20 Nov 2021, 2:38 am
20 Nov 2021, 2:40 am
20 Nov 2021, 2:43 am
DW_a_mom wrote:
Pepe wrote:
OK, pick this clean:
Quote:
President Joe Biden said Tuesday he was “praying” for a guilty verdict in the trial of Derek Chauvin, as the jury continues its second day of deliberations over the fate of the former Minneapolis police officer who killed George Floyd.
Although the White House sought to downplay the significance of the president’s remarks later in the afternoon, they nevertheless represented some of the most opinionated comments he has offered on Chauvin’s trial since it began in late March.
Although the White House sought to downplay the significance of the president’s remarks later in the afternoon, they nevertheless represented some of the most opinionated comments he has offered on Chauvin’s trial since it began in late March.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/2 ... ict-483463
Reads as basic reporting to me. Praying for a guilty verdict is within the lines; he's allowed an opinion, as long as the jury doesn't hear it.
That is how I saw it, but what about the ramifications if Chauvin wasn't found guilty?
Would Biden's comments have fueled the justification for revenge?
Answer: Yes.
Question:
Should Biden take responsibility for the ads made in his campaign?
Answer: Yes.
Was he personally aware of the contents involved?
I don't think either one of us is in a position to really know, unless you are a mind reader.
*Should* he have known?
Answer: Yes.
You are aware of the mob-threat mentality in America, if a judicial decision doesn't fall their way, right.
I think it safe to suggest that the threats of violence are factored into the decision making process.
This is just my *opinion*.
Feel free to disagree with me, if you wish.
20 Nov 2021, 2:44 am
Pepe wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
Pepe wrote:
OK, pick this clean:
Quote:
President Joe Biden said Tuesday he was “praying” for a guilty verdict in the trial of Derek Chauvin, as the jury continues its second day of deliberations over the fate of the former Minneapolis police officer who killed George Floyd.
Although the White House sought to downplay the significance of the president’s remarks later in the afternoon, they nevertheless represented some of the most opinionated comments he has offered on Chauvin’s trial since it began in late March.
Although the White House sought to downplay the significance of the president’s remarks later in the afternoon, they nevertheless represented some of the most opinionated comments he has offered on Chauvin’s trial since it began in late March.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/2 ... ict-483463
Reads as basic reporting to me. Praying for a guilty verdict is within the lines; he's allowed an opinion, as long as the jury doesn't hear it.
That is how I saw it, but what about the ramifications if Chauvin wasn't found guilty?
Would Biden's comments have fueled the justification for revenge?
Answer: Yes.
Question:
Should Biden take responsibility for the ads made in his campaign?
Answer: Yes.
Was he personally aware of the contents involved?
I don't think either one of us is in a position to really know, unless you are a mind reader.
*Should* he have known?
Answer: Yes.
You are aware of the mob-threat mentality in America, if a judicial decision doesn't fall their way, right.
I think it safe to suggest that the threats of violence are factored into the decision making process.
This is just my *opinion*.
Feel free to disagree with me, if you wish.
You're within the lines.
(not wholesale agreeing with all, but within possiblity)
Last edited by DW_a_mom on 20 Nov 2021, 2:46 am, edited 2 times in total.
20 Nov 2021, 2:45 am
Dox47 wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
When did the news irresponsibly report with Rittenhouse? Differences of opinion and perception are allowed.
You're seriously asking after a full year of the media screaming that he crossed state lines with a gun, that the gun possession was obviously illegal, that he shot wildly into the crowd, that he shot black people, that he was a racist white supremacist, that he belonged to a militia, that he fired dozens of rounds, that he was a domestic terrorist, that he was a vigilante, etc, etc?
Besides that.
20 Nov 2021, 2:46 am
DW_a_mom wrote:
Pepe wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
Pepe wrote:
OK, pick this clean:
Quote:
President Joe Biden said Tuesday he was “praying” for a guilty verdict in the trial of Derek Chauvin, as the jury continues its second day of deliberations over the fate of the former Minneapolis police officer who killed George Floyd.
