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12 Apr 2020, 10:27 pm

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The CIA Informed Trump that a pandemic was likely as far back as November 2019 so you can include him in the group of naysayers


Source?


You should have started this thread in November. It's all your fault.



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12 Apr 2020, 11:27 pm

NYU scientists: Largest U.S. study of COVID-19 finds obesity the single biggest factor in New York’s hospitalizations

Doctors at NYU Langone Health center conducted the largest study so far of U.S. hospital admissions for COVID-19, focused on New York City. They found obesity, along with age, was the biggest deciding factor in hospital admissions, which may suggest the role of hyper-inflammatory reactions that can happen in those with the disease.


https://www.zdnet.com/article/nyu-scien ... cal-cases/


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13 Apr 2020, 12:43 am

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Dr. Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, had himself relied on the Chinese disinformation to downplay COVID-19’s threat to America.

“This is not a major threat for the people in the United States, and this is not something the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about,” he told Newsmax as late as Jan. 21, when the virus began spreading on the West Coast.


I began this thread on January 22, long before the rest of the world began paying attention.


Yes you did. In January... you, eikonabridge, and a few others took this threat seriously.

Others laughed at the idea that it could become a pandemic. They aren't laughing now.


We scoffed at the idea of it being a plague that would infect 80% of the population kill many millions in a matter of weeks. That has not changed any.


As always, I had a balanced approach to the situation.
50% insightful brilliance.
50% humour. 8) :mrgreen:



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13 Apr 2020, 12:46 am

jimmy m wrote:
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The CIA Informed Trump that a pandemic was likely as far back as November 2019 so you can include him in the group of naysayers


Source?


He has one,
But it is fake news. <joke> :mrgreen:

It looks legit, but how can we little people know for sure? <sigh>



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13 Apr 2020, 12:50 am

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Something is bothering me. It is an anomaly, a very big anomaly.
We now know that COVID-19 is highly contagious. We also know that perhaps as much as 50% of those that become infected are asymptomatic (do not show symptoms).

Beijing, China is the world's most populous capital city, with over 21 million residents. The city only had 587 confirmed cases and 8 deaths.

16.9% of the population in Beijing is over age 60

The numbers just don't add up. It defies logic.


We can only guess at the real brutality of the ccp.

I read somewhere that russians may have infected Shanghai (accidentally).
The ccp may have a problem there now.

But fear not.
We will be the last to know. :mrgreen:

Edit:
lol.
I read it in your article. :mrgreen:

Darmok wrote:
jimmy m wrote:
Darmok wrote:
Dr. Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, had himself relied on the Chinese disinformation to downplay COVID-19’s threat to America.

“This is not a major threat for the people in the United States, and this is not something the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about,” he told Newsmax as late as Jan. 21, when the virus began spreading on the West Coast.

I began this thread on January 22, long before the rest of the world began paying attention.

Jimmy for Surgeon General! :thumright:


I'm for it.

<underbreath>
If he is silly enough to take it. 8O



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13 Apr 2020, 3:17 am

jimmy m wrote:
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The CIA Informed Trump that a pandemic was likely as far back as November 2019 so you can include him in the group of naysayers


Source?

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/intelli ... d=70031273
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattperez/ ... cc2047a1eb

There's also NBC and a few other "reliable" sources but you get the drift



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13 Apr 2020, 5:14 am

The Fed and others are talking about 12-18 months of lockdown and shutdowns. Hopefully that is just more hyperbole like 240 thousand Americans will die from the virus by the end of April. But maybe not. Maybe I will end up having to kiss my future goodbye. My dad is still working because his job is considered essential. But I figure eventually they will have to shut down because no money will be coming in. Yep looks like a really bleak future lies ahead. I don't feel fearful at all any longer. That has been replaced with a feeling of hopelessness.



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13 Apr 2020, 5:17 am

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Gas is $1.15 in south Missouri .
They say it will keep dropping.


That probably means the oil companies are going to go out of business like many wanted.



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13 Apr 2020, 5:28 am

I've been watching this for a few weeks now, the idea that once we recover we have immunity, but there seems to be more reports of reactivation of the virus in recovered patients as opposed to being reinfected. Any thoughts? Would like to understand this better.
Recovered coronavirus patients test positive again in blow to immunity hopes

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South Korean officials said the virus may have been 'reactivated', rather than the patients being re-infected.
South Korea reported on Friday that 91 recovered coronavirus patients have tested positive for the disease again, raising questions over health experts' understanding of the pandemic
...Some of the patients testing positive again showed no symptoms, while others were suffering from fevers and respiratory issues, according to the Financial Times



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13 Apr 2020, 5:48 am

In general, reinfection is considered to be rare.

