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14 Apr 2020, 11:49 pm

Are you guys being sarcastic or do you really think that we’re going to be social distancing for the next 2 years bc of what that article says?


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15 Apr 2020, 12:19 am

CubsBullsBears wrote:
Are you guys being sarcastic or do you really think that we’re going to be social distancing for the next 2 years bc of what that article says?


Both on my part.

However I think they will come to realize the actual number of cases vs the actual number of deaths, means this virus has a very low overall mortality rate.

Then again some will want to keep everything shutdown until the virus is completely eradicated regardless of that because they have it's like the spanish flu and bubonic plague stuck in their heads.



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15 Apr 2020, 12:43 am

The 2 yr extension is contingent on no vaccine but that's an unlikely scenario (we hope)



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15 Apr 2020, 2:40 am

I feel most things will be open throughout the world by June 1st.



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15 Apr 2020, 2:55 am

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I feel most things will be open throughout the world by June 1st.


I'd be surprised if they aren't.



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15 Apr 2020, 3:51 am

By June 1st people will probably be so conditioned, that whatever is allowed to reopen, will hardly get any business.



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15 Apr 2020, 3:58 am

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By June 1st people will probably be so conditioned, that whatever is allowed to reopen, will hardly get any business.


That is something to think about.
I won't be seeing life the same way ever again.

But then, I'm a rational aspie.
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15 Apr 2020, 4:12 am

China’s COVID-19 figures are not arithmetically sensible. The Communist Party has deliberately made estimation difficult, but, outside of Wuhan city and Hubei province, cases are low by a factor of 100 or more. In late January, Chinese media provided information about migrant outflow from Wuhan before quarantine. Using a lower number than theirs, then conservative figures for migrants’ infection rate and time in circulation before national lockdown, generates an estimate of 2.9 million cases.

— Derek Scissors, resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute

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15 Apr 2020, 4:14 am

NYC death toll jumps by 3,700 after uncounted fatalities are added

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New York City’s official coronavirus death toll has soared past 10,000, after thousands of deaths that previously went uncounted were added to the city’s statistics.

In a new count released Tuesday, 3,778 more deaths were added to the rolls — driving up the previously recorded total of 6,589 by more than half. Now, the city records 10,367 deaths related to the virus.

Previously, the city had not counted people who died at home without getting tested for the coronavirus, or who died in nursing homes or at hospitals, but did not have a confirmed positive test result. Mayor Bill de Blasio admitted last week that the true number of deaths was far higher than the official tally, and said the city would start including presumed coronavirus cases in its data.

The latest statistics include probable coronavirus deaths through Monday. And even the new statistics may understate the death toll. Probable deaths were recorded as people who did not have a positive lab test for Covid-19, but did have Covid-19 or something similar listed as the cause of death on their death certificate.

The city's death toll has soared so high that morgues have filled, funeral homes have been overwhelmed and burials of unclaimed remains on Hart Island have surged. As of Monday evening, the city tallied 107,263 cases of the coronavirus, with many more undetected because of lack of testing.

People whose death certificates don’t mention the virus still are not counted. From March 11 through April 13, 8,184 city residents died of causes not classified as confirmed or probable coronavirus.

Among probable coronavirus deaths, 60 percent happened in hospitals, 22 percent in the victim's home and 18 percent in nursing homes or long-term care facilities. Brooklyn residents represented the most probable deaths, followed by Queens and the Bronx.


China manipulates the statistics to deflate death count, New York manipulates the statistics to inflate the death count. Interesting.


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15 Apr 2020, 4:29 am

Sounds like most every death in NY is being called a virus death.



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15 Apr 2020, 5:34 am

No matter what, there are still excess deaths in NYC.



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15 Apr 2020, 5:38 am

cyberdad wrote:
Magna wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
CubsBullsBears wrote:


Spare a thought for school students who will lose 2 yrs from their education


Remote learning?




I think disadvantaged students without good internet connection and children with developmental delays will suffer the most from remote learning. Younger children need play/social interaction with friends for normal development.


Yup. The learning is almost nil its token stuff.. I was so excited but only 1 actual lesson in all these weeks ..even that seems like a token 'social story' only...
for a kid who loves learning and therapy both and is eager to sit and look at whatever is put up by them..which is as close to zero as it can be so far... Without actually being zero.. Link to a song about kindness. Social story about staying. in.. Whoop de doo


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15 Apr 2020, 5:48 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:
China manipulates the statistics to deflate death count, New York manipulates the statistics to inflate the death count. Interesting.


The truth invariably come out, in western societies.
Whistle-bowers in china go "missing".
I know which society I have more faith in. :wink:



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15 Apr 2020, 6:31 am

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China must pay for COVID-19, says former Liberal leader
A former Liberal Party leader has launched an extraordinary attack on China over the coronavirus pandemic.



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15 Apr 2020, 7:11 am

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China must pay for COVID-19, says former Liberal leader
A former Liberal Party leader has launched an extraordinary attack on China over the coronavirus pandemic.


That's rather vague.



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15 Apr 2020, 7:23 am

Pepe wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
China manipulates the statistics to deflate death count, New York manipulates the statistics to inflate the death count. Interesting.


The truth invariably come out, in western societies.
Whistle-bowers in china go "missing".
I know which society I have more faith in. :wink:


Imagine bowing to a whistle.


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