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29 Aug 2010, 11:41 pm

Most antidepressants help greatly to diminish sex drive and most Aspies take them already.



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29 Aug 2010, 11:52 pm

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Most antidepressants help greatly to diminish sex drive and most Aspies take them already.
This is a really good point. It's mentioned in the third paragraph as the first possible side effect in mine, though it hasn't happened with me.



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31 Aug 2010, 4:36 pm

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Say "Hi I like you" to a girl with higher social status than yourself and either get sprayed with something or get a painful kick somewhere.


As much as I don't usually agree with Lonermutant's post, I agree somewhat with the sarcastic message behind this post (it's not like women would kick men on sight) : Yes, most women don't like to be liked by men with lower status. That's true.



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01 Sep 2010, 1:05 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Lonermutant wrote:
Say "Hi I like you" to a girl with higher social status than yourself and either get sprayed with something or get a painful kick somewhere.


As much as I don't usually agree with Lonermutant's post, I agree somewhat with the sarcastic message behind this post (it's not like women would kick men on sight) : Yes, most women don't like to be liked by men with lower status. That's true.
most women don't think in terms of status, actually.

note: if someone who i had never seen before walked up to me and said 'hi i like you' i would be seriously freaked out. that would be weird. that would be so incredibly strange that it would definitely be a turn-off. if it was preceded by a legitimate conversation, i would not freak out.

Lonermutant's posts tend to highlight his opinion that all women are horrible creatures. that likely came across in his interactions with women of supposedly higher status, and most likely led to the rejection. i am making an assumption that this has actually happened to him, but if it didn't... then he is basing his comments on absolutely nothing of any value.


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01 Sep 2010, 1:10 pm

Exactly, Hyperlexian.



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01 Sep 2010, 2:50 pm

I'm for it for the concept. If they are impulsively doing indecent things like touching themselves in public or worse then I believe they should have their testosterone lowered. Perhaps they could find a non-cancerous drug that does it?



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07 Sep 2010, 4:41 pm

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This is rather startling, even for the anti-vaccination crowd this goes pretty far. Don't studies like this, especially if they involve children, have to approved by the FDA and/or DEA? I really would question the ethics of anyone crazy enough to give that substance to child.

Yes a drug has to be shown to be safe and effective, the maker's of Botox just got hit with a $600 million settlement for allowing Botox to be marketed for off-lable uses; I can't imagine Lupron being studied for the uses indicated in the article let alone being approved!


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09 Sep 2010, 11:13 am

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I assume this is about kids who are severe because they don't have the cognitive ability to understand it's innaproppiate to touch themselves wrong in public.


Exactly! Most news outlets talk about SEVERE autism. I'm sure that drug is for the pants-crapping, crash-helmet-wearing folks who might try to jerk off in public.



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09 Sep 2010, 2:29 pm

FireMinstrel wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
I assume this is about kids who are severe because they don't have the cognitive ability to understand it's innaproppiate to touch themselves wrong in public.


Exactly! Most news outlets talk about SEVERE autism. I'm sure that drug is for the pants-crapping, crash-helmet-wearing folks who might try to jerk off in public.


It doesn't matter. There is no proof that hormones have anything to do with autism and the drug they're using is not approved for children.



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11 Sep 2010, 5:00 pm

How much does it cost for a doctor to perform a neutering surgery? Cause I would do it for free but I'm not sure if I can survive.



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10 Jan 2013, 3:50 am

the though of it frightens me.



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10 Jan 2013, 5:23 am

I dont get it. Why is it a problem, that a teenager acts normal and wants sex, and why should he get medical abused, just because women normally want relationships with men that have higerh social status. How should that be related and why should boys get medicinal abused with drugs, because many women are interested in men with higehr social status?

I dont want to offend anyone, i really just dont get it. When I was a teenager i also had a very strong sexual interest, but i dont see how anyone got hurted because of that? And why should i get drugged and my sexual drive lobotomized by a doctor?

