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12 Apr 2020, 8:54 am

Jimmym what do You think of plug-in air purifiers that claim to clean bacteria n viruses from the air?


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12 Apr 2020, 9:57 am

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Jimmym what do You think of plug-in air purifiers that claim to clean bacteria n viruses from the air?


I believe that a HEPA type air filter will remove viruses and bacteria from the air in a room size area.
I believe that a UVC type sanitizer will eliminate viruses by destroying their ability to infect a person.

I have been using the UVC air sanitizer for about 2 months solid now in our bedroom. The air is really fresh and when I wake up in the morning my lungs feel really clean and good. I described this type of UVC air sanitizer in the following: Practical Preparations for a Coronavirus Pandemic


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12 Apr 2020, 10:06 am

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I am going to venture to T&T which usually had a good stock of medical gloves and if they are in stock Im gonna donate them to Participation House. In my opinion PSWs being left no choice but to abandon a bunch of disabled vulnerable adults for lack of protective equipment is a disgrace for a city like this.....

where everyone and their poodle is walking about in gloves and medical grade masks..

N the govt had no issue delivering (without being asked) big box of many disposable isolation gowns ...gloves ...masks n goggles when we had a simple cold n not even confirmed Covid19 like those ppl!! !



I agree. It is better to be part of the solution than just close yourself in under great distress ready to explode with worry. I believe in action.

Within most cities, there are volunteers (seamstresses) that are fabricating PPE. They will generally turn the PPE that they fabricate into a group that then supplies the needs of the local hospital, nursing homes, etc. So if you can figure out who this distribution group is, you can make them aware of the needs Participation House’s Butternut Lane site. These local distributors may not even be aware of their needs but should you pass them onto that group, I suspect they will be more than willing to lend a helping hand.

If you are up and about remember to take adequate precautions to prevent from becoming infected.


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12 Apr 2020, 12:05 pm

Doctors, pols urge earlier use of ‘miracle’ coronavirus drug cocktail

For Charles Vavruska, it was nothing short of a miracle cure.

Days after the 53-year-old City Council staffer arrived at New York Presbyterian-Queens hospital barely able to breathe and tested positive for COVID-19, doctors started him on the controversial drug cocktail of hydroxychloroquine, an anti-malarial, and azithromycin, an antibiotic.

Although Vavruska said he felt almost immediately better, he wishes the urgent-care doctor he went to see in the early days of his flu-like symptoms in mid-March could have prescribed a similar treatment before he grew progressively worse and ended up in a hospital room, hooked up to an oxygen tank and fighting for his life.

It’s an opinion shared by President Donald Trump and a growing cadre of physicians and some infectious diseases experts who believe that an effective way to control the spiraling pandemic is to prescribe the anti-malarial at the first sign of symptoms even though it has not gone through the requisite number of clinical trials.

Last week, the American Society of Thoracic Surgeons issued guidelines for doctors to use the anti-malarial if they are in the advanced stages of the coronavirus, but some physicians say that it needs to be administered long before that.


https://nypost.com/2020/04/11/doctors-p ... -cocktail/


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12 Apr 2020, 12:47 pm

One of the ongoing economic effects:

Colleges nationwide are bleeding money. Some might not make it.

As colleges across the country have sent students home and moved classes online due to COVID-19, many institutions find themselves in a tough spot: how to appease distraught students while remaining afloat financially.

On Tuesday, the Wisconsin State Journal reported that because of the pandemic, the University of Wisconsin-Madison expects to lose $100 million by June, a loss of about 3.2 percent of UW-Madison’s $3 billion budget. The figure includes reimbursements given to students for room and board after the school closed its campus, hired professional cleaners, and purchased the technology needed for distance learning.

“Financially, many colleges have been struggling, facing a perfect storm which is going to be even more difficult now"
In Wisconsin's neighboring state, the University of Minnesota stands to lose an estimated $315 million from its $3.8 billion budget, according to the Associated Press. The financial losses stretch to universities in all parts of the country, as the University of California-Berkeley said it will lose $100 million, at least. Nearby San Jose State University in California stands to lose an estimated $16 million by the end of May. And Clemson University in South Carolina is estimated to lose about $20 million from the coronavirus pandemic, according to the Greenville News. Meanwhile, the University of Maine lost $12.8 million after it issued refunds to students for unused room and board.


https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=14690


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12 Apr 2020, 12:50 pm

Darmok wrote:
Doctors, pols urge earlier use of ‘miracle’ coronavirus drug cocktail

For Charles Vavruska, it was nothing short of a miracle cure.

Days after the 53-year-old City Council staffer arrived at New York Presbyterian-Queens hospital barely able to breathe and tested positive for COVID-19, doctors started him on the controversial drug cocktail of hydroxychloroquine, an anti-malarial, and azithromycin, an antibiotic.

