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11 Jan 2020, 7:50 pm

Yep, it takes a real bird-brain to believe Jeffrey Epstein was the victim of a conspiracy.



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11 Jan 2020, 8:09 pm

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:lol: Classic.


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12 Jan 2020, 8:01 pm

I was watching the 60 minutes thing the other day.

He is supposed to have torn up his bedsheets to make the nooses, right?
And the guards are supposed to have cut him down, right?

Well this is a link to the evidence photo of the noose on CBS news.

https://cbsnews3.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r ... 6-copy.jpg

Anyone else notice that the noose is hemmed and, near as I can tell, machine stitched on both long sides? (You can use Ctrl and + to blow up the size of the picture in your browser).
And you can see the folds where it's been stitched, and if you blow it up, the seam of the stitches as well, it looks machine stitched to me.
(That's easiest to see at the corners of the upper loose end).

I could imagine that would be so for a single one of the two long sides, if he tore it right at the edge of the blanket, but it's hemmed and stitched on both of the long sides???

Also it doesn't look to have been cut either, those are folded and sewn corners, on the far end that the guard is supposed to have cut to get him down.

How can the noose have hems and machine stitching on both long edges if it was a DIY job by tearing up a bed sheet in a cell.
I don't see any way that you could get that.



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12 Jan 2020, 8:26 pm

SpiceWolf wrote:
How can the noose have hems and machine stitching on both long edges if it was a DIY job by tearing up a bed sheet in a cell.
I don't see any way that you could get that.


Have to admit that the bed sheet seems to have been torn in a beautifully straight line before stitching. Maybe the kind guards had access to a Singer sewing machine to help Jeffrey create this masterpiece :lol:



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12 Jan 2020, 11:30 pm

It’s not at all uncommon for people in his situation to commit suicide, especially if, due to the nature of his crimes, he was experiencing some “hazing” in prison.

Just stating the obvious...

The conspiracies are certainly possible but I think that suicide is most likely.



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12 Jan 2020, 11:32 pm

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It’s not at all uncommon for people in his situation to commit suicide, especially if, due to the nature of his crimes, he was experiencing some “hazing” in prison.

Just stating the obvious...

The conspiracies are certainly possible but I think that suicide is most likely.


We are entertaining the conspiracy faithful....I wouldn't go as far as Fnord to call them bird brains as I'm also partial to a good conspiracy



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12 Jan 2020, 11:44 pm

cyberdad wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
It’s not at all uncommon for people in his situation to commit suicide, especially if, due to the nature of his crimes, he was experiencing some “hazing” in prison.

Just stating the obvious...

The conspiracies are certainly possible but I think that suicide is most likely.


We are entertaining the conspiracy faithful....I wouldn't go as far as Fnord to call them bird brains as I'm also partial to a good conspiracy


A person can be quite clever (even ingenious) in coming up with a good, complex conspiracy theory, but depending on the theory, there may be some huge errors in judgment and critical thinking along the way.

I’m just speaking in general terms and am not alluding to anyone on this board at this time.



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12 Jan 2020, 11:51 pm

i wonder if the people who poo-poo conspiracy here, also believe in the magic bullet theory?



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12 Jan 2020, 11:57 pm

auntblabby wrote:
i wonder if the people who poo-poo conspiracy here, also believe in the magic bullet theory?


I’m not necessarily always against conspiracy theories. I take them on a case-by-case basis. They are often false, disproven, or are not backed by enough evidence to be proven. I think the simplest solution is most often the correct one, but of course, that isn’t always the case.



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13 Jan 2020, 12:17 am

auntblabby wrote:
i wonder if the people who poo-poo conspiracy here, also believe in the magic bullet theory?


The magic bullet theory was dismissed when it became known that the front jump seats in the car were askew from the rear bench. Connolly was to Kennedy's left, rather than directly in front of him. So the bullet actually caused those injuries traveling in a straight line.



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13 Jan 2020, 1:06 am

Twilightprincess wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
It’s not at all uncommon for people in his situation to commit suicide, especially if, due to the nature of his crimes, he was experiencing some “hazing” in prison.

Just stating the obvious...

The conspiracies are certainly possible but I think that suicide is most likely.


We are entertaining the conspiracy faithful....I wouldn't go as far as Fnord to call them bird brains as I'm also partial to a good conspiracy


A person can be quite clever (even ingenious) in coming up with a good, complex conspiracy theory, but depending on the theory, there may be some huge errors in judgment and critical thinking along the way.

I’m just speaking in general terms and am not alluding to anyone on this board at this time.


Agreed, often uses quite a lot of creativity to come up with a good conspiracy



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13 Jan 2020, 1:08 am

EzraS wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
i wonder if the people who poo-poo conspiracy here, also believe in the magic bullet theory?


The magic bullet theory was dismissed when it became known that the front jump seats in the car were askew from the rear bench. Connolly was to Kennedy's left, rather than directly in front of him. So the bullet actually caused those injuries traveling in a straight line.


That might explain the trajectory but not why the bullet kept going after removing Kennedy's scalp (which in all probability should have changed the trajectory of the aforementioned bullet)



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13 Jan 2020, 1:43 am

The second bullet went through Kennedy's neck and into Connolly. The third bullet caused the head wound.



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13 Jan 2020, 1:52 am

The conspiracy theory is that Epstein killed himself as there is zero evidence for that. All the evidence points to murder.


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13 Jan 2020, 2:57 am

EzraS wrote:
The second bullet went through Kennedy's neck and into Connolly. The third bullet caused the head wound.

Ahh ok so the third bullet was the one that looked like it came from the front of kennedy rather than behind from the book depository (why do I have the feeling we had this conversation before).



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14 Jan 2020, 2:32 pm

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