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09 Apr 2020, 2:31 pm

I am not far from sewing together scraps of fabric to keep using the kind I want to keep using.



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09 Apr 2020, 2:52 pm

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With the exception of Georgia and Louisiana, the southern states are faring fairly well.

So far so good here.I think it’s because our tourists season doesn’t start till spring and we ran them off this year.Mardi Gras is most likely what causes the high cases in Louisiana.Maybe in Georgia people going to cities like Savannah that have a mild winter climate?
The 2017-2018 flu season was worse,172 deaths and this year it is 118.Still more than covid.I really hope the posters that think the warmer summer months will slow it down are correct.Maybe if it pops back up in the fall we will all be better prepared.


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09 Apr 2020, 3:44 pm

The biggest driving factor of transmission is human behavior. While I understand the psychological benefit of optimism, it can be dangerous to tell everyone that warm weather will drive away the virus. A certain percentage of the masses will then think, "we'll be safe down south," and pile into their trucks and vans to go road tripping to southern states, or hop on planes to take tropical vacations. Thus spreading the virus and setting us back further.



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09 Apr 2020, 3:47 pm

I am working at a Giant Eagle Supermarket. I never imagined people would ever feel compelled to thank me for working as a Parking Lot Attendant until COVID-19.


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09 Apr 2020, 4:12 pm

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New York now leads every country in coronavirus cases
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New York state is now the coronavirus capital of the world, logging more COVID-19 cases than any other country across the globe outside of the US.

As of Thursday, the Empire State had recorded a total of 159,937 confirmed coronavirus cases — a jump of more than 10,000 new cases from the day before.

There’ve been 7,067 deaths as a result of the contagion in the state so far, with a record 799 deaths overnight.

The state has now surpassed the coronavirus cases in every other country worldwide.

It’s followed by Spain and Italy, which have 152,446 and 139,422 COVID-19 cases, respectively, according to the latest data from Johns Hopkins University.

Germany has 113,615 cases, followed by France with 83,080, China at 82,883, and Iran with 66,220 cases, the data shows.

The UK has now logged a total of 61,497 coronavirus cases, while Turkey has recorded 38,226 cases, according to the data.

Overall, the US has confirmed a total of 432,596 COVID-19 cases with 14,831 deaths caused by the disease as of Thursday.

In New York City alone, official statistics released Thursday morning show, 4,426 people have died from coronavirus, while the number of confirmed cases has grown to 84,373.

“No one ever heard of this disease six months ago — it didn’t even exist yet and yet it’s visited upon us in a way that’s the worst in our nation,” Mayor Bill de Blasio said during his City Hall press briefing Thursday.


I will never live in an extremely high population density area for many reasons including how they fare in pandemic or national emergency situations. That said, my heart goes out to everyone who does live in such areas including of course WP members that do.



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09 Apr 2020, 4:21 pm

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I am working at a Giant Eagle Supermarket. I never imagined people would ever feel compelled to thank me for working as a Parking Lot Attendant until COVID-19.

Thank you and stay safe.


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09 Apr 2020, 7:07 pm

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I am working at a Giant Eagle Supermarket. I never imagined people would ever feel compelled to thank me for working as a Parking Lot Attendant until COVID-19.

You a hero now young man



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09 Apr 2020, 8:59 pm

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Much of the U.S. response to the coronavirus pandemic relied on the accuracy of coronavirus models. Many of these models were generated by the IHME. The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) is an independent global health research center at the University of Washington. The projection of the number of U.S. deaths from the coronavirus has shifted downward rather dramatically very quickly.

If there are still any actual investigative journalists left in the world, we'll find out over the course of the year how much these "expert" models were politically manipulated to intentionally create panic and damage the economy.

COVID-19 Projection Models Are Proving to Be Unreliable

To describe as stunning the collapse of a key model the government has used to alarm the nation about the catastrophic threat of the coronavirus would not do this development justice.

In a space of just six days starting April 2, two revisions ( on April 5 and 8 ) have utterly discredited the model produced by the University of Washington’s Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation. I wrote about the IHME’s modeling at National Review on Monday, the day after the first revision — which was dramatic, but pales in comparison to Wednesday’s reassessment. This was not immediately apparent because the latest revision ( April 8 ) did not include a side-by-side comparison, as did the April 5 revision. Perusal of the new data, however, is staggering, as is what it says about government predictions we were hearing just days ago about the likelihood of 100,000 deaths, with as many as 240,000 a real possibility.