Although the White House sought to downplay the significance of the president’s remarks later in the afternoon, they nevertheless represented some of the most opinionated comments he has offered on Chauvin’s trial since it began in late March.
Although the White House sought to downplay the significance of the president’s remarks later in the afternoon, they nevertheless represented some of the most opinionated comments he has offered on Chauvin’s trial since it began in late March.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/2 ... ict-483463
Reads as basic reporting to me. Praying for a guilty verdict is within the lines; he's allowed an opinion, as long as the jury doesn't hear it.
That is how I saw it, but what about the ramifications if Chauvin wasn't found guilty?
Would Biden's comments have fueled the justification for revenge?
Answer: Yes.
Question:
Should Biden take responsibility for the ads made in his campaign?
Answer: Yes.
Was he personally aware of the contents involved?
I don't think either one of us is in a position to really know, unless you are a mind reader.
*Should* he have known?
Answer: Yes.
You are aware of the mob-threat mentality in America, if a judicial decision doesn't fall their way, right.
I think it safe to suggest that the threats of violence are factored into the decision making process.
This is just my *opinion*.
Feel free to disagree with me, if you wish.
You're within the lines.
You are a quick reader, unlike me.
Could you explain what you mean by that?
Edit:
Question answered.
20 Nov 2021, 2:48 am
Pepe wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
Pepe wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
Pepe wrote:
OK, pick this clean:
Quote:
President Joe Biden said Tuesday he was “praying” for a guilty verdict in the trial of Derek Chauvin, as the jury continues its second day of deliberations over the fate of the former Minneapolis police officer who killed George Floyd.
Although the White House sought to downplay the significance of the president’s remarks later in the afternoon, they nevertheless represented some of the most opinionated comments he has offered on Chauvin’s trial since it began in late March.
Although the White House sought to downplay the significance of the president’s remarks later in the afternoon, they nevertheless represented some of the most opinionated comments he has offered on Chauvin’s trial since it began in late March.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/2 ... ict-483463
Reads as basic reporting to me. Praying for a guilty verdict is within the lines; he's allowed an opinion, as long as the jury doesn't hear it.
That is how I saw it, but what about the ramifications if Chauvin wasn't found guilty?
Would Biden's comments have fueled the justification for revenge?
Answer: Yes.
Question:
Should Biden take responsibility for the ads made in his campaign?
Answer: Yes.
Was he personally aware of the contents involved?
I don't think either one of us is in a position to really know, unless you are a mind reader.
*Should* he have known?
Answer: Yes.
You are aware of the mob-threat mentality in America, if a judicial decision doesn't fall their way, right.
I think it safe to suggest that the threats of violence are factored into the decision making process.
This is just my *opinion*.
Feel free to disagree with me, if you wish.
You're within the lines.
You are a quick reader, unlike me.
Could you explain what you mean by that?
Well, you read and answered fast enough to miss the edit I added.
Means I'm not wholesale agreeing with all your points, but none are out of the realm of possibility, either.
20 Nov 2021, 2:53 am
20 Nov 2021, 2:59 am
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
ironpony wrote:
So after all this, is Rittenhouse going to move to a netrual country like Switzerland, like Serpico had to do now, or I am guessing something like that?
Pretty sure he's a hero to millions of Americans.
Amerians are odd.
Personally, I see Rittenhouse as being lucky that politics didn't pervert justice, rather than him being a hero.
I.E. I don't see him as a hero at all.
I see him as a stupid kid who got himself in a stupid situation.
I strongly suspect he would have been found guilty if the 2 people he killed were POC.
As you can see, unlike Uncle Joe, I don't have much faith in the American judiciary system when it involves "political" situations.
This is simply my *opinion*.
Ah! I'm over American politics and law
20 Nov 2021, 3:01 am
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20 Nov 2021, 3:03 am
20 Nov 2021, 3:09 am
DW_a_mom wrote:
There are rumblings that some jurors may have been afraid of the groups backing Rittenhouse. Do you think that is possible?
