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11 Apr 2020, 11:17 am

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Not that it matters....but NYC has “only” about 5,500 deaths. The 7,800 figure is for the entire State of New York.

The 607 figure is probably for the entire state of Illinois, though Chicago probably has most of these deaths.


Navigating a site like www1.nyc.gov can be a bit difficult. Typing "2019 deaths" into the search box certainly does not bring up that info off the bat (no pun intended). I did find this: https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/about/pre ... irths.page

Mortality

The citywide age-adjusted death rate decreased between 2016 and 2017, from 575.4 per 100,000 population to 545.7. Over the past ten years, the age-adjusted death rate decreased by 17.4%.
From 2016 to 2017, the age-adjusted death rate decreased among Hispanics by 5.2%, among non-Hispanic blacks by 2.7%, among non-Hispanic whites by 6.1%, and among Asians and Pacific Islanders by 4.0%.
Death rates due to all three of the leading causes of death in New York City – heart disease, cancer, and influenza/pneumonia – have declined since 2008. The crude rates are down 20.0%, 1.2%, and 17.8%, respectively.
The age-adjusted mortality rate in neighborhoods with very high poverty was 1.5 times the rate in neighborhoods with low poverty in 2017, reflecting a consistent disparity – the rate was also 1.5 times as high in 2008.
Drug-related deaths have remained as the seventh leading cause of death in 2017 since 2016.



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11 Apr 2020, 11:22 am

Go into “Coronavirus info” at the top.

Then go into “New York City Health Department: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)” towards the middle of the page.

There a link which explicitly states that it’s about deaths from COVID 19.



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11 Apr 2020, 11:29 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Not that it matters....but NYC has “only” about 5,500 deaths. The 7,800 figure is for the entire State of New York.

The 607 figure is probably for the entire state of Illinois, though Chicago probably has most of these deaths.


Thanks, made corrections.


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11 Apr 2020, 11:30 am

I wanted to know what the mortality rate has been in previous years.



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11 Apr 2020, 11:32 am

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I noticed that San Francisco has relatively high ridership, but a relatively low amount of deaths.
It’s because California did an excellent job of containment.
BART, in San Francisco, is a substantial system. DC’s is really not all that substantial..


That is a good question. What did California do differently? I only rode the Bart system once in San Francisco. I remember it was very outdoors, very open. I think it was pretty clean.


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11 Apr 2020, 11:56 am

Something a lot of people probably do not fully understand is that it can be extremely difficult to get a significantly autistic mind to cooperate. When people post links to websites and articles and videos, it can be very difficult to get my mind to let me take in and or seek out the information. It's like there is a part of the mind that says "screw that it's not going to happen". I can work around that to a degree but it is not all that easy and it is time consuming.



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11 Apr 2020, 12:21 pm

EzraS wrote:
Something a lot of people probably do not fully understand is that it can be extremely difficult to get a significantly autistic mind to cooperate. When people post links to websites and articles and videos, it can be very difficult to get my mind to let me take in and or seek out the information. It's like there is a part of the mind that says "screw that it's not going to happen". I can work around that to a degree but it is not all that easy and it is time consuming.

Do you think Pablo Pineda doesn't have challenges? Frankly, he cannot even speak clearly. But, what he has, is self-esteem. He doesn't make excuses. He enjoys learning. He knows his limitations, but as he has said once very well: we all have our limitations. So, he doesn't let things bother him. People have come to respect him.

To me, Pablo Pineda has more self-esteem, than Murray Gell-Mann, a Nobel-Prize winner. Self-esteem has nothing to do with your capabilities.


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11 Apr 2020, 1:13 pm

Texas making plans for reopening of economy.


Gov. Greg Abbott: executive order to reopen businesses expected next week

AUSTIN, Texas — At his third press conference of the week, Gov. Greg Abbott says Texas businesses can expect an executive order from his office next week, with plans on how to begin reopening the state's economy.

Abbott says he has been in constant contact with President Trump, Vice President Pence, and Treasury Secretary Mnuchin to discuss how to proceed with beginning the process of allowing businesses to open up again.

