Accoring to PETA apergers is caused by meat...

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11 Dec 2010, 3:44 pm

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A lot of veggies I met look like anaemic waifs. I think I'll stick with being an omnivore and eat a balanced diet.
PETA are weirdos, they mean well but their members ruin it for them. Some things I've read make sense, like being against animal circuses and that. But most of the time they just take it to ridiculous extremes. It seems you can't swat a fly without them bawwwwing over it. And what amuses me is how they make animals out to be sweet, innocent flowers that are perfect in every way and humans (yeah I know we're animals but I'm not going into pedant mode just now) are all evil and bad because *GASP* we eat animals and all that stuff. But fail to realise the "animal" world is pretty brutal, for example more capuchin monkeys are killed by each other than by any predator. And we are part of that world as well, so I shall enjoy my sausages guilt free thankyouverymuch.


Well, I can tell you I dont look like an anaemic waif. I am quite plump. And, I dont know much about Peta but that image is not what the average vegetarian/vegan is like. Yes the animal world is pretty brutal, in fact the entire world is. But it is nice to reduce the brutality in any way that you can. But I guess a few years ago I was a full omnivore myself, so I see your point of view.


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12 Dec 2010, 2:49 am

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Thats strange...my son decided to become vegetarian a few years ago... he has Aspergers.....if anything his anxiety has increased and he is less healthy than before...this is rubbish!


He may not be getting enough b vitamins--especially B6 and B12--and depending on his age, he may not be getting enough fat. Teens and young men need more fat than older men. You may want to suggest he takes B vitamin supplements and Flax seed oil supplements. Also, people on the spectrum often have allergies, so if he's eating foods he's allergic to--soy, tree nuts, wheat, peanuts are common ones--that could be making his health a lot worse. I have an allergy doctor check him out. Also have him checked for anemia.

I can't function without a high protein diet with the right balance of fats and I have several allergies to vegetable proteins, including soy, corn, tree nuts, so I have to eat meat. I take B vitamins to make sure i get enough, plus flax see oil 2 or 3 times a day with meals. I also need lots of fruits and veggies, with a small amount of diary. The one food group I can live easily without is grains, including breads and pasta, I just don't digest them well and they wreak havoc on my blood sugar levels. They are tasty though. But I can live without them.



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12 Dec 2010, 2:58 am

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Does PETA know that Hitler - who was vegetarian - is suspected to be aspie ?
Hitler was not a vegetarian.


He wasn't a Aspie either. Why do I keep seeing that nonsense around WP? How many Aspies do you know decide, as revenge against the world not appreciating your talents as an artist, decide to anoint themselves leader of a political movement, send troops of weak-minded follower out to bully/brutalize others and take over their countries? Yeah, exactly. NONE. We get the blow off by our art teacher, what do we do? We go whine about on WP but we don''t go try to take over the world and gather drunken mobs of Brownshirts around us. That he didn't like to draw people in his art, that's not exclusive to Asperger's or autism--he could have any one of several personality disorders or be on the schizophrenia spectrum. Or he could have just sucked really bad at drawing people. But you can't take one or two Aspie-ish quirks and then ignore all the traits that would negate Asperger's. And Hitler's need to have excessive power and his craving for respect from society are far more defining of him than not being able to draw humans in his artwork.

Jesus, I swear,, people here either are very ignorant about Asperger's and they just don't use their heads.



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12 Dec 2010, 4:47 am

I personnaly don't think he's autistic.
I wrote "SUSPECTED", and only because there is a kind of (wrong) collectif belief that he was autistic.


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12 Dec 2010, 5:30 pm

zen_mistress wrote:
MONKEY wrote:
A lot of veggies I met look like anaemic waifs. I think I'll stick with being an omnivore and eat a balanced diet.
PETA are weirdos, they mean well but their members ruin it for them. Some things I've read make sense, like being against animal circuses and that. But most of the time they just take it to ridiculous extremes. It seems you can't swat a fly without them bawwwwing over it. And what amuses me is how they make animals out to be sweet, innocent flowers that are perfect in every way and humans (yeah I know we're animals but I'm not going into pedant mode just now) are all evil and bad because *GASP* we eat animals and all that stuff. But fail to realise the "animal" world is pretty brutal, for example more capuchin monkeys are killed by each other than by any predator. And we are part of that world as well, so I shall enjoy my sausages guilt free thankyouverymuch.


Well, I can tell you I dont look like an anaemic waif. I am quite plump. And, I dont know much about Peta but that image is not what the average vegetarian/vegan is like. Yes the animal world is pretty brutal, in fact the entire world is. But it is nice to reduce the brutality in any way that you can. But I guess a few years ago I was a full omnivore myself, so I see your point of view.


Yeah, I know most veggies and vegans aren't like peta fanatics. Yet peta fanatics make the rest look like that.