Although Vavruska said he felt almost immediately better, he wishes the urgent-care doctor he went to see in the early days of his flu-like symptoms in mid-March could have prescribed a similar treatment before he grew progressively worse and ended up in a hospital room, hooked up to an oxygen tank and fighting for his life.

It’s an opinion shared by President Donald Trump and a growing cadre of physicians and some infectious diseases experts who believe that an effective way to control the spiraling pandemic is to prescribe the anti-malarial at the first sign of symptoms even though it has not gone through the requisite number of clinical trials.

Last week, the American Society of Thoracic Surgeons issued guidelines for doctors to use the anti-malarial if they are in the advanced stages of the coronavirus, but some physicians say that it needs to be administered long before that.


https://nypost.com/2020/04/11/doctors-p ... -cocktail/



That is what I hear too. It is extremely important to treat those infected early on and not just when they are admitted to the hospital and put onto a ventilator. When you are put on a ventilator you are at death's door and very little can bring you back at that point.

If you have to wait until you are admitted to the hospital before you are eligible for treatment and the government is deciding who will get admitted; then the government is de facto determining who lives and who dies, especially if the treatment option is determined to be a viable one in the future. The determination of using treatment options should really lie in the hands of the doctor and the patient. The government should not put up roadblocks to treatment options but rather offer advice and guidance.


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12 Apr 2020, 1:36 pm

I sure hope that continues to be an effective treatment and can be dispensed liberally.



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12 Apr 2020, 5:38 pm

Darmok wrote:
One of the ongoing economic effects:

Colleges nationwide are bleeding money. Some might not make it.

As colleges across the country have sent students home and moved classes online due to COVID-19, many institutions find themselves in a tough spot: how to appease distraught students while remaining afloat financially.

On Tuesday, the Wisconsin State Journal reported that because of the pandemic, the University of Wisconsin-Madison expects to lose $100 million by June, a loss of about 3.2 percent of UW-Madison’s $3 billion budget. The figure includes reimbursements given to students for room and board after the school closed its campus, hired professional cleaners, and purchased the technology needed for distance learning.

“Financially, many colleges have been struggling, facing a perfect storm which is going to be even more difficult now"
In Wisconsin's neighboring state, the University of Minnesota stands to lose an estimated $315 million from its $3.8 billion budget, according to the Associated Press. The financial losses stretch to universities in all parts of the country, as the University of California-Berkeley said it will lose $100 million, at least. Nearby San Jose State University in California stands to lose an estimated $16 million by the end of May. And Clemson University in South Carolina is estimated to lose about $20 million from the coronavirus pandemic, according to the Greenville News. Meanwhile, the University of Maine lost $12.8 million after it issued refunds to students for unused room and board.


https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=14690


The university that I work for is planning for huge financial losses in the next school year. Enrollment is way down compared to this time last year. Our department is stressing that we need to be efficient with our supplies as we may not get to order more until the budget is finalized. The administration is going through the departmental budgets and seeing what can be cut. My job could end up on the chopping block by the time everything is said and done.

The one positive thing that was said to me by my coworkers is that they would need to hire three people to do the job that I do. I have started my contingency planning just in case my job is gone though. There are some contacts outside of education that I have held onto that may pan out, so it may end up being a silver-lining issue overall.



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12 Apr 2020, 6:03 pm

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blooiejagwa wrote:
I am going to venture to T&T which usually had a good stock of medical gloves and if they are in stock Im gonna donate them to Participation House. In my opinion PSWs being left no choice but to abandon a bunch of disabled vulnerable adults for lack of protective equipment is a disgrace for a city like this.....

where everyone and their poodle is walking about in gloves and medical grade masks..

N the govt had no issue delivering (without being asked) big box of many disposable isolation gowns ...gloves ...masks n goggles when we had a simple cold n not even confirmed Covid19 like those ppl!! !



I agree. It is better to be part of the solution than just close yourself in under great distress ready to explode with worry. I believe in action.

Within most cities, there are volunteers (seamstresses) that are fabricating PPE. They will generally turn the PPE that they fabricate into a group that then supplies the needs of the local hospital, nursing homes, etc. So if you can figure out who this distribution group is, you can make them aware of the needs Participation House’s Butternut Lane site. These local distributors may not even be aware of their needs but should you pass them onto that group, I suspect they will be more than willing to lend a helping hand.

If you are up and about remember to take adequate precautions to prevent from becoming infected.


Thanks. You and your wife's and IsabellaLinton's donations of necessary stuff got me jealous of all that u guys managed to do by taking initiative.

It is HEPA filter which I vaguely remembered u talking about earlier so I purchased and you are right. It reminds me of the air in Isloo and Switzerland both.. That refreshed feeling...i want my dad to get one since he has asthma.