"We have a desire to make sure it's done in a way that it's safe, understanding that if everyone were to rush the doors and go back into the job market overnight, we would see an outbreak of COVID-19 all over again. That's exactly why I'm issuing the executive order next week establishing what the statewide standards would be in the coming days about what the approach is. These are standards we've been working in conjunction with the White House on," Abbott said. "We will focus on protecting lives, while restoring livelihoods. We can and we must do this. We can do both."

This announcement came hours after Lieutenant Gov. Dan Patrick said on a town hall call with the Texas GOP that he would like to start opening businesses back up by the first week of May.

"We’re not going to open up everything immediately, but it will be done in phases, but we need to get started, and I hope that’s the first week of May, barring any unforeseen big spikes," Patrick said on the call.


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11 Apr 2020, 1:16 pm

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Sadly, critical thinking with research abilities are not often taught to students in the US. ...
... Yes, that above is the bane of my existence as a teacher. I told them to be successful in their future careers that they must be adaptable to changes in the world, as it waits for no one. They must learn to think for themselves or they will at best be treading water the rest of their working lives. To be able to solve the paradox of this virus will require thinking that is way outside of the norm. The solution will not be found by those who do the bare minimum of thinking about it and complaining that it is too hard to do.

I often feel the same way about the education in the US. There is too much "Asianization" in the current education system. People pay too much attention to skills, and forget about creativity. Creativity cannot be taught. Also, creativity and rules don't mix. By demanding children to conform, to follow rules/manners, to respect authorities, to become neurotypical, we are destroying their creativity.

The end result is we don't get independent thinkers. Instead, most people are nothing without an authority. They are followers, not leaders. They can only parrot other people's points of views, and never able to come up with their own explanations. When other people are wrong, they just follow suit and be wrong, too.

We don't need more parrots in our societies. We need independent thinkers than can see things that no one else can see, solve problems that no one else can solve, say things that no one else has said.

What I see is that by the time students get into high school, they have completely lost their creativity. It is no surprise that people stop learning once they are out of school. I have walked into a kindergarten and seen children drawing pictures: stick figures. Guess what? Every single student drew differently. All children are creative, in their kindergarten days. In contrast, most adults that I meet today, get immediately frozen when I ask them to draw a stick figure picture. No, really. They behave worse than deer in headlights. How did we manage to destroy the creativity that everyone has had once upon a time?

Asianization of education is not the way to go. We need to let the minds of our youngsters go free. Creativity is our competitive edge, why do we want to lose it?


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11 Apr 2020, 1:39 pm

Ezra, how would I post the link which has the stats within WP?



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11 Apr 2020, 2:07 pm

This is the best I can do.

The first number is "patient had underlying conditions"

The second number is "patient had no underlying conditions.

The third number is "underlying conditions unknown."

The fourth number is "total number of deaths."

For the 0-17 age group, for example, there were 3 deaths among people with underlying conditions. Zero deaths among people with no underlying conditions. Zero deaths where "underlying conditions are under investigation." For a total of 3 deaths. It shows up here as "3 0 0 3."

The total number of deaths as of 12:30 PM April 11th:

Underlying conditions: 4276

No underlying conditions: 110

Underlying conditions unk: 1077

Total: 5463

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) Daily Data Summary

The data in this report reflect events and activities as of April 11, 2020 at 9:00 AM.
All data in this report are preliminary and subject to change as cases continue to be investigated. These data include cases in NYC residents and foreign residents treated in NYC facilities.

NYC COVID-19 Deaths
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Underlying Conditions1
No Underlying Conditions
Underlying Conditions Unknown
Total
Age Group - 0 to 17 3 0 0 3 - 18 to 44 208 23 33 264 - 45 to 64 1103 48 147 1298 - 65 to 74 1079 18 251 1348 - 75 and over 1883 21 646 2550 Sex - Female 1545 24 421 1990 - Male 2539 82 636 3257 - Unknown 192 4 20 216 Borough - Bronx 1165 11 94 1270 - Brooklyn 1090 42 379 1511 - Manhattan 450 14 166 630 - Queens 1354 40 368 1762 - Staten Island 216 3 70 289 - Unknown 1 0 0 1 Total 4276 110 1077 5463

1Underlying illnesses include Diabetes, Lung Disease, Cancer, Immunodeficiency, Heart Disease, Hypertension, Asthma, Kidney



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11 Apr 2020, 2:29 pm

A new tally shows 2,246 people have died inside nursing home deaths from the coronavirus in at least 24 states.