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13 Dec 2010, 4:22 am

MONKEY wrote:
A lot of veggies I met look like anaemic waifs. I think I'll stick with being an omnivore and eat a balanced diet.
PETA are weirdos, they mean well but their members ruin it for them. Some things I've read make sense, like being against animal circuses and that. But most of the time they just take it to ridiculous extremes. It seems you can't swat a fly without them bawwwwing over it. And what amuses me is how they make animals out to be sweet, innocent flowers that are perfect in every way and humans (yeah I know we're animals but I'm not going into pedant mode just now) are all evil and bad because *GASP* we eat animals and all that stuff. But fail to realise the "animal" world is pretty brutal, for example more capuchin monkeys are killed by each other than by any predator. And we are part of that world as well, so I shall enjoy my sausages guilt free thankyouverymuch.


yep they need to ensure that every lion, tiger, bear, shark, cheetah, wolf, coyote, and every other preditor eats a completely vegitarian diet so they wont get autism :roll:


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13 Dec 2010, 7:26 am

I perfer the ALF personaly. They actualy get out and do things while Peta just keeps making a bad name for the animal rights movement. Peta has got a lot of lot of people to stop testing on animals and sometimes scare tactics are the ony way to get people to realise what is going on because most people don't usualy care but this campain is just more anti autism propoganda. They should say it causes things like obesity and high colestrol....which it does. I was vegan for a while and was still autistic, explain that one, Peta.


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13 Dec 2010, 8:12 am

Hitler was most likely a vegetarian, in fact the only ones that seem to deny it appear to be vegetarianism advocates that are too afraid of people using Reductio ad Hitlerum on them...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitl ... etarianism

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Author Rynn Berry, a vegetarian and animal rights advocate, maintains that although Hitler reduced the amount of meat in his diet, he never stopped eating meat completely for any significant length of time.


Just like any successful vegetarian.


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Vexcalibur wrote:
Hitler was most likely a vegetarian, in fact the only ones that seem to deny it appear to be vegetarianism advocates that are too afraid of people using Reductio ad Hitlerum on them...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitl ... etarianism

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Author Rynn Berry, a vegetarian and animal rights advocate, maintains that although Hitler reduced the amount of meat in his diet, he never stopped eating meat completely for any significant length of time.


Just like any successful vegetarian.


So just becuase Hitler did or didn't do something, we should not do it or do it. Hitler also owned a German Shepard named Blondie (that's where the 80's group got their name). Should we stop owning German Shepards or naming our pets Blondie? Should we stop owning dogs all together. Hitler also liked wolves. Should we stop being intrested in wolves? Hitler was from Germany? Should Germans give up thier heritage?

Ghandi was a vegetarian and there is evidence to support Jesus was as well.


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14 Dec 2010, 5:48 pm

This thread has officially been Godwinned.

Everyone can go home now.


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15 Dec 2010, 12:46 am

do you mean going home like in soylent green? i'm all for that.



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21 Dec 2010, 6:50 pm

Pssst....PETA is caused by meat-heads..... :P


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21 Dec 2010, 7:02 pm

MONKEY wrote:
A lot of veggies I met look like anaemic waifs. I think I'll stick with being an omnivore and eat a balanced diet.
You never met me then! I'm a big sturdy girly, with child bearing hips and a bust and bum to match. Apparently my pre Raphelite looks were once considered de rigour for the lady of the hour, and there are blokes who apparently still like the sturdily rotund woman of substance. But this one is definitively veggie. Anemic waif does not describe me, or most vegetarians I've met. I love food. :)



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21 Dec 2010, 7:05 pm

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There's a difference between animals as a special interest and animals as a main dish. Most Aspies love animals, but we are able to separate the animal from the meat or learn to love that which is not cooked. Personally I prefer the People Eating Tasty Animals route: when I see a cow, I dream of sirloin.
You do realise that's not as clever as it sounds, don't you? As a vegetarian I hear the "people eating tasty animals" comment regularly, usually by people who think it's terribly witty, and not at all a cliché. It's always better, if you can manage it, to devise your own wit, and not regurgitate some decade's old piece of banter.



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22 Dec 2010, 11:10 pm

Still don't believe me?

.... really ??

.... sure about that ??

http://petakillsanimals.com/

Read this and weep. For the record, humans are omnivors just like bears.

(who enjoy busting into our trash cans because they eat what we do)

A bear can catch a deer, eat venison, raid a beehive and then "borrow" strawberries from some hapless suburbanite all in one day. Of course, a human who consumed such items is labelled as some sort of right wing nut.

I mean, let's assume that some serial killer has broken into your home. As he raises up his gun, he says "I'm gonna kill you, but don't worry I won't EAT you." Would you honestly care about the eating part at that point in time? This is, of course, too difficult for PETA to understand.