My brother is aggravated as he is made to take irrelevant courses and and he thinks uni is a big scam and he regrets it. He. Said he could be using his time to search fr jobs and work but it consumes all his time.

But actually it is lucky that with the pandemic he actually has something to work on at home (since uni n colleges are online now) ..

Who knows if the job would have fired him because of this pandemic... Then he would be even more annoyed to stay home without anything to do not even studying.

At least now gets to work on something still.


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12 Apr 2020, 6:06 pm

EzraS wrote:
Pepe wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Washington State has had its curve flattened for at least a week. They had the first nationwide death.

I feel like the West will have restrictions eased earlier than in the East.


Trump suggested some restrictions, in some areas(?), might be removed by Easter.
I said at the time that Trump would reconsider that if things were still bad.

Guess what?
He reconsidered.

If everyone was as smart as me,
I wouldn't be special. :mrgreen:


Your smartness is sublime.

I feel dumber when reading your posts.


Despair not.
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Your neocortex is well developed and will continue to mature for at least another 6 years.

There will come a time where the "grasshopper" surpasses the "master". 8)



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12 Apr 2020, 6:10 pm

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The head of the World Health Organization, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, is under fire for his pathetic response to the coronavirus. An online petition calling for the resignation of the embattled leader of the World Health Organization neared 1 million signatures early Sunday. I looked at the petition and was about to sign it, but rather than a legitimate petition, it appeared to me that your name would be added to the petition only if you agreed to donate money. So it was a money maker masked as a legitimate petition.


He is a stooge of the ccp.
Pity about the petition.



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12 Apr 2020, 6:20 pm

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I and the person walking me have not had any issues. And there have been plenty of police cars that have gone by. I was on about an hour long walk yesterday. There were few other pedestrians.

I was told by the someone who went shopping yesterday, that about 3 out of 10 people were wearing masks in the stores. All register stations in all the stores now have a temporary plexiglas barrier between the clerk and customers. Which is something that should have been implemented much earlier on in my opinion.

There were no lines at my store today.Not very many people out.
I wore a mask but most people didn’t.They have the sneeze guards up and I agree those should always have been in place.
The toilet paper isle was still bare.No disinfectant.The Little Debbies and ice cream were wiped out. 8O
I predict many will emerge from quarantine with diabetes.
Plenty of fresh veg,fruit,meat and eggs.Store is selling eggs at their price.Only rationing was flour, meal and baking powder.No yeast in stock.
Also no tourists. :lol:
No Easter egg hunting or Church events.


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12 Apr 2020, 6:20 pm

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The novel coronavirus that has forced "shelter in place" orders throughout much of the U.S. might spread as far as 13 feet in the air, twice the distance people are currently advised to maintain from each other to avoid infection, according to an early release of a study by Chinese researchers.


I throw all my clothing in the wash when I get home, disinfect my shoes, and have a thorough shower.
Better to err on the side of safety.

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So I almost appears to me that the individuals that discounted the wearing of face mask used the symptoms of bacterial pneumonia instead of the symptoms of viral pneumonia. Those recommendations were wrong. The best approach to dealing with this coronavirus is to wear mask such as N95 that filter out these small viral particles and combine with indoor humidification that when absorbed by the dried particles add weight to the particles and drive these particles to the ground quickly to limit their spread.


Even a bandana would mitigate the possibility of infection if exposure is short.

But as I keep on saying, people need to embrace personal responsibility and reduce their own mucus contamination on surfaces.



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12 Apr 2020, 6:23 pm

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jimmy m wrote:
The head of the World Health Organization, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, is under fire for his pathetic response to the coronavirus. An online petition calling for the resignation of the embattled leader of the World Health Organization neared 1 million signatures early Sunday. I looked at the petition and was about to sign it, but rather than a legitimate petition, it appeared to me that your name would be added to the petition only if you agreed to donate money. So it was a money maker masked as a legitimate petition.


He is a stooge of the ccp.
Pity about the petition.


His name is funny. It is almost as funny as that Napoleon Einstein.


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12 Apr 2020, 6:27 pm

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Jimmym what do You think of plug-in air purifiers that claim to clean bacteria n viruses from the air?


I believe that a HEPA type air filter will remove viruses and bacteria from the air in a room size area.
I believe that a UVC type sanitizer will eliminate viruses by destroying their ability to infect a person.

I have been using the UVC air sanitizer for about 2 months solid now in our bedroom. The air is really fresh and when I wake up in the morning my lungs feel really clean and good. I described this type of UVC air sanitizer in the following: Practical Preparations for a Coronavirus Pandemic


You have mentioned this some time ago.
As a result, I have 2 UV types you recommended.

As a side benefit,
I have been able to verify that I am not a virus.
Phew! :mrgreen:



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12 Apr 2020, 6:29 pm

LOL!


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