People who are recovered are being asked to donate blood and plasma.

The antibodies test will address this issue. This will prove that a person has recovered, and has not been reinfected.



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13 Apr 2020, 5:52 am

jimmy m wrote:
Something is bothering me. It is an anomaly, a very big anomaly.
We now know that COVID-19 is highly contagious. We also know that perhaps as much as 50% of those that become infected are asymptomatic (do not show symptoms).

Beijing, China is the world's most populous capital city, with over 21 million residents. The city only had 587 confirmed cases and 8 deaths.

16.9% of the population in Beijing is over age 60

The numbers just don't add up. It defies logic.


8 deaths is nothing. Even here in Ontario we have had more. I guess they lied?


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13 Apr 2020, 5:56 am

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Gas is $1.15 in south Missouri .
They say it will keep dropping.


That probably means the oil companies are going to go out of business like many wanted.


I doubt the mother frackers, errr, I mean oil frackers will go out of business.
From memory, when OPEC tried it years ago, the frackers simply shut up shop for I time.
The cost is much less to shut down and reopen, for the fracking industry.



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13 Apr 2020, 6:02 am

blooiejagwa wrote:
jimmy m wrote:
Something is bothering me. It is an anomaly, a very big anomaly.
We now know that COVID-19 is highly contagious. We also know that perhaps as much as 50% of those that become infected are asymptomatic (do not show symptoms).

Beijing, China is the world's most populous capital city, with over 21 million residents. The city only had 587 confirmed cases and 8 deaths.

16.9% of the population in Beijing is over age 60

The numbers just don't add up. It defies logic.


8 deaths is nothing. Even here in Ontario we have had more. I guess they lied?


Ya think? 8O :mrgreen:

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13 Apr 2020, 6:07 am

274 deaths related to Covid19 now in this province from confirmed cases.

It was between 2-4 deaths around 22nd March.

I am happy they do have measures in place to help people but how long can this continue?


Also I dont understand how participation house, which ought to be among the organizations listed below, didn't have personal protective equipment,

so much so that about 12 of the disabled adults there got it and 2 staff members and all PSWs fled from lack pf protective equipment!?!

unless they were managing the $$$ poorly or didnt receive it or ...?
I know my elder was said by different professionals tht he would end up in one of those homes when he becomes an adult...

but XH was vehemently angry at the thought m said no way when I told him what they said.
Now I know why. Thank God fr his family having that big house and whatnot. Iys really scary to think about... Imagine being a disabled adult in a group home but. Not having psw to hekp u do basic things?!?!? How are they managing???


'We are providing $100 million to national, regional, and local organizations across Canada to:

Purchase, transport and distribute food and other basic necessities

hire temporary help to fill volunteer shortages
implement safety measures, such as the

purchase of personal protective equipment, to reduce the spread of COVID-19 among volunteers and clients.

These organizations – including but not limited to Food Banks Canada, Salvation Army, Second Harvest, Community Food Centres Canada, and Breakfast Club of Canada – will work with partners to meet the urgent food needs of Canadians.'


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13 Apr 2020, 6:11 am

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The Fed and others are talking about 12-18 months of lockdown and shutdowns. Hopefully that is just more hyperbole like 240 thousand Americans will die from the virus by the end of April.


I have been staying shtum about this,
But I am convinced the hyperbole here in Oz is just that.

The government says that they are planning on a 6 month period to fight the virus.
I am convinced they are just presenting a tough front, with the intention of easing off sooner rather than later.
I'll bet your left testicle on that. :mrgreen:

Hold me to account in 2 month's time.
If I am correct, ewez won't hear the end of my big-noting myself. :mrgreen:



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13 Apr 2020, 6:16 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
In general, reinfection is considered to be rare.

People who are recovered are being asked to donate blood and plasma.

The antibodies test will address this issue. This will prove that a person has recovered, and has not been reinfected.


I wonder whether Sophie Gregoire Trudeau donated after she had recovered''''


My cousin who is a doctor told me the initiative to use plasma treatment fr Covid19 was being practiced in their country before most first world countries. I cannot find a aource for that so I guess she is speaking from experience?? I guess she is proud of how a third world country is handling things.


Imran Khan gathered a team of young volunteers called the Corona Tiger Force ..now in the hundreds of thousands... to do all the stuff like distribute equipment food etc..

People created drive thru testing facilities in the major cities from donations purely


My dad said everything they are doing is mainly from people donating.

I think it's crucial in every country for richer ppl to donate to efforts if Govt doesnt have enough

My sister's sister in law who is in her 20s became disabled and paralyzed from a drunk driver a while ago ... I wonder whether she gets any supports now or if everything has been diverted to this and it is just up to family to do it?


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