks, stayed inside, and even closed businesses during pandemics. It's only in modern times that idiots follow populist demagogues who tell them that taking sensible measures in order to save lives is a means for the government to take our freedom away!


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07 Dec 2020, 8:21 pm

Those people who took the polio vaccine without question weren't "sheeple." They were sensible. They didn't want to get paralyzed or get put in an iron lung.

There was no such thing as "anti-vaxxers" back then.

This is not a civil liberties issue. It's a public health issue.

Do we allow the Typhoid Marys of the world to cook in our restaurants????



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07 Dec 2020, 8:32 pm

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Those people who took the polio vaccine without question weren't "sheeple." They were sensible. They didn't want to get paralyzed or get put in an iron lung.

There was no such thing as "anti-vaxxers" back then.

This is not a civil liberties issue. It's a public health issue.

Do we allow the Typhoid Marys of the world to cook in our restaurants????


If Typhoid Mary lived today, she'd probably be wearing a MAGA hat, and Trump would come to her defense to make people's food without washing her hands after taking a sh*t.


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07 Dec 2020, 8:35 pm

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It's as taboo as it is obvious. You can't go around saying it because it undermines the belief in the moral legitimacy of these states and their governments as they currently exist. It's hard to argue that your country is a "beacon of hope" for the world when acknowledging its built on non-white bones and blood.


The counter-argument is that the beneficiaries of said genocide (the current descendants of settlers/colonists) can claim they were not responsible for the actions of their forebears.



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07 Dec 2020, 8:39 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Those people who took the polio vaccine without question weren't "sheeple." They were sensible. They didn't want to get paralyzed or get put in an iron lung.

There was no such thing as "anti-vaxxers" back then.

This is not a civil liberties issue. It's a public health issue.

Do we allow the Typhoid Marys of the world to cook in our restaurants????


If Typhoid Mary lived today, she'd probably be wearing a MAGA hat, and Trump would come to her defense to make people's food without washing her hands after taking a sh*t.


Knowing the way Trump thinks he would probably fund a hospital named after Typhoid Mary where doctors would take patients suffering stomach cramps and give them lysol and hydroquinone :lol:



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07 Dec 2020, 8:54 pm

cyberdad wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Those people who took the polio vaccine without question weren't "sheeple." They were sensible. They didn't want to get paralyzed or get put in an iron lung.

There was no such thing as "anti-vaxxers" back then.

This is not a civil liberties issue. It's a public health issue.

Do we allow the Typhoid Marys of the world to cook in our restaurants????


If Typhoid Mary lived today, she'd probably be wearing a MAGA hat, and Trump would come to her defense to make people's food without washing her hands after taking a sh*t.


Knowing the way Trump thinks he would probably fund a hospital named after Typhoid Mary where doctors would take patients suffering stomach cramps and give them lysol and hydroquinone :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol:


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07 Dec 2020, 9:32 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Those people who took the polio vaccine without question weren't "sheeple." They were sensible. They didn't want to get paralyzed or get put in an iron lung.

There was no such thing as "anti-vaxxers" back then.

This is not a civil liberties issue. It's a public health issue.

Do we allow the Typhoid Marys of the world to cook in our restaurants????


If Typhoid Mary lived today, she'd probably be wearing a MAGA hat, and Trump would come to her defense to make people's food without washing her hands after taking a sh*t.


Knowing the way Trump thinks he would probably fund a hospital named after Typhoid Mary where doctors would take patients suffering stomach cramps and give them lysol and hydroquinone :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol:


Actually now I am sad there are 71 million people in America who agree with the way this man thinks....



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07 Dec 2020, 9:35 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Guess what; people have always worn masks, stayed inside, and even closed businesses during pandemics. It's only in modern times that idiots follow populist demagogues who tell them that taking sensible measures in order to save lives is a means for the government to take our freedom away!


When was the last time something like this happened? The 1918 pandemic was much deadlier, but masks were worn by some people sometime of the time, not by a never-ending mandated decree. And guess what, a flu shot wasn't developed until nearly 30 years later. I don't recall reading about perpetual lock-downs and mask wearing all throughout the 1920s, 1930s, and WWII.



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07 Dec 2020, 9:39 pm

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I don't recall reading about perpetual lock-downs and mask wearing all throughout the 1920s, 1930s, and WWII.


That's the 2020 policy



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07 Dec 2020, 9:44 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Those people who took the polio vaccine without question weren't "sheeple." They were sensible. They didn't want to get paralyzed or get put in an iron lung.

There was no such thing as "anti-vaxxers" back then.

This is not a civil liberties issue. It's a public health issue.

Do we allow the Typhoid Marys of the world to cook in our restaurants????


If Typhoid Mary lived today, she'd probably be wearing a MAGA hat, and Trump would come to her defense to make people's food without washing her hands after taking a sh*t.


As for Typhoid Mary, she was one person who was a carrier of a very contagious and deadly virus that infected and killed people within weeks (if not days). She alone was a menace to public health.

Now, it seems society as a whole is treated like a public health concern unto itself. We're all to be treated like Typhoid Marys for a virus we may/may not have, and which is nowhere near as deadly as Typhoid fever. I suppose everyone should be perpetually locked up like she was in the name of "public health."

Vaccines are great when they work, but no one knew at first how long a vax would take to develop when this all began. We still don't know if the vaccine will be effective. Do we keep up a lockdown for decades if need be? They didn't lockdown society from 1918-1946, but I guess you guys will says that's all in the name of public health.

No one should take a sh*t, not wash their hands, and then cook food (whether they're a carrier of a virus or not). That's a BS cop out excuse and not comparable. But for society to be perpetually quarantined will have other adverse health effects on the public. But, hey, COVID trumps all.



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07 Dec 2020, 10:07 pm

Trump wants to Trump all....



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07 Dec 2020, 10:11 pm

Trump wants to Trump all....

Maybe if masks were worn during the 1918-1919 Pandemic, we wouldn’t have had the havoc that it ultimately wrought.

If a Democrat Liberal advocated Laissez-Faire, and a Republican Conservative advocated mask-wearing, I would side with the Republican Conservative on this issue.