Ok, if you run around raping every cat you see because you are so horny, i understand the problem. But running around and asking people if they like to have sex with you....as far as i can tell from my experiences from going out on Saturday, thats whats that "going out" thing is all about for NTs. They just dont say so. ^^


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I think that girls with Asperger are more mature, so they have a chance of having a boyfriend at age 15 like nt girls, while boys with Asperger don't reach maturity until they are past 20. Therefor they never learn the social rules that can get them a girlfriend and therefor relationships for most men with Asperger are about quick sexual gratification only.


What use do i have of having a boyfriend with 15, if i only have misadvantages of it. So I did, as my classmates did because i was horny, and so i copied my classfriends making a relationship with a boy, so i was "socially allowed" to have sex. So the advantage of that relationship was sex, the misadvantage of the relationship was having an relationship, and the expectations of me running around, wanting to spend every second I have with my boyfriend, loving to phone from one second to the other, starting to paint my face and all that s**t... I never wanted to have more social contact then 1-2 days a week, i hated telephoning since i was born and the last thing on earth i was interested was wasting my time i need to relax, to do such sh***y things like painting myself and masking myself and all that other s**t to do something i also dont wanna do, wasting my time for meeting a horde of NT teenagers to spend the evening with them, hiding how bored I am and pushing down my intentions to leave the situations because of getting me more and more tired.

After my first tries of copying this NT relationship system i ended it after having an complete weird NT boyfriend who i couldnt understand at all and who gave me the rest, and decided that I have absolutely no benefit from that relationship stuff and have been totally happy with normal one night stands or "having fun" with normal friends for years, and never regreted this desicion. So "by accident" i met a man years after that, who pushed me to try it again and i am very happy about it now, but it doesnt change that accepting, that i only wanted to have sex as a teenager, was just the right thing to do.

While my body was growing up my "social mind" was still some years earlier. So my body wanted to have sex, and my mind wanted to play instead wasting my time for relations ship stuff. I was not dumb, but if you ask an 8 year old genius if he wants to spend the evening dating a girl or playing Mario Cart, Mario Cart will win and dating a girl is boring. The wish to meet girls will come from himself someday, but as long as its not there, the best thing you can do is accept it. So i accepted, that I have no need in meeting boys for social causes, but still had physical needs. So if there was a problem with that, i had to think about it, how to solve it. But none of the "affected persons i shared temporarily my sexual interests" seemed to be unhappy, i was not unhappy. Just some non affected person were unhappy about it. So as far as they forced themself to be affected by my behavior, why should I care about problems people want to create themselfs? If they are disturbed, by disturbing themself about my behaviour they are free to stop disturbing themself about things they are not affected with. If they want to disturb themself, its a free land, but i do not take responsibility for something people to do themselfs.



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10 Jan 2013, 8:33 am

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For example comparing the former apartheid regime in South Africa to Nazi Germany would not fall under Godwin


I think that's debatable. The Apartheid regime was pretty bloody awful and certainly virulently racist but it wasn't quite as brutal as Nazism was. There was never a call for the wholesale killing of blacks and other people. There was brutal repression and a racist system of laws that privileged whites and discriminated against blacks, but it's not the same thing. Some Afrikaner groups did support the Nazis during World War II though, mostly out of hatred for the British.



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10 Jan 2013, 11:57 am

i can't believe someone would want to use castration for all autistics! :x besides, many get married anyway.



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10 Jan 2013, 12:47 pm

My sterilization nightmare is starting to come true. 8O But only a little.


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10 Jan 2013, 1:12 pm

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Also, Marco had discovered sex and sometimes touched himself inappropriately in public, a common problem among those with autism.

"The kids don't understand. They have impulses. It's what happens when you have high testosterone," Badillo said.

The family put Marco on Lupron about six weeks ago. He gets two injections a month at a dosage larger than used on adult cancer patients, plus a small daily shot.


I've never met an autistic person who randomly jerked it in public - besides most "normal" 18-year-olds have long since "discovered sex," but we aren't exactly trying to "chemically castrate" them.

I also do not believe it is wise to give an 18-year-old such a high dose of any type of drug, especially something that disrupts hormones and carries the additional risks of bone damage and heart problems. Then again, I'm not a medical expert, so my opinion simply does not matter.