Trump trial verdict is in - guilty!

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01 Jun 2024, 3:04 pm

we are just about at a critical mass of sociopathic citizens who historically bring down their own nations. we wouldn't be the first failed state.

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03 Jun 2024, 12:30 pm

"Bombshell Report Reveals Team Trump Is Rewarding Key Trial Witnesses"

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Donald Trump’s campaign and the Trump Organization paid off nine witnesses called to testify in criminal cases against Trump, an explosive new report from ProPublica reveals. Witnesses who testified in defense of Trump for his numerous criminal cases received massive raises, new jobs, cushy severance packages, and more, all conveniently coinciding with being called to testify or after providing testimony favorable to Trump—and the excuses from Team Trump couldn’t be weaker.

Barbara McQuade, a former U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan, told ProPublica witness tampering is often difficult to prove because the gimmick is often not done explicitly. But the trend could assist prosecutors in their efforts to call into question the credibility of witnesses testifying in Trump’s defense for his innumerable legal battles.

In response to queries by ProPublica, team Trump claimed the nine witnesses who all saw big raises and flashy new jobs simply took on more work. The campaign also insisted Trump, who notoriously insists on controlling every facet of his organizations, has no say in who gets promoted or how much they’re paid. “The president is not involved in the decision-making process,” a Trump campaign official told ProPublica. “I would argue Trump doesn’t know what we’re paid.”

I'm kind of reminded of this.

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03 Jun 2024, 2:04 pm

So instead of subtracting those 34 counts from the 88 he was facing in total...we have to add some new counts ...of witless tampering?

I mean "witness tampering"?

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03 Jun 2024, 8:45 pm

Ryan Sohmer and Lar DeSouza said something profound in their "Least I could Do" webcomic:

Trump cultists are claiming he was treated differently because of who he is.

They're not wrong.

But not the way they think.

It took six years to get to this point.

Anyone else would already be serving year 4 of their 8 year sentence.

Link to Webcomic

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03 Jun 2024, 9:39 pm

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03 Jun 2024, 10:07 pm

I wonder how long it will take for trumpie's supremes to protect him from all the federal charges?

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04 Jun 2024, 1:23 pm

auntblabby wrote:

I wonder how long it will take for trumpie's supremes to protect him from all the federal charges?

Yep. They cant do it NOW- give Trump immunity from prosecution...because that would also protect Biden from the rule of law and would legalize Biden having Trump outright murdered.

So they hafta wait until Trump gets elected in order to change the Constitution in the way they want...to protect Trump from the rule of law.

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05 Jun 2024, 4:16 am

I think that this is appropriate for this occasion:

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05 Jun 2024, 1:54 pm

Jono wrote:

I think that this is appropriate for this occasion:

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05 Jun 2024, 2:33 pm

I'll bet RFK Jr. will be the next president and the USA and the entire world will be even worse than before. It will be Canada that needs to build a wall, or dig a large trench across the boarder to physically separate us. Of course the USA will tell us not to, because they're telling what we can or cannot do and we're sick of it.

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05 Jun 2024, 4:00 pm

lostonearth35 wrote:

That's giving RFK Jr. more political cred than he deserves. But as he's drawing more Republican support that Democrat, due to his antivax looniness, he might just spoil Trump's chances.

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06 Jun 2024, 8:51 pm

Cornflake wrote:

Trump says verdict is a 'disgrace'

Donald Trump has emerged from court and is speaking to media.

He starts by saying: "This was a disgrace, this was a rigged trial".

Yeah and he said the judge is a "very, very sick man". Here's the thing about people with Trump's level of intelligence. They only argue by assertion.

Trump only makes assertions. Always without evidence and without argument.

Trump never backs up his claims with actual arguments not because he doesn't want to but because he literally can't comprehend what an argument is.

He has no concept of argument. Just assertion. Trying to explain to him what an argument is would be like describing colour to someone blind from birth.

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06 Jun 2024, 8:57 pm

auntblabby wrote:

we are just about at a critical mass of sociopathic citizens who historically bring down their own nations. we wouldn't be the first failed state.

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01 Jul 2024, 11:28 am

Trump just got immunity from the supreme court so now he's above the law as soon as his second term begins.

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01 Jul 2024, 11:31 am

Aspiegaming wrote:

Trump just got immunity from the supreme court so now he's above the law as soon as his second term begins.

The ruling though applies only to official acts as President and in regards to the July 6th cases. His payment to Stormy Daniels was before he was President and certainly was not an official act as President and so that verdict cannot be overturned on those ground.

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01 Jul 2024, 11:39 am

demeus wrote:

Aspiegaming wrote:

Trump just got immunity from the supreme court so now he's above the law as soon as his second term begins.

I'm sure his lawyers will fight tooth and nail to change that.

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