The numbers were compiled by NBC News, which also reported that nearly 2,500 long-term care facilities in 36 states are battling coronavirus cases - an explosive 522 percent increase in just 10 days.

The numbers are incomplete because the federal government doesn’t keep a formal tally of coronavirus deaths in nursing homes or the number of facilities with infections, according to the network on Friday.

The report comes as The New York Times on Saturday reported equally disturbing numbers regarding coronavirus deaths at nursing homes in New York and New Jersey.

As of Friday, more than half of New York’s 613 licensed nursing homes had reported coronavirus infections, with 4,630 total positive cases and 1,439 deaths, the Times reported.

In New Jersey, nursing homes had been linked to 252 virus-related deaths, more than 90 of them in the past two days, according to the paper. At least 70 percent of the state’s long care centers have been affected by the coronavirus outbreak.

Nursing homes in other states are battling to contain the spread of the virus, which has been found to be more fatal for people who are older.

In Florida, there have been 731 coronavirus cases in long-term care facilities, according to a Fox News tally Saturday. On March 22, there were only 30 such cases. Florida doesn't track deaths.

Fox News also found that there have been coronavirus outbreaks at 47 nursing homes in Mississippi, at 29 nursing homes in North Carolina and at 10 nursing homes in Tennessee. There were 10 deaths at one Tennessee facility.

Separately, in Georgia, the number of long-term care facilities with coronavirus outbreaks grew in seven days from 47 to 80 on Friday, according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

The paper quoted health officials as reported Wednesday that 81 people in long-term facilities had died from the coronavirus.

One of the deadliest nursing home coronavirus outbreaks has overwhelmed Canterbury Rehabilitation & Healthcare Center in Henrico County, near Richmond, Virginia.

The facility reported another COVID-19 death Friday, putting the center’s death count at 40, according to WRIC-TV.

Earlier in the week, the facility said the virus had killed 28 residents and sickened nearly 100 more.

“This will not be the last untreatable virus to decimate our elders,” Canterbury’s medical director Dr. James Wright told a news conference Friday, according to WRIC. “It is a battle that at times we feel we’re losing. It’s a battle that we have fight day and night, seven days a week.”

Source: More than 2,200 have died of coronavirus inside nursing homes but feds aren’t tracking the numbers: report


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11 Apr 2020, 2:53 pm

If NYC were a country, it would in 6th place in the amount of Coronavirus cases: 96,562

It would also be in 6th place in deaths: 5,463


NYC has about 8.6 million people within about 300 square miles.



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11 Apr 2020, 3:53 pm

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Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I see that it's trending on multiple news sites. Perhaps this partly explains why Florida's numbers have been unusually low. The government needs to fix this awful mistake and start counting the nursing home deaths as soon as possible!

According to CDC, there are 15,600 nursing homes in the United States, occupied by 1.4 million patients.

If just 1% of those patients die and they aren't counted, that would amount to over 14,000 unreported deaths.



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11 Apr 2020, 3:55 pm

There are certainly many people dying in nursing homes.



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11 Apr 2020, 4:36 pm

Clinical trial to investigate nitric oxide for COVID-19 treatment

Doctors at the University of Alabama at Birmingham are enrolling patients in an international clinical trial to find out if inhaled nitric oxide benefits those with COVID-19 who have severely damaged lungs.

Right now, there are no approved treatments for the illness caused by the new coronavirus. A severe form of lung failure called acute respiratory distress syndrome is the leading cause of death in COVID-19.

When lungs are failing, air is received by some parts of them but not others. Nitric oxide is a gas that improves blood flow in areas of the lungs that are getting air, increasing the amount of oxygen in the blood stream.

Nitric oxide also reduces the workload of the right side of the heart, which is under extreme stress during lung failure.

Along with being used to treat failing lungs, nitric oxide has been found to have antiviral properties against coronaviruses. That was shown during the 2002-2003 SARS outbreak, which was caused by a coronavirus similar to the one that causes COVID-19.


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