As I noted in my last post on this subject, by April 5, the projection of likely deaths had plunged 12 percent in just three days, 93,531 to 81,766. Understand, this projection is drawn from a range; on April 2, IHME was telling us cumulative COVID-19 deaths could reach as high as approximately 178,000. The upper range was also reduced on April 5 to about 136,000.

On April 8, the projected cumulative deaths were slashed to 60,145 (with the upper range again cut, to about 126,000). That is, in less than a week, the model proved to be off by more than 33 percent.

My use of the term “off” is intentional. There is no shortage of government spin, regurgitated by media commentators, assuring us that the drastic reductions in the projections over just a few days powerfully illustrate how well social distancing and the substantial shuttering of the economy is working. Nonsense. As Alex Berenson points out on Twitter, with an accompanying screenshot data updated by IHME on April 1, the original April 2 model explicitly “assum[ed] full social distancing through May 2020.”

The model on which the government is relying is simply unreliable. It is not that social distancing has changed the equation; it is that the equation’s fundamental assumptions are so dead wrong, they cannot remain reasonably stable for just 72 hours.


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09 Apr 2020, 9:00 pm

Syd wrote:
The biggest driving factor of transmission is human behavior. While I understand the psychological benefit of optimism, it can be dangerous to tell everyone that warm weather will drive away the virus. A certain percentage of the masses will then think, "we'll be safe down south," and pile into their trucks and vans to go road tripping to southern states, or hop on planes to take tropical vacations. Thus spreading the virus and setting us back further.


Even traveling to neighboring towns and cities is being discouraged. Hopefully most people will adhere to that until at least late June when it is actually summer. I have canceled plans to visit certain places.



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09 Apr 2020, 9:01 pm

We are going to have at least 50,000 deaths....there’s no way around that.



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09 Apr 2020, 9:03 pm

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We are going to have at least 50,000 deaths....there’s no way around that.


That unfortunately is about a standard number when it comes to virus deaths.



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09 Apr 2020, 9:09 pm

There are certainly excessive deaths in at least some states in the US. And certainly in places like Italy.

Cuomo isn’t using propaganda when he’s calling for funeral directors from outside NYC.....to attend to those who died in NYC.



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09 Apr 2020, 9:44 pm

EzraS wrote:
Syd wrote:
The biggest driving factor of transmission is human behavior. While I understand the psychological benefit of optimism, it can be dangerous to tell everyone that warm weather will drive away the virus. A certain percentage of the masses will then think, "we'll be safe down south," and pile into their trucks and vans to go road tripping to southern states, or hop on planes to take tropical vacations. Thus spreading the virus and setting us back further.


Even traveling to neighboring towns and cities is being discouraged. Hopefully most people will adhere to that until at least late June when it is actually summer. I have canceled plans to visit certain places.


Not here... Im quite shocked at how casual it is overall. Bevause the media makes me thibk ppl are freaking out.

My city has really diligent and proper people and then Im visiting My brothers here and every plaza was packed nobody cared..
Playgrounds are open and fine here... Rifht by my brothers home there were about 6 ppl and dogs and nobody was worried aboyt police...

even though I heard from ppl that in my city they are closed and u get fined 1000 if you take your kids there .. Many Police cars are patrolling around my city by every public place


The main mask-wearing I saw in my brothers city today...

was myself and a couple of elders ...

And I'm only doing it because I was told to strictly by nursing agency since their employees come to my place daily...

where I live most people in my neighbourhood are Chinese speaking and every one of them is diligent and proper about following the recommendations...maybe too much



but I think since the virus began in China the people in my area (most of my neighbours) were more concerned and took initiative from the beginning.

Maybe it affected their relatives in China more so they felt more anxious. Also lots of ppl cancelled their plans to visit China because of this.

However where my brothers live has more elderly people so I thought they would be more concerned overall.


They are also much wealthier here compared to my neighbourhood...

so I thought they would be ok to pay the exorbitant prices for masks or gloves or be worried about dying at least since they must have TVs at home screeching at them


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09 Apr 2020, 9:46 pm

Here in Melbourne you can get a on the spot fine if you don't have a good reason to be driving on road.



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09 Apr 2020, 9:47 pm

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...My city...


You're in Toronto, no?


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09 Apr 2020, 9:57 pm

No my sister is in Toronto. I'm more up north.

I wish I lived by my brothers' place. Except I don't like the people ....overall they can be snobby.
They treat u badly unless they realize you (seem to) have money ....and then they treat you nicely.

The people where I am are nice automatically apart from my past lawyer. Even the police are nice.


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