Given there was so many claims of jury tampering I am wondering in high profile cases whether the jury is selected and participate in some anonymous/blind fashion so their identity is not known.
Your point reminds me that some of Rittenhouse's supporters turned up to the court fully armed. Perhaps sending an indirect message to the jury.
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20 Nov 2021, 3:12 am
cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
ironpony wrote:
So after all this, is Rittenhouse going to move to a netrual country like Switzerland, like Serpico had to do now, or I am guessing something like that?
Pretty sure he's a hero to millions of Americans.
Amerians are odd.
Personally, I see Rittenhouse as being lucky that politics didn't pervert justice, rather than him being a hero.
I.E. I don't see him as a hero at all.
I see him as a stupid kid who got himself in a stupid situation.
I strongly suspect he would have been found guilty if the 2 people he killed were POC.
As you can see, unlike Uncle Joe, I don't have much faith in the American judiciary system when it involves "political" situations.
This is simply my *opinion*.
Ah! I'm over American politics and law
If only it was so easy...The U.S is like a superpower in the world or it was...who knows with what trump did. Its just th e thing is American politics effect the rest of the world...at least how it stands now. You can't be 'over' american politics since it effects the whole world.
I get the sentiment, but don't give in so far you don't vote.....there are a lot of peopele who might vote well, but they refuse the vote
and I for one am majorly pissed at those people becuase they could help prevent trump or someone like trump in 2024 but there is a good chance they wont vote. Like f**ck in 4 years we may get facism and some f*****s still insist on saying they don't believe in voting so wont even throw in a vote against facism.
20 Nov 2021, 3:15 am
Sweetleaf wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
I figured not all the charges would stick, but no charges and he walks free I felt was a stretch of imagination...But I guess the nightmare became true.
Same here. I thought at least a lesser version of one the "reckless" charges ...
There are rumblings that some jurors may have been afraid of the groups backing Rittenhouse. Do you think that is possible?
The way things are going in this country...I would not rule it out as a possibility.
The same way the leftist thugs intimidated in other contentious trials?
Get outta here.
"Rule by the mod" seems to be in vogue in America, these days.
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20 Nov 2021, 3:17 am
Pepe wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
I figured not all the charges would stick, but no charges and he walks free I felt was a stretch of imagination...But I guess the nightmare became true.
Same here. I thought at least a lesser version of one the "reckless" charges ...
There are rumblings that some jurors may have been afraid of the groups backing Rittenhouse. Do you think that is possible?
The way things are going in this country...I would not rule it out as a possibility.
The same way the leftist thugs intimidated in other contentious trials?
Get outta here.
"Rule by the mod" seems to be in vogue in America, these days.
All I can say is this is a s**t country, don't come here for vacation it's not worth it.
20 Nov 2021, 3:18 am
Sweetleaf wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
ironpony wrote:
So after all this, is Rittenhouse going to move to a netrual country like Switzerland, like Serpico had to do now, or I am guessing something like that?
Pretty sure he's a hero to millions of Americans.
Amerians are odd.
Personally, I see Rittenhouse as being lucky that politics didn't pervert justice, rather than him being a hero.
I.E. I don't see him as a hero at all.
I see him as a stupid kid who got himself in a stupid situation.
I strongly suspect he would have been found guilty if the 2 people he killed were POC.
As you can see, unlike Uncle Joe, I don't have much faith in the American judiciary system when it involves "political" situations.
This is simply my *opinion*.
Ah! I'm over American politics and law
If only it was so easy...The U.S is like a superpower in the world or it was...who knows with what trump did. Its just th e thing is American politics effect the rest of the world...at least how it stands now. You can't be 'over' american politics since it effects the whole world.
I get the sentiment, but don't give in so far you don't vote.....there are a lot of peopele who might vote well, but they refuse the vote
and I for one am majorly pissed at those people becuase they could help prevent trump or someone like trump in 2024 but there is a good chance they wont vote. Like f**ck in 4 years we may get facism and some f*****s still insist on saying they don't believe in voting so wont even throw in a vote against facism.Don't tell anyone, but I don't vote for any party, these days. Shhhh.
